Joan Rivers- Endoscopy Clinic?

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    Sep 06, 2014 12:25 AM GMT
    First off, if she was having elective 'minor throat surgery' as reported, why would she go to a Endoscopy clinic? We really don't know, maybe she was actually having an Endoscopy, GI or Colon and not throat surgery. Who was with Joan during this 'surgery'? Did she walk by herself? Endoscopy clinics do not perform vocal chord procedures icon_confused.gif

    Questions Swirl Around the Procedure That Led to Joan Rivers' Death
    https://www.yahoo.com/health/questions-swirl-around-the-procedure-that-led-to-joan-96717325252.html


    These type clinics do two things, ONLY
    Upper GI exam
    Colonoscopy exam

    I know because I had an upper GI done at one of these clinics http://www.airportendoscopy.com/, imagine a typical hospital ER room, that is exactly what these clinics are run like, in and you are out, its all they do, gurneys moved around like small traffic jams or a busy automatic car wash. Most concern I had was of course the Propofol anesthesia. I remember it well, it was cold, once they 'turned it on' I was a sleep within seconds. This was not elective as in Joan Rivers, my PCP sent me.

    Next thing I remember, is waking up in the 'recovery booth', when asked how long I was under, I was told about 25 minutes. What they found, I have a sliding hiatal hernia, means my stomach slides into my chest, through diaphragm, causing 'heart burn'. You had to have a designated driver, they wouldn't let you get the procedure done without one. I was totally spaced from the Propofol and needed help walking afterwards.

    The people getting colonoscopy were funny, you could hear them passing gas, 'farting', or gas being forced out of the stomach by pushing on it. Not really a fart, just air.


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    Sep 06, 2014 1:51 AM GMT
    The Illuminati and Obama had her killed because of her saying Obama is gay and Michelle Obama is a transsexual.

    I read an article saying so. icon_lol.gif

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/05/newest-rw-conspiracy-the-illuminati-and-the-obamas-killed-joan-rivers-video/
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    Sep 06, 2014 1:55 AM GMT
    Upper_Cdn saidThe Illuminati and Obama had her killed because of her saying Obama is gay and Michelle Obama is a transsexual.

    I read an article saying so. icon_lol.gif

    I presume read on a Right Wing site?

    Actually I thought it was an ENT clinic. Which is where one might go if having problems with the vocal cords. But now the loonies will have a field day.
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    Sep 06, 2014 2:42 AM GMT
    Upper_Cdn saidThe Illuminati and Obama had her killed because of her saying Obama is gay and Michelle Obama is a transsexual.

    I read an article saying so. icon_lol.gif

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/05/newest-rw-conspiracy-the-illuminati-and-the-obamas-killed-joan-rivers-video/


    A bit off topic?

    I was shocked when I saw this too, When Joan was asked if "we will ever see a gay president" she did say Obama already is, I dunno, is Michelle really Michael? Her shoulders are def more muscular than mine icon_wink.gif



    Ya know, there are stories when RuPaul first appeared, straight men everywhere thought he was really a she and actually had their own crushes on her. You do have to admit, hair and make up can do wonders

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    RuPaul explains to Joan!

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    Sep 06, 2014 4:39 AM GMT



    RuPaul explains to Joan!

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    Hey these two are really funny. First time I watched her show online

    More here......Looks like I will have to catch up

    http://www.youtube.com/user/inbedwithjoan/


    I will miss this funny person.

    Some days I work to much and it was someone like her who could make me smile icon_biggrin.gif
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    Sep 06, 2014 4:56 AM GMT
    She must've had an escort (someone with her, perhaps a personal assistant). I've always needed one when I had endoscopies and colonoscopies, even when I could walk home from the hospitals. They make you have one for liability purposes (the same reason they'll wheel you to the door but dump you at the exit).

    Are you suggesting that perhaps she had a neck lift?
  • AMoonHawk

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    Sep 06, 2014 6:03 AM GMT
    I thought the original cause was a heart attack ... you can have a heart attack any where ... she just happened to have it there ... she WAS 81 you know

    R.I.P. Joan

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    Sep 06, 2014 2:59 PM GMT
    RIDICULOUS presumptuous uninformed comments by the OP about the clinic - it is an outpatient surgery center if you read even the most cursory of information off their site - and she was having an endoscopic procedure on her vocal chords which without the endoscopic tools would have required invasive surgery. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Let's not turn the tragedy of an elderly woman succumbing to a statistic on a potentially dangerous albeit minor procedure into a right-wing or in this case left-wing plot! icon_confused.gif
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    Sep 06, 2014 5:07 PM GMT
    madsexy saidRIDICULOUS presumptuous uninformed comments by the OP about the clinic - it is an outpatient surgery center if you read even the most cursory of information off their site - and she was having an endoscopic procedure on her vocal chords which without the endoscopic tools would have required invasive surgery. icon_rolleyes.gif

    Let's not turn the tragedy of an elderly woman succumbing to a statistic on a potentially dangerous albeit minor procedure into a right-wing or in this case left-wing plot! icon_confused.gif



    NO, its not a surgery center, its an Endoscopy center, i wouldn't exactly call an endoscopy procedure, 'surgery', I had an upper GI performed, it was not surgery

    The information we are getting from main stream media is that Joan was having elective throat surgery, assuming her primary care physician did not send her to this clinic. Most of us just cant walk into a endoscopy clinic and ask for a upper GI or colonoscopy without a reason for doing so, unless Joan had $100,000 pocket change and no health insurance. Being 81, she was probably under the care of a primary who sent her there.

    I think the confusion here is whether or not, Endoscopy is classified as a surgical procedure, even though Propofol anesthetist is used, there is no 'surgery' per se, its seeing into the body, via mouth or anus, there is no cutting

    Joan Rivers: Propofol involved in Joan Rivers’ untimely death
    http://www.examiner.com/article/joan-rivers-propofol-involved-joan-rivers-untimely-death

    Staff at the Yorkville Endoscopy Clinic told officials that the 81-year-old comedienne stopped breathing just as they were putting her under anesthesia for the routine throat endoscopy procedure. However, an official from the NYC Medical Examiner’s office informed Fox News reporters that an initial examination was inconclusive and that further studies are needed to determine the exact cause of Joan Rivers’ death.

    ^This, I really don't believe, having the procedure done myself, the question is going to come down to anesthesia. Before they turn on the Propofol, you have a heart rate monitor already hooked up. Maybe they forgot the heart monitor before hand. You are wide awake before you are put under. The anesthesia is the last thing they do before 'entering the body' with the scope. Unless she was under a tremendous amount of stress, it should not have been stressful for her, shes had 100 of procedures done.


    Joan Rivers’ death may have been caused by a fatal dose of Propofol>>>>>>, this I believe

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    Sep 06, 2014 6:08 PM GMT
    She was diagnosed with osteoporosis in 2002 when she fell down some stairs and suffered broken bones. Afterward, she became an advocate for bone-density screenings for women.

    In 2013, a doctor found a spot on an X-ray of her lungs taken because of a persistent cough, Rivers reported on her reality show, “Joan & Melissa: Joan Knows Best?”

    “We’re just not going to be sad about this,” Rivers said during the episode. “We’re gonna do jokes and be up until we know. That’s how I deal with things.”
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    Sep 07, 2014 12:10 AM GMT
    Upper_Cdn saidThe Illuminati and Obama had her killed because of her saying Obama is gay and Michelle Obama is a transsexual.

    I read an article saying so. icon_lol.gif

    http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/09/05/newest-rw-conspiracy-the-illuminati-and-the-obamas-killed-joan-rivers-video/



    I know you're just joking but you'd be surprised the things that happen in this world when someone fucks up with the wrong crowd and their deaths are setup to look like accidents or natural death. At least no one is blaming the 322s and/or the Rothschilds directly...

    Her death was natural, it wasn't decided at the Bohemian Grove or Langley.
  • davfit

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    Sep 07, 2014 3:19 AM GMT
    She had previous Heart condtion as it turns out, she knew her time was limited ,81 is nothing if your Healthy and this is a Huge loss!! and she will be forever Missed.
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    Sep 08, 2014 12:04 AM GMT
    Clearly, this procedure should not have been done in an outpatient setting, on an 81-year old with preexisting medical conditions.

    That being said, Joan Rivers left her mark. When I was doing a lot of soul-searching in the 80s and I felt lost, I learned from her example. If you stumble, get right back up. Live out loud, be all of who you are. And fuck 'em if they can't take a joke!

    RIP Joan, I will always cherish your gifts.
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    Sep 10, 2014 4:09 AM GMT
    Wrong, the 'press' seems to be saying one thing, but a biopsy is normal during an endoscopy procedure especially the lining of the esophagus, cancer due to GERD, acid reflux, this press report is full of shit, incorrect medical facts

    •The lining of the esophagus, stomach, and upper duodenum is examined. Biopsies can be taken through the endoscope. Biopsies are tissue samples that are looked at under the microscope

    esophagogastroduodenoscopy
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmedhealth/PMH0004339/


    Joan Rivers’ Air Supply Cut Off From Unexpected Throat Biopsy (Report)
    https://tv.yahoo.com/news/joan-rivers-air-supply-cut-off-unexpected-throat-022500055.html

    The procedure is one that should not be conducted outside of a hospital, according to medical experts who spoke with the New York Daily News
    The biopsy caused the star's vocal cords to seize, known as laryngospasm The medical source told the paper that had this procedure been done in a hospital, Rivers may have survived.


    And from WebMD
    http://www.webmd.com/heartburn-gerd/guide/laryngospasm-causes-symptoms-and-treatments

    Laryngospasm may also be a complication of surgery. Anesthesia used during the surgery can irritate the vocal cords, especially in children. Laryngospasm caused by anesthesia can be life-threatening


    I call BS, conflicting medical facts
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    Sep 10, 2014 4:36 AM GMT

    Didn't Joan just perform a nightclub act hours before her procedure? Maybe she ate something or drank alcohol before hand when she wasn't suppose to? Specific instructions are as follows, maybe she actually vomited during the procedure and choked to death that way? One MUST follow these instructions

    How to Prepare for the Test
    You will not be able to eat anything for 6 to 12 hours before the test. Follow instructions about stopping aspirin and other blood-thinning medicines before the test.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 10, 2014 5:02 AM GMT
    She went discount procedure shopping.