Homo supporter with homo son Sen. Portman - R for POTUS in 2016?

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    Sep 06, 2014 3:50 PM GMT
    Best overall compromise?

    http://www.columbusunderground.com/a-portman-2016-campaign-could-signal-national-progress-for-gay-rights-jb1
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    Sep 07, 2014 8:48 AM GMT
    Honestly, what do you care? You seem to revel in throwing around disparaging words like 'homo', expressing your support for prominent anti-gay politicians (Santorum) and anti-gay causes (Chick Fil A) and then you get on your high horse when anyone suggests you may not have the interests of gay people at heart.
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    Sep 07, 2014 12:25 PM GMT
    And to put things into political perspective, if Eric Cantor can't win against a fellow Republican due to the single issue of immigration reform, in which Cantor expressed interest in compromise, there is no way Portman can do the same on gay rights. And then there's Romney, who lost by 5%, largely due to conservatives not voting for him because of his Mormon religion.

    Portman cannot win as a Republican and it will be interesting to see how he competes against the likes of Rick Santorum.
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    Sep 07, 2014 12:31 PM GMT
    Taken from the article's comments section:

    LGBT voters aren’t that implied single-issue voting block. Instead, we wonder…

    Does Senator Portman need his son to be underemployed as a result of an economic recession before he’ll support a fair living minimum wage (such as $10.10/hr)? Or would he sit by idle while that son works 40+ hour weeks living in poverty and unable to put food on the table?

    Does Senator Portman need a daughter who earns 20% less than her male colleague in a similar position before he’ll support legislation requiring equal pay for women?

    Does Senator Portman need a family member to be denied healthcare over a pre-existing condition before he’ll begin to realize the benefits of the Affordable Care Act?

    Does Senator Portman need a child facing a prolonged unemployment after a factory closes before he’ll support extending unemployment protections?

    LGBT voters know these issues, and we care deeply about them. While we should collectively stand and applaud Senator Portman’s positive change of heart on the marriage equality issue, we should not (and will not) dismiss the plethora of other issues that we care deeply about.

    The LGBT Community is a Democratic voting block, but it’s not for a single issue. While it might not be recognizable to many, we care deeply about the humanity issues that stretch across the Democratic party platform.
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    Sep 07, 2014 2:58 PM GMT
    I don't think Portman has the name recognition he needs outside of Ohio to pull this off and still think it will be Jeb if he wants it. If Jeb won't run, maybe Romney if he chooses to give it another try.

    I don't think we have anyone who can beat Hillary if she decides to run and I presume she will.
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    Sep 07, 2014 3:54 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidHonestly, what do you care? You seem to revel in throwing around disparaging words like 'homo', expressing your support for prominent anti-gay politicians (Santorum) and anti-gay causes (Chick Fil A) and then you get on your high horse when anyone suggests you may not have the interests of gay people at heart.


    Bingo.
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    Sep 07, 2014 4:27 PM GMT
    http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2014/08/28/rob-portman-running-president-2016/14752161/ (for some reason the tool to hotlink is not working)

    He's not really on anyone's radar yet with regards to polling, but maybe he will be another reasonable alternative.
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    Sep 07, 2014 5:27 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    freedomisntfree said
    I don't think we have anyone who can beat Hillary if she decides to run and I presume she will.



    Exactly. The country now has more "takers" (people who don't pay income taxes and receive government welfare) than "producers" (people who pay income taxes and do not receive government welfare).

    So who do you think the majority is going to vote for, the one saying that the government will continue to pay for your life, or the one who (correctly) says that government can't afford to keep paying for your life?

    Which is why I have pretty much zero interest in following the 2016 Presidential race.


    I think Hillary would be a big improvement on foreign policy issues versus who we have now.

    I could support most of the republicans being talked about except for Rand Paul and Bachmann. Even Santorum has been out of office for too long. And frankly, there would be some of the same concerns about Bush who has been out 9 years since FL governor.

    I may at some point get interested, but that hasn't happened yet.

    I do think Portman could be electable in the General election, which is something I can't say for several of the others.

    I don't know much about his homosexual son, but from what I understand, this is the reason he didn't run in 2012. His son didn't want the attention at least until he was out of undergrad. Makes sense.
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    Sep 07, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
    http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/romney-no-question-id-be-better-president-hillary_804470.html

    And when you listen to this it sure sounds like Mitt may give it another go. Definitely could support him.
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    Sep 07, 2014 6:00 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidBest overall compromise

    dont compromise ever
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    Sep 07, 2014 8:38 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    freedomisntfree said
    I don't think we have anyone who can beat Hillary if she decides to run and I presume she will.



    Exactly. The country now has more "takers" (people who don't pay income taxes and receive government welfare) than "producers" (people who pay income taxes and do not receive government welfare).



    AMEN. The "takers" are bad enough but we've also go "fakers".

    "Fakers" spend all day, everyday, online ranting instead of working.
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    Sep 07, 2014 9:08 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidBest overall compromise

    dont compromise ever


    Representative democracies require compromise. Only way it works.
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    Sep 08, 2014 2:13 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidAnd to put things into political perspective, if Eric Cantor can't win against a fellow Republican due to the single issue of immigration reform, in which Cantor expressed interest in compromise, there is no way Portman can do the same on gay rights. And then there's Romney, who lost by 5%, largely due to conservatives not voting for him because of his Mormon religion.

    Portman cannot win as a Republican and it will be interesting to see how he competes against the likes of Rick Santorum.


    That isn't why Cantor lost. He has been way too cozy with the GOP establishment-types.

    Dave Brat beat Cantor because Brat understands economics, and is not cozy with big government intrusiveness or crony socialism.
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    Sep 08, 2014 2:15 PM GMT
    freedomisntfree saidI don't think Portman has the name recognition he needs outside of Ohio to pull this off and still think it will be Jeb if he wants it. If Jeb won't run, maybe Romney if he chooses to give it another try.

    I don't think we have anyone who can beat Hillary if she decides to run and I presume she will.


    It is written in the stars, surely prophesied from of old: Hillary MUST be President.
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    Sep 08, 2014 2:36 PM GMT
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    freedomisntfree saidI don't think Portman has the name recognition he needs outside of Ohio to pull this off and still think it will be Jeb if he wants it. If Jeb won't run, maybe Romney if he chooses to give it another try.

    I don't think we have anyone who can beat Hillary if she decides to run and I presume she will.


    It is written in the stars, surely prophesied from of old: Hillary MUST be President.


    Not saying that's what I want, but I think that will be the reality.