AaronH20P saidThe PARTNER Study isn't over yet. It's second phase has only just started and is expected to end in 2017 only.
This is what the PARTNER Study team has to say about all this:
Undetectable is NOT the "new negative".
Unprotected sex with an undetectable partner is NOT safe
"Given the latest data showing that effective HIV treatment dramatically reduces the chances of sexual transmission—potentially to zero—we need new ways of talking about HIV before hooking up. To make informed decisions about risk today, it’s not enough to know whether someone is HIV positive or HIV negative (or thinks he is) but also what he’s doing about treatment, if positive, or biomedical prevention, if negative."
"It’s all about harm reduction, said panelist David Waggoner. “We have to negotiate our own levels of comfort, and we’re all going to come to different conclusions about what we’re comfortable with and not comfortable with.”
Is undetectable the new negative? That is the question. For some, who worry about the actual transmission rate, it is. For many who point out "But you're still POSITIVE!...."(followed by some epithet) it is all about the stigma of being POZ.
Never mind that the CDC, amongst MANY others say: "Treatment as prevention (TasP) for people with HIV.
Treating people with HIV lowers the amount of virus in
their body and can dramatically reduce their risk of
transmitting HIV to others, underscoring the importance
of HIV testing and access to medical care and treatment.
In fact, a landmark clinical trial in 2011 showed that
people with HIV who began taking anti-HIV medications
early (before their immune systems were significantly
weakened) experienced a 96 percent reduction in their
risk of transmitting HIV to their sexual partners."
(also pre-Partners, which reinforce those, and other findings to probably "ZERO")
True, it's not safe sex. I don't think there is such a thing as safe sex. It's safer and what is comfortable to the people involved. Condoms should not be thrown away, there are still STDs and it's yet another barrier. With condom use down in the US and S Africa, with TasP HIV rates have dropped 30 and 41% respectively. But in Botswana, where condom use is UP and TasP is also used rates are down 71%