For the First Time, the "YES" Vote in the Scotland Independence Referendum Gains a Majority in Polling

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    Sep 08, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/08/world/europe/uk-scotland-independence/

    "(CNN) -- With less than two weeks to go until Scotland's referendum, polls suggest an increase in those favoring independence from the United Kingdom, with one survey for the first time putting the "yes" vote ahead.

    On September 18, voters in Scotland will be presented with a simple yes/no question: Should Scotland be an independent country?

    A "yes" vote would mean Scotland splits from the rest of the United Kingdom -- that is, England, Wales and Northern Ireland."

    What do you all think? Will Scotland secede? I'd particularly like to hear the opinions of those from the UK and anyone outside the UK who likes to follow UK politics.
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    Sep 08, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
    I predict a 55% 'no' vote.

    If I'm wrong, I will be somewhat disappointed, but not bereft. Scotland is already a very different part of the UK, so most English people have no great emotional attachment to it. If they get independence, good luck to them.

    I suppose it would be like Texas becoming independent from the rest of the US. The rest of the US would probably roll their eyes and carry on.
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    Sep 08, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
    Too bad that the vote won't be overwhelming one way or the other.

    Especially if independence is voted for, such a divided populace is not a good sign for a newly independent country.


    RJ NEEDS MORE SCOTS....especially in this forum!
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    Sep 08, 2014 9:39 PM GMT
    I feel a strong connection to Scotland, having spent my junior of college (1981-82) at the University of Edinburgh and the summer of 1985 working in Glasgow. I've been back several times since then, including this summer. My Scottish friends whom I've known since the 1980s are in the no camp because they think it would not be good for Scotland's economy to go it alone. (They are also longtime opponents of the revived Scottish parliament at Holyrood as a collosal waste of money.) Other folks I know in Scotland support independence because they advocate more progressive social policies that are unlikely to be supported by the Tories who are in power in London. Arguably, if Labour were in power in the UK Parliament then they might not vote for Scottish independence.

    Paul Krugman had a very compelling op-ed piece in the New York Times today saying that a yes vote would be very unwise economically for Scotland because the yes vote supporters want to combine political independence with lack of an independent currency so that Scotland would be economically fragile like Spain under the euro and not like Canada with its independent currency.

    As for me as an outsider, I just want to see Scotland retain its unique cultural character, whether it be politically independent or not. (I feel the same way about the francophone traditions of Quebec vis-a-vis Canada.)
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    Sep 08, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    Here's the url for that Paul Krugman article:

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/09/08/opinion/paul-krugman-scots-what-the-heck.html?referrer=
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    Sep 09, 2014 12:25 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI predict a 55% 'no' vote.

    If I'm wrong, I will be somewhat disappointed, but not bereft. Scotland is already a very different part of the UK, so most English people have no great emotional attachment to it. If they get independence, good luck to them.

    I suppose it would be like Texas becoming independent from the rest of the US. The rest of the US would probably roll their eyes and carry on.
    Good, valid point. +1
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 09, 2014 10:27 AM GMT
    Personally, this whole thing seems rather silly.

    You either leave and become a separate state or you don't.

    They still want the BBC, the pound sterling, and numerous other things.

    And crikey, they still wish to be part of the EU! (Which might I add, the "fees" to be a member of the EU is rather expensive).
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:53 PM GMT
    jaroslav123 saidPersonally, this whole thing seems rather silly.

    You either leave and become a separate state or you don't.

    They still want the BBC, the pound sterling, and numerous other things.

    And crikey, they still wish to be part of the EU! (Which might I add, the "fees" to be a member of the EU is rather expensive).


    If they do become independent they can take the royal family from us too lol.

    I seriously want Scotland to remain in the UK for the simple fact it's likely we are going to have a very close election result so all votes will truly count. Regardless of the outcome Scotland will vote in the general election but if they do leave it may force a second election if the government becomes a minority government. The UK won't survive another term of the tories running things so we need Scotland more than we need them at the moment.
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    Sep 19, 2014 7:28 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI predict a 55% 'no' vote.


    Remember, you heard it here first.
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    Sep 19, 2014 7:35 AM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said
    Ex_Mil8 saidI predict a 55% 'no' vote.


    Remember, you heard it here first.

    Damn, you were SPOT ON! And that YouGov poll was pretty close as well!
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    Sep 19, 2014 1:53 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI predict a 55% 'no' vote.


    ^^^Posted Sept 8...10 days before the yesterday's referendum.

    Which proves that Ex_Mil8 is either psychic.....or he's part of 'The Conspiracy'!