crossfit and regular gym....

  • jock2b

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    Sep 09, 2014 2:06 PM GMT
    Went to regular gym for first time in about a year today, but been doing cross fit for like 3 months now. Can someone please explain how I can do a 65lb clean/press during a WOD for multiple reps, but at the gym a 25lb barbell press seems like torture?
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    Sep 09, 2014 4:18 PM GMT
    It's called adrenaline. CrossFit is exciting. Regular gyms to me now feel like working out in a library. I'll never go back to a regular gym. Ever.
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    Sep 09, 2014 5:56 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's called adrenaline. CrossFit is exciting. Regular gyms to me now feel like working out in a library. I'll never go back to a regular gym. Ever.


    I agree 100%!!
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    Sep 09, 2014 6:11 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt's called adrenaline.

    Yep, that's why mothers are able to lift cars off their children but adrenaline doesn't always get you the best outcomes. I got adrenaline jumping out of an airplane (herniated a disc) and caught in the middle between warring dog owner factions at a community board meeting (dampened my altruism). I won't do either again. One man's excitement is another's jarring distraction - I happen to like libraries; it may take a little longer to achieve the same physical outcome but once you factor in the downtime from Crossfit injuries the stacks start looking mighty good. Of course those Crossfitters who've never been injured think they'll never BE injured. To each his own; time will tell.
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:24 PM GMT
    eagermuscle said
    Scruffypup saidIt's called adrenaline.

    Yep, that's why mothers are able to lift cars off their children but adrenaline doesn't always get you the best outcomes. I got adrenaline jumping out of an airplane (herniated a disc) and caught in the middle between warring dog owner factions at a community board meeting (dampened my altruism). I won't do either again. One man's excitement is another's jarring distraction - I happen to like libraries; it may take a little longer to achieve the same physical outcome but once you factor in the downtime from Crossfit injuries the stacks start looking mighty good. Of course those Crossfitters who've never been injured think they'll never BE injured. To each his own; time will tell.


    CrossFit is not for everyone for sure. But as someone who has worked out my entire life, I can tell you no more injuries happen in CrossFit than a regular gym. I don't know a single person who works out who has never been injured. Not a single one. And the insanely dangerous things I see people doing in regular gyms is many times what I see in CrossFit. At least in CrossFit you're being guided the entire way by an instructor.

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    Sep 10, 2014 4:39 AM GMT
    I have been doing Crossfit for just over a year and recommend it.
    I have done weights in the gym , group fitness, running...
    Crossfit beats them all.
    Very motivational, great people and it gets results...lean muscle.
    All fitness activities have risks ...riding a bike or running on the road can be dangerous.
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    Sep 10, 2014 4:44 AM GMT
    jock2b saidWent to regular gym for first time in about a year today, but been doing cross fit for like 3 months now. Can someone please explain how I can do a 65lb clean/press during a WOD for multiple reps, but at the gym a 25lb barbell press seems like torture?

    You're comparing two different exercises. Clean and press, you're using momentum to bring the barbell up. I'm assuming you performed a seated barbell press at the gym?
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    Sep 10, 2014 6:05 AM GMT
    Like xrichx says a clean and press is actually a clean and push press.

    An overhead press (OHP) and a push press are two quite different exercises.
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    Sep 10, 2014 6:11 AM GMT
    And Crossfit has the same injury rates as everything else (bottom of the page and next page):
    http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-04/crossfit-fights-injury-reputation-as-community-aspect-fuels-growth#p3

    I've certainly hurt myself more in the regular gym on deadlifts and squats than I have doing Crossfit. Maybe I should start Crossfit again actually...
  • NealJohn

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    Sep 10, 2014 1:39 PM GMT
    momentum; crossfit people don't use concentric and eccentric phases like us body-builders do. Don't be mistaken, Body-builders have the real strength
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    Sep 10, 2014 2:04 PM GMT
    For the most part, I agree with NealJohn's comment. For many years, I mostly lifted wts - maxing out very often with my wt lifting routines, trying to achieve size over a cut look. About 3 years ago I started incorporating cross fit. Now I do 3 days of cross fit and 2-3 days of wt lifting every week. I really enjoy this mixture. When I do cross fit, I can typically do a heavier wt than those men who do cross fit exclusively and keep up with the number of repetitions they do. When I go lift wts although I cannot lift the max wts any more (probably more a reflection of my age)I do not need to rest much between my sets either to catch my breath or to let my muscles recover for nearly as long as those guys who only wt lift. With wt lifting I can still get sore and achieve a nice "pumped" feeling. With cross fit, I cannot achieve the same feeling. After wt lifting I often still have energy. Sometimes after a cross fit class, I literally crawl off the gym floor.
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    Sep 10, 2014 2:16 PM GMT
    Just to clarify - I've been doing "crossfit" for decades - lifting + swimming + yoga, three activities I can pursue into my nineties - and I'm aesthetic AND functional. I just don't do them all at the same time because with old cervical and lumbar herniations (that happened IRL, not at the gym) that'd be a recipe for disaster.

    Same with the Crossfit under discussion. Lifting at the gym I can avoid the deadlifts, unsupported barbell rows, lunges, herky-jerky movements and needlessly heavy weights that'd reaggravate old injuries, doing my own thing without being "motivated" or "instructed" to do anything I shouldn't. Regardless of the competence of the Crossfit instructor, I THINK that when it comes to people with preexisting conditions, and even people that KNOW what they're doing, there's a far higher risk of injury with Crossfit. (I'm not going to trot out empirical studies because there's always a contradicting one.) I also think it's irresponsible to rhapsodize over Crossfit while recommending it with nary a mention of the risks. Yes, it's riskier to bicycle or jog on auto exhaust-choked streets thinking you're impervious to other peoples' stupidity. That's why I don't do that, either.

    xrichx had the best and most relevant answer, btw. It's primarily the clean & press MOMENTUM that allows you to lift more. Try to replicate that movement in the gym. If you're unable to because the regular gym bores you and you need the conviviality of a group setting and the motivation of others, there's no cure for that so by all means do Crossfit - just be careful out there.
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    Sep 12, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    As you get older, flexibility is very important.