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    Sep 09, 2014 6:54 PM GMT
    Rest in peace, Dick Tracy, in comics heaven! You've finally got your wrist watch for real...and then some!
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    Sep 09, 2014 7:41 PM GMT
    Not too impressed so far. Maybe the third generation will be worth buying?

    What I want is the whole phone in a shock-proof, water-proof wrist cuff. Not some extra thing to carry.
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    Sep 09, 2014 11:17 PM GMT
    I have an Apple MacBook Pro.
    That's enough for me.
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    Sep 10, 2014 4:20 AM GMT
    Smartwatches are cool. It will make it easier for people to text and make calls while driving. icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 10, 2014 4:53 AM GMT
    hmmmm...oh, what's that? Apple still doggedly refuses to allow Flash content on their handsets as it might wrest a modicum of control from their iron-fisted grasp over developers? Not interested...

    I have nothing but Apple products but that's because all of it, except my 5th Gen iPod nano and 4th Gen iPad, is hand-me-downs. Who looks a gift horse in the mouth? Not this guy. Don't get me wrong, I like the feel and finish of their stuff but their dogged refusal to allow a critical technology that MOST of the internet relies on just pisses me off.
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    Sep 10, 2014 4:54 AM GMT
    xrichx saidSmartwatches are cool. It will make it easier for people to text and make calls while driving. icon_lol.gif


    feh, my Chevy Sonic has Siri Onboard. Hold down the "talk" button on the steering wheel and it interfaces with him and lets you do anything so long as it doesn't involve Apple Maps for some idiotic reason.
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    Sep 10, 2014 5:03 AM GMT
    The whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.
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    Sep 10, 2014 5:18 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.


    That will never happen and I can tell you why.

    1. The fashion accessory market is a HUGE industry catering to every demographic it can get its hands on. Everyone is eager for a little bling and if that bling comes with a fancy name on it or one people recognize, all the better. Young kids, especially at schools with dress codes/uniforms will find that a watch may be their only form of self-expression.
    2. Subtlety & Usefulness: It is and always WILL be considered incredibly rude to check your watch while someone is talking...but it's a hell of a lot easier to avoid getting caught checking something attached to your wrist than surreptitiously slipping your phone out of your pocket.
    3. Memento: High-end watches are traditional gifts for major milestones, etc. They get passed down from father to son in middle-class families as a symbol of achievement and a motivator for the ambitions of the next generation. A milestone anniversary might be marked by a husband and wife exchanging wristwatches, each with an engraved message on the back from the recipient's spouse.
    4. Investment: I don't like this reason, but it IS true. A Rolex does not appreciate in value but its rate of depreciation is fairly negligible when compared to other luxury goods. Assuming you have a decent safe at home, its a nice non-liquid place to store a cool $5-30k depending on the model.
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    Sep 10, 2014 5:26 AM GMT
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    2. Subtlety & Usefulness: It is and always WILL be considered incredibly rude to check your watch while someone is talking...but it's a hell of a lot easier to avoid getting caught checking something attached to your wrist than surreptitiously slipping your phone out of your pocket.


    That is one of the few cool features of the A-watch. It sends subtle buzz-codes to your wrist to feed you information without looking at it.

    Yeah... as I was watching that, I was just imagining the cock-ring and butt-plug applications that will inevitably follow icon_surprised.gif
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    Sep 10, 2014 6:20 AM GMT
    Life2Short said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.


    That will never happen and I can tell you why.

    Sounds to me like you're basically reiterating what I said, which is that it's the expensive watches that continue to sell. You're probably not old enough to remember but back before cell phones EVERYONE wore a watch. Often an inexpensive one, e.g., Casio. The Swiss made a comeback with the Swatch but that was just before the advent of the cell phone so it didn't last long.

    I wish I'd had and kept one of those early electronic watches that used red LEDs. It sort of looked like this:

    RED2.jpg
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    Sep 10, 2014 6:38 AM GMT
    lol. I got one of those for high skool graduation. It lasted about two years.
    I had been carrying my great-granddad's 1850 railroad watch all through high school, and it just kept going. (Needs to be cleaned and adjusted by a jeweler every five years or so though icon_sad.gif ) Always wore Levis 501 jeans because they had the watch pocket.

    The current pocket phone is just about the same degree of handiness, but it does as much as all the crap I used to haul around in a backpack in those days. So now, I wear Propper "tactical shorts" and "tactical pants" because they have a pocket sized exactly for the iPhone. These newer bigger ones probably won't fit.

    (Nerd, I. This weekend, I'll cut and plane down a couple of pieces of wood to the exact dimensions of the new phones and experiment with carrying them.)

    Oh yeah. After the digital watch craze, I had a scuba watch. I used to leave it strapped to my motorcycle handlebar, and some ass-wipe stole it. Now there is actually an iPhone housing for that.
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    Sep 10, 2014 12:06 PM GMT
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    Life2Short said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.


    That will never happen and I can tell you why.

    Sounds to me like you're basically reiterating what I said, which is that it's the expensive watches that continue to sell. You're probably not old enough to remember but back before cell phones EVERYONE wore a watch. Often an inexpensive one, e.g., Casio. The Swiss made a comeback with the Swatch but that was just before the advent of the cell phone so it didn't last long.

    I wish I'd had and kept one of those early electronic watches that used red LEDs. It sort of looked like this:

    RED2.jpg


    Firstly, nobody likes it when you start an argument with "You're probably not old enough to..." And I'm pretty sure I said a fair bit more than just "reiterating everything you just said"

    I'm old enough to remember my mom's car phone. The one that couldn't come out of the car. I remember having Timex and Casio watches (I still wear a Timex to exercise and have a vintage one from the 50's) on all the time. But you didn't catch my whole meaning. #1 "fancy" didn't mean "Rolex". It meant "designo", the group between $50 and $500, where you're paying for a varying mixture of quality and name brandiness (Michael Kors can suck it). This is the biggest market right now as having a showy watch is "in" in certain crowds. That doesn't necessitate an EXPENSIVE watch though.
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    Sep 10, 2014 1:19 PM GMT
    if its an Apple product:
    avoid anything revision zero




    wait a few revision cycles before buying this.
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    Sep 10, 2014 1:31 PM GMT
    Life2Short said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.


    That will never happen and I can tell you why.

    1. The fashion accessory market is a HUGE industry catering to every demographic it can get its hands on. Everyone is eager for a little bling and if that bling comes with a fancy name on it or one people recognize, all the better. Young kids, especially at schools with dress codes/uniforms will find that a watch may be their only form of self-expression.
    2. Subtlety & Usefulness: It is and always WILL be considered incredibly rude to check your watch while someone is talking...but it's a hell of a lot easier to avoid getting caught checking something attached to your wrist than surreptitiously slipping your phone out of your pocket.
    3. Memento: High-end watches are traditional gifts for major milestones, etc. They get passed down from father to son in middle-class families as a symbol of achievement and a motivator for the ambitions of the next generation. A milestone anniversary might be marked by a husband and wife exchanging wristwatches, each with an engraved message on the back from the recipient's spouse.
    4. Investment: I don't like this reason, but it IS true. A Rolex does not appreciate in value but its rate of depreciation is fairly negligible when compared to other luxury goods. Assuming you have a decent safe at home, its a nice non-liquid place to store a cool $5-30k depending on the model.


    I wonder if 3-4 will diminish with something like this only because the bells and whistles will quickly become obsolete when the next version comes out.

    We watched the video last night with friends (I felt like I was at a revival meeting, the way they and the audience were carrying on) and I was not immediately struck with the need to own one. I never wear a watch now, and -- although I would have to see the device in person to say this for sure -- I think the writing will be too small for me to do much with it.
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    Sep 10, 2014 2:06 PM GMT
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    Life2Short said
    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.


    That will never happen and I can tell you why.

    1. The fashion accessory market is a HUGE industry catering to every demographic it can get its hands on. Everyone is eager for a little bling and if that bling comes with a fancy name on it or one people recognize, all the better. Young kids, especially at schools with dress codes/uniforms will find that a watch may be their only form of self-expression.
    2. Subtlety & Usefulness: It is and always WILL be considered incredibly rude to check your watch while someone is talking...but it's a hell of a lot easier to avoid getting caught checking something attached to your wrist than surreptitiously slipping your phone out of your pocket.
    3. Memento: High-end watches are traditional gifts for major milestones, etc. They get passed down from father to son in middle-class families as a symbol of achievement and a motivator for the ambitions of the next generation. A milestone anniversary might be marked by a husband and wife exchanging wristwatches, each with an engraved message on the back from the recipient's spouse.
    4. Investment: I don't like this reason, but it IS true. A Rolex does not appreciate in value but its rate of depreciation is fairly negligible when compared to other luxury goods. Assuming you have a decent safe at home, its a nice non-liquid place to store a cool $5-30k depending on the model.


    I wonder if 3-4 will diminish with something like this only because the bells and whistles will quickly become obsolete when the next version comes out.

    We watched the video last night with friends (I felt like I was at a revival meeting, the way they and the audience were carrying on) and I was not immediately struck with the need to own one. I never wear a watch now, and -- although I would have to see the device in person to say this for sure -- I think the writing will be too small for me to do much with it.


    No, my argument applies exclusively to traditional wrist- and fob-watches. Technology becomes obsolete so quickly these days, something like a traditional timepiece, while no longer worn by ALL, has a lot more endurance
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    Sep 10, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
    Naaaaah, I'll pass. Give me a traditional time piece, thank you very much... My Omega is good enough for me.
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    Sep 11, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
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    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe whole smart watch market seems odd to me. About the only watches I see any more are the very expensive ones that are more jewelry than functional; everyone has a phone that has accurate time so watches are dying out.


    That will never happen and I can tell you why.

    Sounds to me like you're basically reiterating what I said, which is that it's the expensive watches that continue to sell. You're probably not old enough to remember but back before cell phones EVERYONE wore a watch. Often an inexpensive one, e.g., Casio. The Swiss made a comeback with the Swatch but that was just before the advent of the cell phone so it didn't last long.

    I wish I'd had and kept one of those early electronic watches that used red LEDs. It sort of looked like this:

    RED2.jpg


    I've actually seen a company online that markets various watches *including* a somewhat retro design with red led numbers! Have to find that reference again.

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    Sep 11, 2014 9:47 PM GMT
    Life2Short saidhmmmm...oh, what's that? Apple still doggedly refuses to allow Flash content on their handsets as it might wrest a modicum of control from their iron-fisted grasp over developers? Not interested...

    I have nothing but Apple products but that's because all of it, except my 5th Gen iPod nano and 4th Gen iPad, is hand-me-downs. Who looks a gift horse in the mouth? Not this guy. Don't get me wrong, I like the feel and finish of their stuff but their dogged refusal to allow a critical technology that MOST of the internet relies on just pisses me off.



    Not even Adobe supports mobile flash and it hasnt done so in the past 3 years. The biggest flash multimedia conference in Toronto FITC had to shift its focus towards HTML5 because guess what- flash is dead. Im a web developer and all i can say is THANK YOU STEVE for dropping such an annoying technology that was fragmenting the web while slowing down the development of proper web standards.
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    Sep 11, 2014 9:54 PM GMT
    pellaz saidif its an Apple product:
    avoid anything revision zero




    wait a few revision cycles before buying this.



    If there is a company which first product iterations actually worked as advertised, that company is Apple. Ive pilotted most of their early tech even from beta builds and it has never let me down, with the exception of iOS beta 1 builds
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    Sep 11, 2014 10:52 PM GMT
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    pellaz saidif its an Apple product:
    avoid anything revision zero
    wait a few revision cycles before buying this.

    If there is a company which first product iterations actually worked as advertised, that company is Apple. Ive pilotted most of their early tech even from beta builds and it has never let me down, with the exception of iOS beta 1 builds

    Thanks for reminding me that everything Apple does is perfect. Somehow I'd managed to forget that.
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    Sep 11, 2014 11:00 PM GMT
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    charlitos said
    pellaz saidif its an Apple product:
    avoid anything revision zero
    wait a few revision cycles before buying this.

    If there is a company which first product iterations actually worked as advertised, that company is Apple. Ive pilotted most of their early tech even from beta builds and it has never let me down, with the exception of iOS beta 1 builds

    Thanks for reminding me that everything Apple does is perfect. Somehow I'd managed to forget that.



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    Sep 11, 2014 11:22 PM GMT
    Not sure about the usefulness of it but I must say the Apple watch looks nice.

    If they will manage to pull off at least two day five day battery life on it they are going to rule the market.
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    Sep 11, 2014 11:29 PM GMT
    klobasnik saidNot sure about the usefulness of it but I must say the Apple watch looks nice.

    If they will manage to pull off at least two day five day battery life on it they are going to rule the market.

    From what I've read of the initial reviews it's been designed to be an extension of the iPhone so I'm not sure that's true since not everyone has an iPhone.

    On the other hand, I do think that designing a smart watch to be an extension of our phones is the right direction to go and a smart move on Apple's part.
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    Sep 12, 2014 12:55 AM GMT
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    charlitos said
    pellaz saidif its an Apple product:
    avoid anything revision zero
    wait a few revision cycles before buying this.

    If there is a company which first product iterations actually worked as advertised, that company is Apple. Ive pilotted most of their early tech even from beta builds and it has never let me down, with the exception of iOS beta 1 builds

    Thanks for reminding me that everything Apple does is perfect. Somehow I'd managed to forget that.



    I didnt say it was first perfect, it isnt. When i got the first iPhone I was mind blown with how responsive it was, I was confused about the lack of copy/paste tho, and that was the first time I actually started to like Apple products. When I got the first iPad I thought the bezels were too big and a bit heavier than expected but it worked amazingly well. Out of the three I would say this watch looks way better finished for a first iteration of the product.

    I was never a huge Apple fan, I always thought they were too restrictive and limited with their offers and also too expensive. It took a while for me to understand how good they really are at what they do. You can probably find threads on here from 2008-2009 were I down right bash Apple from left to right fighting lilTanker. He was right tho, once you go Mac you never look back ;)
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    Sep 12, 2014 1:01 AM GMT
    From what I've seen so far, I will be getting an iPhone 6, but not the Plus. I still want my phone to be easily pocketable, and I almost always have my iPad with me. Don't need a phablet size. But I like the 128 GB, I've maxed the 64 GB on my 5s, In fact, I've nearly maxed my iPad Air's 128 GB, and hoping the next gen goes to 256.

    As for this watch, I might consider it. I always wear a watch 24/7, even to bed, in the shower, everywhere. My eyesight is very poor, so I always want to be able to bring a watch up close to me when I have my glasses off. In bed at night, in the shower, wherever.

    So I don't like the idea of removing it from my wrist to be charging it. My current daily watch is totally solar, doesn't even have a replaceable battery, just runs & runs, I never have to think about it. Also sets itself to the atomic clock via radio, but I suppose the Apple Watch would also receive a time signal from the iPhone.

    I'll have to learn more about its "care & upkeep" before I decide.