my own prison: i feel ashamed

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    Sep 09, 2014 7:23 PM GMT
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    Sep 09, 2014 7:31 PM GMT
    So you were once straight or bisexual and now you only like men?
  • MikemikeMike

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    Sep 09, 2014 7:44 PM GMT
    Hi,
    Strong Italian Roman Catholic here. You are not going to hell! It is ok to live and worship God and love a man. You were born this way. I'm sure some of your friends and family know. Do not go down the path of self loathing. Be who you are. Be a good person.
    One line in Leviticus says man should not lie with man like he does with woman. It was meant for procreation. Because two men can't produce a child. Leviticus also says it is better for a man to burry his seed in the belly of a whore than to let it spill on the ground.
    To quote a lame pop singer's tune, which has a decent dance beat. "This is the part where you break free!"
    Arianna Grande
    Be well live joyfully be good to yourself and others. Volunteer your time.
    YOU will be ok!!
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    Sep 09, 2014 7:47 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidHi,
    Strong Italian Roman Catholic here. You are not going to hell! It is ok to live and worship God and love a man. You were born this way. I'm sure some of your friends and family know. Do not go down the path of self loathing. Be who you are. Be a good person.
    One line in Leviticus says man should not lie with man like he does with woman. It was meant for procreation. Because two men can't produce a child. Leviticus also says it is better for a man to burry his seed in the belly of a whore than to let it spill on the ground.
    To quote a lame pop singer's tune, which has a decent dance beat. "This is the part where you break free!"
    Arianna Grande
    Be well live joyfully be good to yourself and others. Volunteer your time.
    YOU will be ok!!


    +1 and if a church identity is important to you but the one you're in doesn't respect who you are, there are others that will (assuming you're in Europe or North America, at least).
  • tj85016

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    Sep 09, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    well whatever you do, don't try and marry a woman to satisfy your religion, you'll ruin her life
  • xBEHEMOTHx

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    Sep 09, 2014 7:53 PM GMT
    Been in those shoes..you'll be much happier when you can accept yourself and stop worrying about what others think
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    Sep 09, 2014 7:54 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidwell whatever you do, don't try and marry a woman to satisfy your religion, you'll ruin her life
    yes man i know! at my work there is a girl who liked me and my fellow co workers set us up on a date. i didnt want to go but i did.
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    Sep 09, 2014 7:56 PM GMT
    shu, masihi aw mislim?
    shu 3omrak?
    (Unless you are Iranian).
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    Sep 09, 2014 8:01 PM GMT
    Sweetooth saidshu, masihi aw mislim?
    shu 3omrak?
    (Unless you are Iranian).


    no man , i jewish!
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    Sep 09, 2014 8:02 PM GMT
    hey Im a Roman Catholic too, dont feel that way and dont let people brainwash you with lies, hating gays is NOT what the bible says. Even the priest at my church was totally find with it said people inteprete the bible like they want and for their own convenience, so just take it as it is, if you believe in a God then he made you that way so dont feel embarrassed or ashamed about it.
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    Sep 09, 2014 8:03 PM GMT
    guido4life said
    Sweetooth saidshu, masihi aw mislim?
    shu 3omrak?
    (Unless you are Iranian).


    no man , i jewish!


    Oops! haha
    With how damaged you are, I was about to write you off as Muslim! I guess you are both cut from the same cloth haha
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    Sep 09, 2014 8:04 PM GMT
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    kevex saidSo you were once straight or bisexual and now you only like men?
    living a lie ! I can't even say I was straight. I was fighting how I truly felt .


    Welp, you won't find any help from an invisible sky daddy. Look for a psychologist.
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    Sep 09, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    kevex said
    guido4life said
    kevex saidSo you were once straight or bisexual and now you only like men?
    living a lie ! I can't even say I was straight. I was fighting how I truly felt .


    Welp, you won't find any help from an invisible sky daddy. Look for a psychologist.


    Hey, my sky daddy will kill yours! Checkmate, atheist!
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    Sep 09, 2014 8:05 PM GMT
    sorry I couldn't help myself

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    Sep 09, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
    guido4life saidwe all feel short of what god wanted . jacob, king david,etc. they had their flaws . the messiah will save me


    You don't believe that, do you?


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    Sep 09, 2014 8:34 PM GMT
    Most, if not ALL of us here feel your pain.

    Sexuality is a complicated thing along the with labels that go with it. I don't like the stigma that modern "gay" casts on same sex attraction. I call it that. GAY is more than....same sex attraction. It's a life style (Gay). A style that's not always deemed likeable, noble or acceptable. You can still like men men non sexually. Sometimes just a nice calm voice and the presence of a man is soothing enough for me.
    The sex act can be overrated. I do admit that temptation is there and I see a lot of it around here. You just have to lighten up and be happy and accept the fact you are who you are. Born this way? I think so. Now, the question is.....how does liking the same sex effect my standing with God, faith even my family? That has yet to be answered or at least one of them. You can bet that's the first question I will ask......WHY?

    In the meantime I can:
    Be happy
    Be a good friend, brother, son and father.
    Show my talents
    Share the truth and light.
    Be kind.
    Be a good example.
    Share with others.
    Live my life with out regret, sorrow or sadness.
    Feel like a person, a human, a creation of God.
    Show love.
    Forgive.
    Keep myself healthy.
    Feel the JOY of my manhood.
    Work hard and then work out even harder.
    Be successful.
    Live each day as if it were truly my last.
    Build a legacy and or family.
    Reach out to the less fortunate.
    Know one day that I will have the answers.
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 09, 2014 9:52 PM GMT
    Ditch the goofball religion. There is no invisible daddy who conveniently (for them) speaks through humans. Only humans wanting power over you. And your cash.
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
    guido4life said
    kevex said
    guido4life saidwe all feel short of what god wanted . jacob, king david,etc. they had their flaws . the messiah will save me


    You don't believe that, do you?


    yes i do . for example samson had to drive away all of israel enemies !g_d made samson so strong and he was a man of great faith but he let his weakness in and took his eye of g_d for moment ! samson follows his passion instead of g_d! samson feel in love delilah who was very bad! samson told delilah how g_d made him so strong he said " my mother was born g_d brought her a child me but there are things i must not do " she said such as, samson replies if i cut my hair my g_d will take away all my strength and i will be as weak as every1 elese! deliah cut his hair! he is weak and he gets captured and israeli's are now slaves! the phillistans leader tear out samsons eyes in the temple. samson is soooo weak and is about to die! thousands of israel enemies are in the temple. samson said " g_d if i am yours strengthen me! g_D gave him the strength once more ! samson destoyed the temple and every1 in it!


    If you actually believe "G_d" wrote that, you have much bigger problems. And are you not allowed to type the word "God?"
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:46 PM GMT
    Your the one who imprisoned yourself and only you can get yourself out not god.

    Being gay isn't a choice you dont wake up one day and decide to make life really difficult for yourself you do it because its you nature and your nature is gift from your creator.

    How many times has the bible been translated and rewritten? surely it can't be a sin to be gay, even animals do it.
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:49 PM GMT
    The sooner you realize God doesn't make any mistakes (including yourself) the sooner you will be able accept how he created you. It sounds like being gay was not a choice for you. Recognize that and you can start the healing process. Most of us know your struggle but I can honestly when I finally accepted myself I NEVER felt so relieved in my life. Then eventually you ask yourself " why the hell did I make such a big deal out of this".

    Good luck
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    Sep 09, 2014 10:49 PM GMT
    One day You will throw Yer arm around another Guy and look into His eyes and realize in that moment that You are absolutely perfect.

    THIS is what G- D was talking about when He made Man in His OWN image.


    Your journey is Your own, but You are definitely on the right path.

    Accept Love and You will do ok...

  • Webster666

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    Sep 09, 2014 11:08 PM GMT
    You have it backwards.
    At last, you are free.
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    Sep 09, 2014 11:43 PM GMT
    don't fly near the shame spiral bro!
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    Sep 09, 2014 11:53 PM GMT
    Cash saidOne day You will throw Yer arm around another Guy and look into His eyes and realize in that moment that You are absolutely perfect.

    THIS is what G- D was talking about when He made Man in His OWN image.


    Your journey is Your own, but You are definitely on the right path.

    Accept Love and You will do ok...



    ^^^^ This!!
    I do think the whole guilt and shame factor has been felt by a lot of gay men. You were created perfectly… regardless of who the creator is/was.. icon_smile.gif

    And to Cash… well said!!
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    Sep 10, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    Just one question?


    Have you tried COCK?

    Just curious