Swallowing: is it safe?

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    Sep 11, 2014 1:16 PM GMT
    I've heard different things about swallowing cum. I've heard that it's a total no-no but then I've heard that stomach acid kills everything (as opposed to when a guy comes in you rear and it immediately enters your bloodstream)

    What's your experience?
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    Sep 11, 2014 1:36 PM GMT
    My understanding (and I'm not a doctor, but my own own doctor is an HIV specialist, and I work with HIV agencies that disseminate this information) is that the risk from oral is low, but does exist. The US CDC confirm this. Yet the clinical evidence is weak, mostly anecdotal reports.

    The danger appears not to be from swallowing, but in the mouth. Where open sores and gums may offer entry points for HIV. I've always been told not to brush my teeth for several hours prior to oral, just use mouthwash to freshen my breath. And I do have bad gums, often bleeding a little after brushing.

    I've known some guys who only perform oral with the other guy wearing a condom. I did that myself with my late partner because I knew he had HIV. I'd wipe down the condom with a damp washcloth to remove any lube and spermicide.

    Such precautions aren't necessary with my husband & me today, because we are 100% monogamous and tested several times a year for all STIs, during routine blood work. So I can "bareback" him in my mouth.

    Hell, he can bareback me up the ass, but that's only because we've been monogamous together for over 7 years, and take blood tests all the time due to other medical issues we have. If you don't know the guy that well, however, and wanna trust him with your life, Safe Sex means assuming he's got something, that even he may not know he has, and taking precautions.

    So again, oral sex is believed to be low risk for HIV, but not without any risk. How you manage that risk is up to you.
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    Sep 11, 2014 2:04 PM GMT
    Thanks so much for that detailed response and so sorry to hear that you lost your first partner. I'm glad your happy with your husband and monogamy must be so great for the single reason of swallowing!

    Thanks for backing up what I've heard. I remember that now: open sores in the mouth are the real problem. I hope to one day be in your situation: committed to one man and we can enjoy ourselves fully.
  • Koaa2

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    Sep 11, 2014 5:52 PM GMT
    If you like to swallow, you might think of starting on Truvada, new medication to prevent HIV. Suppose to be almost 100 effective in preventing HIV. Ask your doctor about it.
  • vhotti26

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    Sep 25, 2014 4:32 PM GMT
    What's definitely true is that once it's in your mouth, it's safer to swallow than to keep it there.

    What's also true is that you should avoid brushing your teeth before oral. Get a Fresh Breath spray for that purpose or chew a gum or something like that.

    I do oral without condom even on first time hookups, but I don't get any cum near my mouth. Which is a pity because cum play and snowballing and all that is super hot, but safety is paramount so I won't do it.
  • Svnw688

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    Sep 26, 2014 12:28 AM GMT
    "Safe"

    That's where the entire debate will circle around. Do you mean risk of HIV, or risk of other STD/STIs? When you say "safe," do you mean 100% as the criterion or is 99% acceptable? What about a 80% level of "safety"?

    If you mean HIV, I think the consensus is that it's relatively SAFE, but there is a theoretical possibility. Especially if you have dental issues or are prone to bleeding gums (like when you floss or eat). Also, there's a difference between a nice velvety BJ and a skull fuck.

    Scientists allege that saliva has "natural" HIV resistant properties, so spit is a good thing. Last I heard, rinsing with Listerine or brushing your teeth 30 minutes before giving oral is a NO NO because it neutralizes the good properties of saliva and causes gum bleeding, respectively. Seems to make sense. I know when I floss I spit some red out a few times.

    If you mean other STD/STI safe then I can't answer that. If you're debating between indulging in a hot oral session or a hot anal session, and they're equally pleasuring to you, then opt for the oral. Anal sex is the highest risk sexual activity you can do. But don't go around thinking it's 100% safe. A guy's precum and potentially cum is in your mouth, and microscopic cuts can provide an access path.
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    Sep 26, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
    dont overthink it on oral, there´s is a chance with everything, but oral is one of those that should not be hunting you, just dont brush your teeth and then suck a dick, have a gum if you have bad breath or something lol, really more easly you die from something else or get HIV from an undetecteble person plus with a condom (in case it breaks and assuming you lubed well), realy not worth getting worried about it, just protect yourself on anal (EVEN IF YOU ARE TOP AND CUT...and take a piss after the sexual act), that´s where your concerns should be, play it safe =)
  • Svnw688

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    Sep 26, 2014 5:30 PM GMT
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  • Apparition

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    Sep 27, 2014 7:43 PM GMT
    pretty much if the dick is in your mouth you are already infected for the lesser std's cum or no cum. try to make him cum as far in as possible, fewer cuts in there.
  • Rhi_Bran

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    Mar 01, 2015 8:00 PM GMT
    What has been said before is true - spit is an inhospitable fluid for HIV. HIV requires very stable conditions to live, hence why it is incredibly difficult to pass outside of direct transmission such as intercourse and needle sticks. The pH of saliva varies and fluctuates too much for HIV to survive in it - this is why it also cannot survive in urine. Plus, the glycoproteins and enzymes found in spit further serve to denature virus particles.

    As for getting HIV from swallowing? It is rare, but entirely possible. It's more difficult to transmit orally because the mucus membranes in the anus are (relatively) much, much thinner and more easily damaged than the mucus membranes in the mouth. Small, even microscopic tears in the lining of the anus or rectum are enough to allow transmission of the virus. Your saliva also helps to damage HIV to the point where it may not be viable.

    If you suffer from recurring aphthous ulcers (a kind of canker sore with many causes) or have other mouth sores which weaken your oral mucus membrane and draw immune cells to your mouth, you are at higher risk of oral transmission. The virus doesn't have to work so hard to get through the mucus membranes because the cells it needs are right there on those open sores.

    HOWEVER, most if not all other STD's can easily be passed orally. Herpes, HPV, gonorrhea, chlamydia, syphilis... if your partner has any sores or red irritated looking skin around his junk or anus, don't put it in your mouth.
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    Mar 02, 2015 2:19 AM GMT
    Most people with bad dental hygiene gets sick because bacteria and viruses enter the blood stream thru the gumline. If you're gumline is infected, prone to bleeding, or you don't floss well, chances are the risk is increased for any potential infection.
  • vjay

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    Mar 13, 2015 4:46 PM GMT
    if you don't have sores in your mouth then let the guy cum in your mouth and swallow his cum, enjoy! I love swallowing guys' cum.icon_biggrin.gif
  • MikemikeMike

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    Mar 13, 2015 4:55 PM GMT
    vjay saidif you don't have sores in your mouth then let the guy cum in your mouth and swallow his cum, enjoy! I love swallowing guys' cum.icon_biggrin.gif


    And swallowing doughnuts I see. Read more men! Educationknowledge is power! Get your advice from a Real Doc not a real jock, or any other men who have never seen the inside of a gym and have no sense of being safe and little to no concern for the rest of society and future generations of young gay men.
  • vjay

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    Mar 14, 2015 1:19 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^ A bit over the top response there Mikex3. icon_rolleyes.gif


    he he, tks muchmore
    I like pie and icecream. looking for a better picture that makes my stomach look flatter, lol. i am skinny fat! my bf is ht/wt proportionate, he has blue eyes.
  • casey

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    Sep 14, 2015 8:36 AM GMT
    It is safe if that person is clear form STD.

    I know somebody got Throat Gonorrhea or Throat Chlamydia...

    http://www.drtanandpartners.com/more-info-on-throat-gonorrhea/
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    Sep 14, 2015 6:05 PM GMT
    Swallowing is perfectly safe. If you get overly excited and tend to bite, that is not so safe.
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    Sep 14, 2015 7:33 PM GMT
    casey saidIt is safe if that person is clear form STD.

    I know somebody got Throat Gonorrhea or Throat Chlamydia...

    http://www.drtanandpartners.com/more-info-on-throat-gonorrhea/

    Hook me up with your idiot friends who swallow homeless dudes loads.
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    Sep 14, 2015 7:41 PM GMT
    Like the others have said "safe" is an illusion... there's always risk.

    You can minimize the risk... but that's your action to take.

    Personally, I've never blown a stranger... and I've never let someone shoot in my mouth without having gotten tested. And before anyone gets all spun up on the concepts of precum... I know the risks, and took the chances.

    To date, I'm still 100% STD free and negative.

    Be safe.
  • SubBttmBoy

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    Dec 02, 2016 7:14 PM GMT
    You guys are making me paranoid.

    I've swallowed a few loads. Hottest thing ever, but I know a guys past first.