Body Fat Percentage for Abs

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    Jan 14, 2009 12:44 AM GMT
    I was just wondering, for those of you who have nice, looking, and showing abs, what is your body fat percentage? Or in what range do you think you need to be at in order to have and see your abs?
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    Jan 14, 2009 1:39 AM GMT
    I've been told that six packs don't show up until body fat gets down to 10% or less.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:06 AM GMT
    You'll start to really see abs at about 8%.

    A competing bodybuilder will often hit the stage at around 4%, or even 3%.

    Here I am, 8 weeks from The Lonestar Classic, at around 6%.

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    Here I am again, at about 4%, but "spilling" a bit...pre show.

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    And, at about 191, 5'5", 5%, but, on a crappy cam....

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    Water balance can change the way you look in a marked way.

    Here's Lind Walter at around 4% to 5%, and nicely dried out. (If he was just a bit leaner he'd have more veins across his abs.)

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    Here's Armon Adibi at around 5% to 6% and dry to the bone.

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    Jan 14, 2009 4:10 AM GMT
    I can barely see mine right now and I'm sitting at 12%. Get down to 8% and I start getting better lines, but they don't get real defined until I hit 6%.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:19 AM GMT
    I'm curious how you guys are measuring body fat. I use one of the Tanita scales and am wondering if those give results comparable with other means.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:21 AM GMT
    Vo2 displacement and water is the best. I've had it done several times.

    In very lean, or very dry subjects, the little electric galvanometers go berserk.

    I've been in contest shape with a BMI of 29, or a fat test of 25%, which is completely messed up.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:23 AM GMT
    Wow thanks Chuckystud; those are some amazing comparisons; fascinating what body fat % & water weight modulation influence.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:30 AM GMT
    SO is this true or not... I'm not shooting for competition abs... but this is what was suggested:

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    Myth #1 - Fat Makes you Fat. This is a diet tip but it's a very common misconception. Consuming more calories than you burn makes you gain weight. Eating fat does NOT make you fat. The thing is, you need to know which fat to eat. You can't go around eating donuts and cookies. You do, however, need to make sure your diet consists of a good amount of nuts, extra virgin olive oil, avocados and other non-saturated fats. These will help melt the fat off of your abs to reveal that six pack you want.
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    Myth #2 - You can spot reduce the fat on your stomach by doing hundreds of crunches and sit-ups a night. This is simply not true. There is no way to get rid of the fat in one area of your body. All you can do is eat right and exercise and the fat will come off of your body usually in the same order you gain fat. For most people, the layer over the abs is the last to go.
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    Myth #3 - You need to work your abs every day or you'll never see them. This ties in with #2. You do not need to do hundreds of sit-ups/crunches and you don't even need to work your abs every day. They're just like any other muscle and they need time to rest. You can work them 2-3 times a week and still have perfect abs. Overdoing it will not make them look better.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:36 AM GMT
    justinono saidSO is this true or not... I'm not shooting for competition abs... but this is what was suggested:

    Step
    1
    Myth #1 - Fat Makes you Fat. This is a diet tip but it's a very common misconception. Consuming more calories than you burn makes you gain weight. Eating fat does NOT make you fat. The thing is, you need to know which fat to eat. You can't go around eating donuts and cookies. You do, however, need to make sure your diet consists of a good amount of nuts, extra virgin olive oil, avocados and other non-saturated fats. These will help melt the fat off of your abs to reveal that six pack you want.
    Step
    2
    Myth #2 - You can spot reduce the fat on your stomach by doing hundreds of crunches and sit-ups a night. This is simply not true. There is no way to get rid of the fat in one area of your body. All you can do is eat right and exercise and the fat will come off of your body usually in the same order you gain fat. For most people, the layer over the abs is the last to go.
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    Myth #3 - You need to work your abs every day or you'll never see them. This ties in with #2. You do not need to do hundreds of sit-ups/crunches and you don't even need to work your abs every day. They're just like any other muscle and they need time to rest. You can work them 2-3 times a week and still have perfect abs. Overdoing it will not make them look better.


    Calories are our friends, and spark a hotter flame in our metabolic furnace, the human body.

    1. Fat does NOT make you fat. Sugar, grease, inactivity, and excess calories make you fat. You need mono-unsaturated, and poly-unsaturated fat for good health.

    2. Wrong. Abs are a function of body fat %, whether you weigh 80 pounds or 280 pounds. Spot reduction does not work.

    3. Yes. Right. No point in over-training abs. In fact, if you overwork your abs, you'll get "blocky" and ruin your lines.
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    Jan 14, 2009 4:48 AM GMT
    Anyone else ever notice the only guys to spend an hour on their abs a day usually don't have any?
  • MuslDrew

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    Jan 14, 2009 5:51 AM GMT
    I have to get down to 6% to see mine
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    Jan 14, 2009 6:05 AM GMT
    heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey !!!!!!


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    i just measured last Friday my BFP and i got a 7.58% ... which is lets say****LOW******

    but u know what i still cant see my abs........and i dont know what to do.

    i think abs are proportional to the muscle mass in the abdomen

  • MikemikeMike

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    Jan 14, 2009 9:09 AM GMT
    When I was young I had em naturally from being active and playing alot of sports. Now I would have to be under 8%. I'm 12% now, but look and feel better at 5'11 174 31w.
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    Jan 20, 2009 11:37 PM GMT
    wow. thanks for all of your input. it gives me some goal to aim for now. i guess i have to try to aim and get my body fat down to 10% and below. i'm at 15 percent right now. so i still have a long way to go.
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    Jan 20, 2009 11:44 PM GMT
    yeah and also the food you eat makes a difference.... im not as lean as i used to be but im getting there... Ifinditharder to get that low in percentage now that im bulking. Hoping that in a few weeks ill start to cut again and add cardio everyday instead of three 20 min sessions...)
  • Anto

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    Jan 21, 2009 2:09 AM GMT
    I think the biggest component is genetics/body type. It's not the same for everyone which also makes it unrealistic in my opinion to think everyone can have the same kind of washboard abs they see on models or even on regular people who may not do anything at all and still have them by just trying to achieve some specific number of body fat percentage.

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    Jan 21, 2009 2:15 AM GMT
    I have 6% body fat and I can't see my abs. I have had it tested by 3 people with two different calipers brands and they all used same formula once and then each a different one but I have always measured around 6-7 but still no abs icon_sad.gif
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    Jan 21, 2009 2:22 AM GMT
    You can have a water test done (VO2).

    If you look like the picture, you're nowhere near the value they say you are. Closer to 10%, or even 12%, I'd guess. Because you don't carry much muscle, you throw the chart off, or, because you have a different bone structure your measurments points don't quite jive with the methodology being utilized in your test. You're clearly not 6%.

    Sometimes, folks have values that the chart doesn't understand, obviously. E.g., my BMI goes between 28 and 32, but, I'm clearly not obese.

    If you up your muscle mass through resistance training and nutrition, you'll see abs as you get leaner, and stay leaner, through the higher metabolic rate.

    You need to make sure that's you're eating enough food, in order to get lean.
  • GQjock

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    Jan 21, 2009 9:37 PM GMT
    It's definitely below 10%
    but I doubt that would even show them
    I think you need to get down to at least 8 - 6% to see them
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    Jan 21, 2009 9:41 PM GMT
    My experience has been pretty much anything below 9% and they will show, but diet plays an enormous role in it all. The right kind and frequency of exercise plays a secondary role and of course the right amount of cardio.
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    Jan 21, 2009 9:44 PM GMT
    I'm 20% fat, 30% oreo cookies, 35% brownies, 10% muscle and 5% love.

    I can see some abs, though. just not mine...
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    Jan 21, 2009 9:54 PM GMT
    Where have you been?