ISIS Beheads British Humanitarian Aid Worker

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    Sep 14, 2014 3:42 PM GMT
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    "The terror army ISIS has released a video titled “A Message to Allies of America” showing the beheading of British aid worker David Haines.

    Haines was 44-years-old, has two daughters and dedicated his life to helping refugees.

    He was taken captive in Syria last year and the terror army has been threatening to kill him since beheading American journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff.

    It appears the same ISIS terrorist who killed Foley and Sotloff also killed Haines.

    ISIS has threatened to continue their killing spree and have another British citizen in their custody as a hostage.

    http://cowboybyte.com/33358/isis-beheads-british-humanitarian-aid-worker/

    http://youtu.be/QUvqPgYC4U0



    Evidence mounts that Maobama waited about 30 days to approve the failed attempt to rescue ISIS hostages, including Foley and Sotloff, after the military reported actionable intelligence on their whereabouts, planned the mission, and asked for authorization.

    By that time the hostages had been moved.

    Evidence mounts that after the Maobama regime publicized the failed rescue attempt, ISIS dispersed all the hostages it is holding.

    Do supporters of Maobama's evil foreign and domestic policies feel blood on their hands yet?
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    Sep 14, 2014 4:17 PM GMT
    The only place this 'evidence' is mounting is in your vivid imagination.

    Shame on you for exploiting the deaths of innocent people just to promote your increasingly bizarre view of the world.
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    Sep 14, 2014 5:32 PM GMT
    jockfever, It's time for you to get help. It's one thing to believe that this president isn't capable of the job...but you and a few others here have gone insane.

    And to repeat Ex_Mil8

    Shame on you for exploiting the deaths of innocent people just to promote your increasingly bizarre view of the world.
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    Sep 14, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
    jockfever saidEvidence mounts that Maobama waited about 30 days to approve the failed attempt to rescue ISIS hostages, including Foley and Sotloff, after the military reported actionable intelligence on their whereabouts, planned the mission, and asked for authorization.

    By that time the hostages had been moved.

    Evidence mounts that after the Maobama regime publicized the failed rescue attempt, ISIS dispersed all the hostages it is holding.

    Do supporters of Maobama's evil foreign and domestic policies feel blood on their hands yet?

    jockfever - info to back up your OP. Ignore Obama's defenders.

    Senior Pentagon Officials Say Obama Hesitated On James Foley Rescue Mission
    http://dailycaller.com/2014/08/29/senior-pentagon-officials-say-obama-hesitated-on-james-foley-rescue-mission/

    Anthony Shaffer, a former lieutenant-colonel in US military intelligence who worked on covert operations, said: “I’m told it was almost a 30-day delay from when they said they wanted to go to when he finally gave the green light. They were ready to go in June to grab the guy [Foley] and they weren’t permitted.”
    http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-hesitated-james-foley-rescue-report-2014-8

    Obama Delayed Foley Rescue By A Month, Fretting Over His Image If It Failed
    http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/08/25/obama-delayed-foley-rescue-month-fretting-over-his-image-if-it-failed
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    Sep 14, 2014 9:53 PM GMT
    Thanks topathlete, for making RJ a better site.

    Ex-mil and Determinate, on the other hand, only provide more evidence for RJ Forum Corollary 1a:

    RJ Forum Corollary 1a: Leftist whack-jobs are the first to libel the sanity of others.

    The Left can't be bothered by facts, evidence, and logic.

    They are too dazzled by their ignorant smugness.
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 14, 2014 10:44 PM GMT
    jockfever saidThanks topathlete, for making RJ a better site.

    Ex-mil and Determinate, on the other hand, only provide more evidence for RJ Forum Corollary 1a:

    RJ Forum Corollary 1a: Leftist whack-jobs are the first to libel the sanity of others.

    The Left can't be bothered by facts, evidence, and logic.

    They are too dazzled by their ignorant smugness.


    Ahh so we're now onto "left wing is better than right wing"/"right wing is better than left wing"...Good to know nothing has changed in terms of political discourse - and that serious issues like this are crudely placed into a dichotomy of left vs right (which is a dichotomy incompatible with the issue of terrorism anyway)...and due to this, we simply descend into farce and ad hominem attacks.

    Anyway. The situation is very disturbing and there's a good VICE documentary on it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUjHb4C7b94

    It's also worth noting that whilst all this stuff about ISIS is happening, other religious militia sects are attempting to form caliphates - most prominently Boko Haram is attempting to form a caliphate in Africa, but there seems to be a media-blackout concerning this (because journalists are spending the majority of their time on the situation in Iraq/Syria/The Levant).

    The Lord's Resistance Army is also still active: hacking, chopping and killing in an attempt to create what we could crudely term a "Catholic Caliphate" (they're a group who wish to base a society based on the 10 commandments, and are running around dismembering people's faces and kidnapping children to make them child soldiers). And that's right, you guessed it: the situation in Liberia is still totally fucked.

    Essentially, religious extremism will never end - nothing seems to be resolved, and all we can see are dismembered bodies, crying mothers and blood-splattered regions. Yay for humanity.
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 14, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
    In light of the horrific vomiting of barbarism occurring in the middle-east at the moment, this debate is very relevant:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh34Xsq7D_A

    "Is Islam a Religion of Peace?" is the title of the debate.

    Substantially heated...and as always Maajid Nawaz and Douglas Murray are excellent public speakers.
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 15, 2014 12:16 AM GMT
    Here's a debate with the same title, but with different debaters: Christopher Hitchens vs Tariq Ramadan.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMraxhd9Z9Q

    As always, The Hitch is on top form
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    Sep 15, 2014 1:01 AM GMT
    This topic is about the reportedly needless deaths of Foley, Sotloff, and Haines.

    Perhaps you'd care to address the question: how many more innocent people must die needlessly due to the evil clown in the White House and the stupid Liberals who support him?

    And since you're such a fan of YouTube videos, how about this one?



    http://youtu.be/QUvqPgYC4U0
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 15, 2014 11:17 AM GMT
    jockfever saidThis topic is about the reportedly needless deaths of Foley, Sotloff, and Haines.

    Perhaps you'd care to address the question: how many more innocent people must die needlessly due to the evil clown in the White House and the stupid Liberals who support him?

    And since you're such a fan of YouTube videos, how about this one?



    http://youtu.be/QUvqPgYC4U0


    Well I'm deeply sorry if my contribution to this thread has aggravated you in anyway (I thought the YouTube videos I provided were relevant since we're in part discussing Islamic extremism - but obviously you only wish this thread, and indeed most threads to bash Obama). icon_rolleyes.gif

    Either way, let's divulge into semantics. Yes I know when you say Liberals you mean the democrat party and its supporters but an actual Liberal (in the ideological sense) wouldn't support Obama considering the fact that he's a war criminal, and has undeservedly gained the Nobel Peace Prize (along with other people who shouldn't have gained the prize such as Henry Kissinger).

    Anyway, if it'd somehow please your ego, I'll go ahead and say it since you wish everyone to say it anyway:

    OBAMA IS SHIT.

    Happy now?
























    (I'm not being ironic, I genuinely dislike Obama)
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 15, 2014 12:11 PM GMT
    Here's a profile on the next potential victim, Alan Henning:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/14/alan-henning-isis-syria-hostage-aid-worker

    "The latest western hostage to be threatened with murder by Islamic State militants is a taxi driver from north-west England who fell into the group's hands after joining a group of Muslim friends on an aid convoy to Syria.

    Alan Henning, described by friends as "a big man with a big heart", volunteered to join the humanitarian mission last Christmas after helping to raise funds to purchase the medical equipment that the convoy was taking into the country.

    The vehicles were halted by masked gunmen after crossing the Turkish border and Henning, 47, was separated from his friends, according to accounts they gave to journalists after they were released by the group and able to return to Britain.

    Since then, they and Henning's family have remained silent about his plight, at the suggestion of the UK Foreign Office (FCO), while behind-the-scenes attempts were made to negotiate his release."
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    Sep 15, 2014 12:22 PM GMT
    He can deal with the consequences (death) of his actions. It's obviously muslims are barbarians, so when you decide to go to a region like that, you signed your own death warrant.
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    Sep 15, 2014 1:58 PM GMT
    jaroslav123: The Lord's Resistance Army is also still active: hacking, chopping and killing in an attempt to create what we could crudely term a "Catholic Caliphate" (they're a group who wish to base a society based on the 10 commandments, and are running around dismembering people's faces and kidnapping children to make them child soldiers)...

    Why mention a small, obscure group, known to almost no one outside of Uganda?

    Because the Left's disordered mentality likes to pretend that there is some other form of religious extremism which is comparable to Islamic savagery.

    The "Catholic Caliphate" comment is absurd. The LRA has attacked Catholics, including Catholic churches on Holy Days.

    The Left's peculiar affinity for radical Islam can probably be explained by the fact that both the Left and radical Islam share a vision of destroying Western Civilization.

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    Sep 15, 2014 3:02 PM GMT
    The stupid is strong in this topic. Jockie, have you read what the beheader said when he executed the second man? No? Well you should. It explains the beheadings were in retaliation for Obama's successful efforts.

    You have a president that knows how to play chess. You, apparently, don't. Your yee haw approach to dealing with this problem would likely be entertaining but completely ineffectual, at which point it would become horrible.
  • tj85016

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    Sep 15, 2014 3:23 PM GMT
    Bush wasn't as smart meninlove - and he lost big twice (in Iraq and Afganistan)

    kinda like those morons McCain and Lindsay Graham
  • jaroslav123

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    Sep 15, 2014 4:43 PM GMT
    jockfever saidjaroslav123: The Lord's Resistance Army is also still active: hacking, chopping and killing in an attempt to create what we could crudely term a "Catholic Caliphate" (they're a group who wish to base a society based on the 10 commandments, and are running around dismembering people's faces and kidnapping children to make them child soldiers)...

    Why mention a small, obscure group, known to almost no one outside of Uganda?

    Because the Left's disordered mentality likes to pretend that there is some other form of religious extremism which is comparable to Islamic savagery.

    The "Catholic Caliphate" comment is absurd. The LRA has attacked Catholics, including Catholic churches on Holy Days.

    The Left's peculiar affinity for radical Islam can probably be explained by the fact that both the Left and radical Islam share a vision of destroying Western Civilization.



    Did I say ISIS and The LRA were comparable in size? No.
    The catholic caliphate comment isn't absurd - that's their intention...they wish to form a state based on the creed of catholocism.

    And your comment concerning the LRA murdering other catholics. Has it not even occurred to you that ISIS also kills muslims?

    I fail to see how this has anything to do with a left-right dichotomy. Your obsession with randomly applying left-wing vs right-wing into every issue is very frustrating and hardly aids a conversation.

    Also, I think it verges on satire how you view the politics I hold to be similar to the politics of a group of people hacking people's heads off. I don't wish to destroy western civilisation. It'd be like me saying "the right wishes to destroy eastern civilisation by drone-bombing innocent Iraqis". I know that most sane right-wing people (including yourself) probably don't hold this opinion, so stop steeping to low levels by saying the left and jihadi Islam have anything in similar.

    Stop using insane superlatives and exaggerations - it's detrimental to political discourse.