Some Disturbing Medical Symptoms, Don't Know What's Going On - Suggestions?

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    Sep 14, 2014 10:12 PM GMT
    Slept in to around 9:30 this morning, and woke to find myself covered in sweat, my side of the bed soaked. I was too weak to get up, could barely move. I assumed my husband was on the outside patio, reading the Sunday paper. I was able to reach my phone on the night table, and hoped he'd have his with him.

    He answered right away, and all I could do was croak a feeble: "Help me, help me." He was next to me in a flash, and when he saw my condition he brought towels and started wiping me down (I sleep naked). He said every inch of me was drenched. Then he helped me to roll over to his dry side of the bed.

    We took my temperature, and I had none. I mean nothing! The classic mercury oral thermometer didn't move. We kept retrying, and it didn't even reach the scale, which begins at 96 F on this one, so I was somewhere below that. All that sweating must have chilled me, but I certainly had no fever. The house is kept at 77 F.

    Nor did I have a headache, nor any pains other than my usual assortment. There was no nausea or stomach cramps, no indications of food poisoning. Though I did think maybe some slight numbness in my hands and one foot. Breathing seemed OK.

    I requested some tea to try to perk me up, and my husband also got me water, along with some toast. I had no trouble keeping them down, though I had to drink them with a bendable straw, still too weak to want to sit up. He was prepared to dial 911 but I asked him to wait.

    He stayed with me and I soon fell back to sleep, until nearly 2 PM. By then my temperature was a more normal 98.0, and was 98.5 an hour ago, when I finally got out of bed, after more periods of sleep. My hands are both visibly trembling as I'm typing this, difficult to use the trackpad, but I was getting bored, wanted to check the online news and get off my back.

    We'll go to the doctor tomorrow. The ER is still a possibility before then, however, if this worsens. I just hate ERs, and especially on Sundays. When studies have shown hospital care is the worst.

    Has anyone ever heard of symptoms like these before? I don't think I have a cold, it doesn't act like food poisoning, took all my meds on time as usual, and I wasn't drunk last night, making this merely a massive morning-after hangover (I know someone here who would love to make that claim). Just to give me some ideas, because I know online advice can't match a doctor seeing me. Thanks!
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    Sep 14, 2014 11:20 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    It could be anything - from a reaction to a flu shot, to one of those exotic viruses working their way across the country due to Obama allowing unimpeded illegal immigration on an unprecedented scale across our southern border.

    Trembling hands is such an unusual symptom - you should seriously consider a trip to the ER. Not fun, but perhaps prudent in this situation.

    My flu shot was 9 days ago. But you're the one with symptoms of a severe reaction - to Obama. icon_wink.gif

    My most serious concern is something cardiac. My late Father had profuse sweats during each of his heart attacks, which were the "slow" kind, coming on gradually and deceptively, not the classic sudden kind. But I don't have his heavy belching, another sign.

    Whereas my husband had sweats and did belch, a peculiar deep kind I recognized from my Father and which got my attention. And led to his bypass surgery in the earliest stages leading up to a heart attack, which the doctors said he was on the verge of having.

    So that's something I am thinking about, but neither do I want to be a hypochondriac. And rush to the ER too soon to be sent home with aspirins.
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    Sep 14, 2014 11:41 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Talk about gratitude! So far you've had over 30 views of this topic and I was the only one brave enough to reply to you, despite the fact that it was highly likely you would write some nasty response.

    Yeah, I shoulda been grateful to you for hijacking another of my threads to make one more of your "brave" daily anti-Obama statements. That was your true intent, not any concern over my health. You would be genuinely brave if you admitted your tactics once in a while.
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 15, 2014 12:09 AM GMT
    Damn. It actually sounds like a diabetic attack. But I don't have much experiece in these things. Do give yourself the aspirin and hydrate like crazy. Maybe juice and some carbs and protein. Good luck and let us know.
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    Destinharbor saidDamn. It actually sounds like a diabetic attack. But I don't have much experiece in these things. Do give yourself the aspirin and hydrate like crazy. Maybe juice and some carbs and protein. Good luck and let us know.

    Actually some of our friends here have suggested a diabetic incident, which I thought unlikely. But I used to have low blood sugar (hypoglycemia) in my 20s & 30s, which seemed to clear up, aided by eating smaller meals more often.

    But yeah, I'd get bad shakes from it, and become fall-down weak, but no sweats I can recall. I'd take some orange juice for it. But it would quickly pass, and this time I'm still very weak 12 hours later.

    I will definitely raise this with my doctor tomorrow. And as I said a number of our friends have phoned today, also mentioning a diabetic thing. They became concerned when word got around that my husband had abruptly cancelled attendance at today's standing monthly brunch with some of them.
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    Sep 15, 2014 1:07 AM GMT
    My aunt was falling down and fainting because she'd been too diligent at reducing her salt intake. She went to the ER and they did some blood tests and her sodium level was dangerously low. They immediately put her on an IV to get it up to normal.
  • ASHDOD

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    Sep 15, 2014 11:25 AM GMT
    you dont have to be diabitic to have a low sugar level occasionaly.
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    Sep 15, 2014 1:39 PM GMT
    Thanks. What are B-symptoms?
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    Sep 15, 2014 5:33 PM GMT
    I think you should get checked out ASAP don't be stubburn! Your situation could change in an instant. Better be safe than sorry! Check your blood pressure. I am a first responder!
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    Sep 15, 2014 5:59 PM GMT
    bk11789 saidI think you should get checked out ASAP don't be stubburn! Your situation could change in an instant. Better be safe than sorry! Check your blood pressure. I am a first responder!


    I agree. For example, if this were some stroke-related incident, there is a very short window of time in which to administer the treating medication (as within an hour or so.) You're a mass of medical histrionics anyway, so it behooves you to get a qualified medical opinion ASAP.
  • ursa_minor

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    Sep 15, 2014 7:38 PM GMT
    there are a host of disorders that match your symptoms, especially if they become recurrent. and some of these can be serious:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_sweats
    (not here to scare you, and I'm no doctor)
    Please have it checked by your doc to be sure.
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    Sep 15, 2014 11:35 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco saidSlept in to around 9:30 this morning, and woke to find myself covered in sweat, my side of the bed soaked. I was too weak to get up, could barely move. I assumed my husband was on the outside patio, reading the Sunday paper. I was able to reach my phone on the night table, and hoped he'd have his with him.

    He answered right away, and all I could do was croak a feeble: "Help me, help me." He was next to me in a flash, and when he saw my condition he brought towels and started wiping me down (I sleep naked). He said every inch of me was drenched. Then he helped me to roll over to his dry side of the bed.

    We took my temperature, and I had none. I mean nothing! The classic mercury oral thermometer didn't move. We kept retrying, and it didn't even reach the scale, which begins at 96 F on this one, so I was somewhere below that. All that sweating must have chilled me, but I certainly had no fever. The house is kept at 77 F.

    Nor did I have a headache, nor any pains other than my usual assortment. There was no nausea or stomach cramps, no indications of food poisoning. Though I did think maybe some slight numbness in my hands and one foot. Breathing seemed OK.

    I requested some tea to try to perk me up, and my husband also got me water, along with some toast. I had no trouble keeping them down, though I had to drink them with a bendable straw, still too weak to want to sit up. He was prepared to dial 911 but I asked him to wait.

    He stayed with me and I soon fell back to sleep, until nearly 2 PM. By then my temperature was a more normal 98.0, and was 98.5 an hour ago, when I finally got out of bed, after more periods of sleep. My hands are both visibly trembling as I'm typing this, difficult to use the trackpad, but I was getting bored, wanted to check the online news and get off my back.

    We'll go to the doctor tomorrow. The ER is still a possibility before then, however, if this worsens. I just hate ERs, and especially on Sundays. When studies have shown hospital care is the worst.

    Has anyone ever heard of symptoms like these before? I don't think I have a cold, it doesn't act like food poisoning, took all my meds on time as usual, and I wasn't drunk last night, making this merely a massive morning-after hangover (I know someone here who would love to make that claim). Just to give me some ideas, because I know online advice can't match a doctor seeing me. Thanks!


    I am sorry you are under the weather.

    It could be anything - from a reaction to a flu shot, to one of those exotic viruses working their way across the country due to Obama allowing unimpeded illegal immigration on an unprecedented scale across our southern border.

    Trembling hands is such an unusual symptom - you should seriously consider a trip to the ER. Not fun, but perhaps prudent in this situation.


    You truly are a horrible person. You can't even pretend to respond to a fellow member's health concern without shoving your Obama hate in there. You really need to see someone.
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    Sep 15, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
    Art, you can always go to the ER now, and keep your appointment with your regular doctor tomorrow. Why take chances when the symptoms (could be) something severe?
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    Sep 16, 2014 1:37 AM GMT
    Most definitely see a doctor ASAP! Hope you feel better soon. Don't delay. This isn't a situation when you ought to "wait and see".
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    TerraFirma saidMost definitely see a doctor ASAP! Hope you feel better soon. Don't delay. This isn't a situation when you ought to "wait and see".


    Agreed. It looks like it's been a couple days (though the RJ server time always messes with me) and it looks like you've been posting elsewhere, so I hope all is well. Did you see a doctor? Are you OK?
  • Destinharbor

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    Sep 16, 2014 3:12 PM GMT
    Anyone hear how he's doing?
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    Sep 16, 2014 3:27 PM GMT
    It says he's online but he could have also just left his computer open. Anyone have any updates on his condition?
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    Sep 16, 2014 4:12 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidIt says he's online but he could have also just left his computer open. Anyone have any updates on his condition?

    I'll give you one myself! icon_biggrin.gif

    And apologize I hadn't revisted this thread since yesterday. Destinharbor just PE'd me and told me I better get over here!

    My strange symptoms are finally easing up. But now my husband may be showing some. And we've learned that some local guys we know had nearly the same as me in the last 2 weeks, and in one case even worse. Could it have been a virus after all?

    Though certainly not the biological warfare that southbeach believes Obama is waging against us, using his army of invading refugee children. Perhaps just this season's flu strain, striking a little early this year.

    Still puzzling that it lacked many of the more severe flu symptoms. Perhaps my flu shot minimized it, which is exactly what the vaccine can do.

    Since I had only gotten the shot 9-10 days before, maybe my full immunity had not yet taken effect. I've researched online and apparently it takes an entire 2 weeks to become fully effective. So maybe our flu shots were late by just a few days - bad timing!

    I've got a call into our doctor (still can't get an appointment), and asked to speak with his nurse. Is this going around, do they know what it is? And what do they recommend? Make an appointment, home remedies, get something from the pharmacy, maybe they can prescribe something? Although I know nothing much works against a virus, you just try to ease the symptoms.

    But damn, I haven't had anything like that in my life, with just the sweats, chills, profound weakness and trembling. But that's what these other guys had, some also with headache, stomach cramp, nausea, fever, which would be more like the flu, stuff that I did not have.
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    Sep 16, 2014 6:03 PM GMT
    There are all kinds of viruses that aren't influenza. And minor bacterial infections transmitted through food and water. Impossible to pinpoint from a general symptom or two. (Though if many people are getting it, that's a good clue.) For a young healthy person, chances are it will be long gone by the time one can get an appointment to see a doctor.

    But if you've got cascading health problems and you have the means, certainly follow up with your doctor. Even an otherwise minor infection can send some chronic conditions (e.g. diabetes) into a life-threatening state. That's what triggered several months-long hospital stays for my Mother, including the final one.
  • FRE0

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    Sep 16, 2014 6:32 PM GMT
    We often read recommendations to see your doctor if certain symptoms occur. Advertisements for various medications repeat this advice constantly. They mistakenly assume that everyone can see his doctor immediately. If I called today (16 September) to make an appointment, I'd be told that the next available appointment is on 15 December or something like that. If I stated that I needed to see a doctor sooner, I'd be directed to an emergency room where I'd probably have to wait at least four hours in a noisy brightly illuminated room with children running around.
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    Sep 16, 2014 6:53 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    Though certainly not the biological warfare that southbeach believes Obama is waging against us, using his army of invading refugee children. Perhaps just this season's flu strain, striking a little early this year.


    Or perhaps you did catch a more exotic virus brought over by the thousands crossing our southern border illegally.



    Art_Deco saidI've got a call into our doctor (still can't get an appointment)


    As a former U.S. Colonel, why don't you take advantage of the excellent government-provided facilities at the VA for your healthcare needs? Remember, the government does healthcare best! icon_wink.gif


    As always, your compassion and empathy is remarkable.
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    Sep 16, 2014 7:45 PM GMT
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    As always, your compassion and empathy is remarkable.

    And also as always, SB's poison arrow misses its mark.

    I used the VA exclusively for many years, and got good care, until SB's hero GW Bush ruined it. By the time I relocated here to Florida I could barely get any care at all. Long appt. scheduling delays, terrible treatment. And you may recall, the Miami hospital, where I had been treated a few times, was found to have infected vets with HIV who were getting colonoscopies.

    Where I was being pressured to have the procedure myself at that exact same time. But refused it because I didn't trust the VA anymore. That decision may have saved me from contracting HIV.

    Any wonder I had no further interest in dealing with the VA? Plus they moved our small local clinic out of nearby Oakland Park, that I could reach by bicycle, to a 45-minute drive away. Enough already.

    But being 100% disabled I had other options. And today I have a Florida Blue Cross Medicare Plan that costs me nothing for almost everything I need, including my meds.

    I pay no premiums, nothing for the plan. And very small deductibles for certain procedures and surgeries. I even get free gym membership in any of dozens of gyms all over this area, which I'm using. And got the same for my husband.

    The only thing I might use the VA for again are my hearing aids, which are free from them, but with a deductible through Blue Cross. The units come from the same manufacturers. But even though any surgeries would be free from the VA, I would rather pay the Blue Cross deductible, and choose the competent doctor I want, as I did with my cancer treatment.

    So let southbeach take his jabs, I'm not hurting. I have a local (gay) doctor for free who's a bike ride away. I get my free meds where I shop for groceries, literally walking distance away. I don't need the VA System.
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    Sep 16, 2014 8:09 PM GMT
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    Art_Deco said
    I used the VA exclusively for many years, and got good care, until SB's hero GW Bush ruined it. By the time I relocated here to Florida I could barely get any care at all. Long appt. scheduling delays, terrible treatment.

    And Obama has had 6 years to fix things, and instead of doing that, he has done nothing. In fact, things have gotten worse.
    Art_Deco said
    But being 100% disabled I had other options.

    I question the criteria used for designating a person "100% disabled" when said person bikes 150+ miles to Key West each year.

    Obama could fix little against Republican opposition in Congress. The "Party of No", remember? That was their strategy. Make Obama fail, fuck the American people, get themselves back in power. "Party First, People Second"

    You shortchange me. I ride 165 miles, not 150. But here's how it's done:

    First, some years I don't ride, I do crew. My health is variable, I often don't know until a week before if I can really ride. But I still sign up, and raise the money all riders must earn in order to participate.

    Second, my mobility is enhanced on a bicycle. I call it my "2-wheeled wheelchair". I have trouble walking, but a bicycle is easier for me. Mainly because I put less pressure on my feet and leg joints while pedaling, I estimate 20-25 pounds, compared to when my entire body weight is resting on those joints while walking, with more impact. Plus my bike has 30 speeds, I can always maintain an ideal pedaling cadence that never has me exceeding that 20 pounds pedal pressure.
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    Sep 16, 2014 8:45 PM GMT
    One thing I will say for the VA is that they are generous at handing out hardware. Regarding the question of "when is it time to go to the emergency room," one of the gadgets that they gave to my Mom was a crude telemedicine device. Sadly, it was pretty much a failure, mostly because it was far too complicated for her to operate.

    The idea was that it was supposed to take daily data from the blood-sugar monitor, blood-pressure cuff, thermometer, plus user-input (what pills did you take today? how do you feel?) and send it all to the VA computer. Her doctor would review the charts each morning, and would have data to look at if you called. But you had to connect each gadget one at a time, navigate menus, and if all that went well, it then connected with a dial-up modem that never actually connected. (This was around 2010!)

    Maybe in the future, something like Apple's "health kit" will lead to some version of this that actually works. Like, stick your arm in the machine and push the button!
  • LJay

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    Sep 16, 2014 8:47 PM GMT
    ArtDeco, a simple glucose testing meter and some strips and a spring lancing device is available at WalMart for less than $35 total. I would get one and take you blood sugar reading on waking and before bedtime daily, at least until you can see the doctor. If this happens again, Take the reading immediately and learn how to act accordingly.

    Night sweats can mean lots of things and your doctor needs to be involved ASAP. As for him not be available for an appointment, call his office and ask who else might see you. It is had for me to believe you being so timid about this. See someone now!