Republicans Unanimously Block Equal Pay Bill

  • metta

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    Sep 16, 2014 1:34 AM GMT
    Republicans Unanimously Block Equal Pay Bill



    http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2014/09/15/3567740/republicans-paycheck-fairness-act/
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    Sep 16, 2014 1:40 AM GMT
    Wives and Husbands
    22Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-22.htm
  • tazzari

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    Sep 16, 2014 3:47 AM GMT
    randwander saidWives and Husbands
    22Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-22.htm


    Perhaps you can explain how this relates to the topic? Or actually say something?
  • hebrewman

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    Sep 16, 2014 11:00 AM GMT
    tazzari said
    randwander saidWives and Husbands
    22Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-22.htm


    Perhaps you can explain how this relates to the topic? Or actually say something?


    thank you. I was wondering the same thing.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 16, 2014 1:41 PM GMT

    Now this is where I break away from the republicans. Denying any equality in pay, job opportunities, marriage etc. The GOP needs to stop pandering to all these right wing extremists and their backward logic.
  • FRE0

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    Sep 16, 2014 6:14 PM GMT
    Theodore Roosevelt would be rolling in his grave.
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    Sep 16, 2014 6:24 PM GMT
    Theodore Roosevelt would be fine.

    An equal pay bill is irrelevant in this day and age. Statistics do not regularly compare men and women within workforces, for example:

    White House female staff make $0.88 for every dollar a White House male staff member makes. When questioned the Obama administration responded that such a comparison was unfair because of the different roles women and men tended to have working for the WH.

    That little note is left out of every propaganda piece claiming there's some stark contrast.

    Furthermore, businesses tend to hire people for their talents. In tech, women are on par or even ahead of men in many managerial roles, but there aren't as many female engineers graduating from college, and those tend to be higher-paying jobs at many tech firms when compared to a manager.

    Women outpace men in college currently, the tides are changing. Unfortunately people would rather write a bandaid law that will do little to change the landscape.

    Pull your heads out of the ground and look into statistics before blindly aligning with the party refusing to wage a "war on women."

    Let's not forget it is Democrats who paint any pro-life woman as uneducated, Democrats who worked tirelessly to tarnish the reputations of their female Republican counterparts and Democrats who pay women less than men in the White House of all places. Surprisingly Obama doesn't even need an executive order to change that discrepancy.
  • FRE0

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    Sep 16, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    tazzari said
    randwander saidWives and Husbands
    22Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ also is the head of the church, He Himself being the Savior of the body.
    http://biblehub.com/ephesians/5-22.htm


    Perhaps you can explain how this relates to the topic? Or actually say something?


    Apparently it's nothing more than a random quotation.
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    Sep 16, 2014 10:41 PM GMT
    Look behind the headline and consider the context. This was a procedural vote that required 60 votes to pass, thus the GOP could have held it up, since their minority exceeds 40. But, why, having already allowed a vote on this bill, whose generous provisions for litigation are the the GOP's chief concerns with it, did Harry Reid allow it to come up for a vote again, and as a procedural matter? As always with Demos of late, pure politics: putting the GOP on record as against not "equal pay," but this bill's version of it, with all its flaws, as well as protecting those Demos who recognize this bill's defects from having to vote against it on a majority, up-down vote. IMHO, the present laws providing for equal pay - cf. "pay parity," an entirely - and radically - different concept - between men and women are more than adequate to ensure that goal. What we don't need is more legislation than will only lead to more litigation.
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    Sep 17, 2014 2:02 AM GMT
    MGINSD saidLook behind the headline and consider the context. This was a procedural vote that required 60 votes to pass, thus the GOP could have held it up, since their minority exceeds 40. But, why, having already allowed a vote on this bill, whose generous provisions for litigation are the the GOP's chief concerns with it, did Harry Reid allow it to come up for a vote again, and as a procedural matter? As always with Demos of late, pure politics: putting the GOP on record as against not "equal pay," but this bill's version of it, with all its flaws, as well as protecting those Demos who recognize this bill's defects from having to vote against it on a majority, up-down vote. IMHO, the present laws providing for equal pay - cf. "pay parity," an entirely - and radically - different concept - between men and women are more than adequate to ensure that goal. What we don't need is more legislation than will only lead to more litigation.

    blah-blah-blah. A lot of BS rationalization to obfuscate the fact that Republicans, ONCE AGAIN, voted to block equal pay.

    Have they ever voted FOR equal pay? When THEY had majorities in both Houses of Congress? That's a more relevant and revealing question here.

    No, they have not. Nor will they. Because their Wall Street and corporate Masters oppose it. Simple as that.
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    Sep 17, 2014 2:15 AM GMT
    It's ALREADY ILLEGAL to pay women less for discriminatory reasons.

    See: Equal Pay Act signed by JFK and Lily Ledbetter Act signed by President Obama.
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    Sep 17, 2014 2:28 AM GMT
    Why didn't democrats pass the bill when they had control of congress?
  • FRE0

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    Sep 17, 2014 6:13 AM GMT
    The fact that it was unanimous is disturbing. It indicates that they are not thinking for themselves.
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    Sep 17, 2014 7:21 AM GMT
    Does anyone realize women have been legally given equal pay since Kennedy was in Office?

    http://www.nps.gov/subjects/civilrights/equal-pay-act-1963.htm

    So what are we voting on?
  • wareagle99

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    Sep 17, 2014 2:16 PM GMT
    It is already illegal to discriminate for pay based on gender. They already support equal pay for equal work. What they are against is opening things up for a bunch of civil lawsuits. Lawyers are the ones who wanted this law passed. They were the ones to benefit.
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    Sep 17, 2014 2:25 PM GMT
    pecfan saidDoes anyone realize women have been legally given equal pay since Kennedy was in Office?

    http://www.nps.gov/subjects/civilrights/equal-pay-act-1963.htm

    So what are we voting on?


    Midterm elections coming up. Dems are turning up the volume on the "war on women."
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    Sep 17, 2014 2:32 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidWhy didn't democrats pass the bill when they had control of congress?

    Because Republicans blocked it. Having a simple majority in Congress does not give total "control". Congress has procedures that can permit the minority, or even a single Senator in some cases, to block legislation that the majority backs.

    And that's exactly what just happened in the Senate with this Paycheck Fairness Act. Where the Democrats are still in "control" but Republicans voted unanimously to block it. You did read that part, didn't you?

    Democrats being in total "control" is the lie you Republicans keep telling, even while it was the Congressional Republicans who were preventing Democrats from achieving their legislative agenda throughout the Obama Administration. Make Obama and Democrats fail is their stated goal, even if it hurts the American people, then confuse the issue and blame the failure on the Democrats.

    Just like you're doing. You follow the Party line quite well. When was the last time you used your own brain?
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    Sep 17, 2014 5:34 PM GMT
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    mx5guynj saidWhy didn't democrats pass the bill when they had control of congress?

    Because Republicans blocked it. Having a simple majority in Congress does not give total "control". Congress has procedures that can permit the minority, or even a single Senator in some cases, to block legislation that the majority backs.

    And that's exactly what just happened in the Senate with this Paycheck Fairness Act. Where the Democrats are still in "control" but Republicans voted unanimously to block it. You did read that part, didn't you?

    Democrats being in total "control" is the lie you Republicans keep telling, even while it was the Congressional Republicans who were preventing Democrats from achieving their legislative agenda throughout the Obama Administration. Make Obama and Democrats fail is their stated goal, even if it hurts the American people, then confuse the issue and blame the failure on the Democrats.

    Just like you're doing. You follow the Party line quite well. When was the last time you used your own brain?


    Huh, Democrat politicians get what they want passed like obamacare without Republican support. Democrat politicians didn't want this passed so they could excite their base for a higher midterm voter turnout.