NOT impedimenta

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    Sep 29, 2007 5:32 AM GMT
    Impedimenta has been one of my favorite words. Strangely enough, I can't seem to find a concise antonym for it, but I think that we need one.

    In modern usage, impedimenta means "an obstacle to progress," but its original meaning is much richer.

    To a Roman soldier, his possessions were divided into the important things and... less important things. The important things were basically what he carried on his back: shield, sword, spear, cloak, sandals, jock strap. The... less important things were called impedimenta, and went in the baggage train: tents, couches, vases, women, children, etc.

    So today we have two tasks:

    1) What is a good word for things that are not impedimenta? And here I want a good word. Not a phrase. Not something weak. This needs to be a powerful word. Catholic school boys might search their latin for something relevant.

    2) What is in your vital kit? Things that are not impedimenta? These are things you would grab when the house is on fire. Or maybe things that are on you at all times, and who cares what happens to the house?
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    Sep 29, 2007 7:08 PM GMT
    Empowermenta
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    Sep 29, 2007 7:18 PM GMT
    Relics- Photo albums and the family silver.
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    Sep 29, 2007 7:19 PM GMT
    MYgarbaga
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    Sep 29, 2007 7:34 PM GMT
    You could always use the Greek word for vital, which is zotikos (obviously that's the English equivalent, since the actual word in Greek is ζωτικός). 'Vitals' already has a connotation, so zotikos would be a good substitute, even though it's not Latin. Since the Romans took so many of their cultural cues from the Greeks, it would be sort of an homage.

    As ridiculous as it may sound, my laptop would be in my vital kit. Almost everything important that I have is on my laptop, or accessible from my laptop. My work, my contacts, etc. It's going to be rough when I'm in some third world country where I won't have access to it. Perhaps I'll figure out it is actually part of my impedimenta.

    My hiking boots and hiking pack are absolutely part of my vital kit, without a doubt. I use both of them everyday for work, and every weekend for hiking.
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    Sep 29, 2007 7:44 PM GMT
    tough question. the closest guess i would give would be something like aequatio as in "equalizer" or "leveler," or maybe beneficium, as in "boon" or "act of grace" but with the old-school latin, it's always a tough call...
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    Sep 29, 2007 8:17 PM GMT
    Not impedimenta, but beneficia (or, not impedimentum, but beneficium)

    mindgardenimpedimenta means "an obstacle to progress"

    well, actually impedimenta is the plural. an obstacle to progress is an impedimentum.

    I would be interested in knowing when you use impedimenta?
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    Sep 29, 2007 9:28 PM GMT
    Caslon, I think it is time for another poem.
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    Sep 29, 2007 9:47 PM GMT
    I suppose that my Dad would have called things other than impedimenta, "your shit." As in "that which you get together."
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    Sep 29, 2007 10:11 PM GMT
    us, i, o, um, o
    i, orum, is, os, is

    a, ae, ae, am, a
    ae, arum, is, as, is

    um, i, o, um, o
    a, orum, is, a, is

    there, the endings make a poem.

    but when I read it, it reminds me of the old song, The Witch Doctor

    I told the witch doctor I was in love with you
    I told the witch doctor you didn't love me too
    And then the witch doctor, he told me what to do
    He said that ....

    [Chorus:]
    Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
    Walla walla, bing bang
    Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
    Walla walla, bing bang...
    Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
    Walla walla, bing bang
    Ooo eee, ooo ah ah ting tang
    Walla walla, bing bang

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    Sep 29, 2007 10:14 PM GMT
    well, does "beneficium/a" satisfy the first task?
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    Sep 29, 2007 10:25 PM GMT
    Mindgarden wrote:

    What is a good word for things that are not impedimenta?

    I think the Romans used necessaria...necessary or essential things. If that's not strong enough, we could make something up.

    and then he asked

    What is in your vital kit? Things that are not impedimenta? These are things you would grab when the house is on fire.

    In all truth, I'm going to grab something to make me decent (if I've got the presence of mind) and then I'm getting out. I would be very sorry to lose my stuff, but I'd prefer to live and get over it.
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    Sep 29, 2007 10:27 PM GMT
    Cool---latin endings inspiring a poem about a witch doctor.

    In Latin class we used to say:

    Latin is a dead language
    It's as dead as it can be
    First it killed the ancient Romans
    Now it's killing me.
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    Sep 29, 2007 11:08 PM GMT
    Latin is dead?!?!! ... icon_eek.gif

    How come I never get told these things??? ... icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 29, 2007 11:40 PM GMT
    On first read I came up with Essentials and Vitals, although Neccesaries is good too, and all have been already listed.

    When my apartment DID burn down this summer I took my Car Keys, my file safe, my wallet, cellphone and charger, my external hard drive, my passport and birth certificate (because they weren't in the safe at the time). I was lucky, I had people to support me, but it is pretty devastating to lose so many material goods, you may not NEED them but you can certainly miss their comforts when they are gone! No pity please, I'm doing fine these days, but do take time to consider your own fire safety plans!
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    Sep 30, 2007 1:01 AM GMT
    If the house were on fire the first thing I would grab is my partner Iain, then...

    The Fundamentals

    Almost always on me:

    Wallet
    Watch
    Keys
    AT&T 8525 Smartphone
    Kanguru USB Micro Drive

    In My Emergency Carry On Computer Case:

    Laptop, and packed in waterproof bags:

    Framed Photograph of Iain, my family, my cousins
    External USB 120 GB HD
    $, €, £
    AMEX Travelers checks
    Passport Wallet w checkbook and spare CC’s
    Spare Credentials and Key to Safety Deposit Boxes
    Spare Keys
    Custom S&W 1911 .45 ACP (unloaded) w/harness
    Three full clips 45 ACP
    IPod w/ charger
    World Band Radio w/ charger
    Satellite Phone w/ charger
    Laptop power cord and adapters
    Adventure Medical zone B med and suture syringe kit
    Small emergency survival kit incl compass
    Multi Tool
    6 Sports Bars
    Box of Condoms
    A half dozen aged Dunhill Cigars

    Yes, It all fits in a Carry On Computer Case.

    Yes, it drives HS absolutely freaking nuts if I haven't called ahead.

    No, you really don't want to know what I have around the corners of my regular luggage.

    No, you don't really need this stuff - until you REALLY NEED it.

    The rest, no matter the sentimental value, is just stuff.
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    MikeonMain -

    Funny, in Latin class we used to say:

    icon_lol.gif "Semper Ubi, Sub Ubi" icon_lol.gif

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    Sep 30, 2007 1:45 AM GMT
    Estne volumen in toga, an solum tibi libet me videre? .....(Is that a scroll in your toga, or are you just happy to see me?)

    Quisque comoedum est .....(Everybody is a comedian)

    Non plaudite. Modo pecuniam jacite ......(Dont applaud, just throw money)
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    Sep 30, 2007 3:02 AM GMT
    Psittacus mortuus est.
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    Sep 30, 2007 3:08 AM GMT
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    Antiquis temporibus, nati tibi similes in rupibus ventosissimis exponebantur ad necem

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    Sep 30, 2007 3:30 AM GMT
    Psittacus non mortuus est, sed quiescit. Desiderat fjordas...
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    Sep 30, 2007 2:25 PM GMT
    Si Hoc Legere Scis Nimium Eruditionis Habes

    and my favourite:

    Nunc es bibendum
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    Sep 30, 2007 3:04 PM GMT
    there, see....Latin isnt dead. It's just morphed into one liner about dead parrots and leaving your kids out to die. Ok, Ok. That might have limited its use. But techncially, it still isn't dead ... icon_lol.gif
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    Sep 30, 2007 4:20 PM GMT
    ITJock: What? No lube?
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    Sep 30, 2007 11:13 PM GMT
    Mindgarden wrote: "ITJock: What? No lube?"

    icon_lol.gif Lube you can get anywhere, and it is in my toilet kit (since you asked): You would choke if I told you what the condoms are really for...:icon_lol.gif