New CDC campaign encourages all people living with HIV to start and stay on treatment September 17, 2014

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    Sep 18, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    “Today, not only can HIV treatment save lives, it can help stop a national epidemic in its tracks,” said Jonathan Mermin, M.D., M.P.H., director of CDC’s National Center for HIV/AIDS, Viral Hepatitis, STD and TB Prevention. “Our goal is to help everyone with HIV know the tremendous health benefits treatment offers to them and the protection it provides to their partners.”

    In addition to the positive impact it can have on a person’s health and well-being, people who start and continue treatment are 96 percent less likely to transmit HIV to others. Treatment for health and prevention is a key element in CDC’s HIV prevention toolkit.

    Good to see the CDC is agreeing to my pathological plan! icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/2014/HIV-Treatment-Works-press-release.html
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    Sep 18, 2014 1:33 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said

    So all this BS about sex being safe with an undetectable poz guy is just medical talk dealing with controlled conditions. That has no application, bearing or relevance to the real world situations in which you & I actually operate. And such basic medical research shouldn't be misinterpreted to be providing guidance as to how gay men should behave sexually with each other.
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    Sep 18, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
    Rumblings are also happening with gay guys that don't even have the virus. Someone was saying we should all be on treatment. What are your, anyone's thoughts ?
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    Sep 18, 2014 5:02 PM GMT
    walloowalloo saidRumblings are also happening with gay guys that don't even have the virus. Someone was saying we should all be on treatment. What are your, anyone's thoughts ?


    You mean PrEP? It's also recommended by the CDC. Of course neither ART Therapy or PrEP prevent STDs. It's not for everyone, and you have to take it religiously or it's not effective.

    But it's very effective in preventing HIV. My opinion: if all neg guys were on PrEP and all poz guys were undetectable.....HIV/AIDS would be over.
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    Sep 19, 2014 11:03 PM GMT
    ...isn't this where someone is supposed to say, "if all guys wore condoms.....HIV/AIDS would be over." ?

    And the problem with ending HIV via PrEP is, you would need an entire generation of negative guys taking it, for decades, until no one left with the virus in their system remained to infect anyone. That's even less likely than getting people to always wear condoms or take fewer risks.

    As long as there are those who are uneducated about STD's, or those who simply don't care, these diseases will remain with us. Hell, the only infectious disease in history to ever have been eliminated is smallpox, and that required centuries of research and work.
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    Sep 19, 2014 11:49 PM GMT
    Rhi_Bran said...isn't this where someone is supposed to say, "if all guys wore condoms.....HIV/AIDS would be over." ?

    And the problem with ending HIV via PrEP is, you would need an entire generation of negative guys taking it, for decades, until no one left with the virus in their system remained to infect anyone. That's even less likely than getting people to always wear condoms or take fewer risks.

    As long as there are those who are uneducated about STD's, or those who simply don't care, these diseases will remain with us. Hell, the only infectious disease in history to ever have been eliminated is smallpox, and that required centuries of research and work.


    Yeah 30 years later, "condoms only" while great in concept it was never actualized. Only recently with TasP and PrEP have we seen:

    A 30% reduction of new HIV cases in the USA. A 41% reduction in S Africa, a 71% reduction in Botswana.

    No one has ever proposed a "PrEP only" as a program to eradicate HIV. It's a multi-pronged assault using condoms as often as possible, and with or without PrEP and/or ART Therapy.

    Essentially:
    PrEP, you can't get it.
    TasP, you can't give it.
    Some people will always use condoms (Great!)
    Some will always bareback.

    If we could get everyone to test and do whatever is appropriate (TasP, PrEP or always use condoms at a minimum) it wouldn't take 5 years.

    Difficult, yes. Impossible, NO.

    Vaccines Have Almost Totally Eliminated These 13 Infectious Diseases In The U.S.

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/22/1622871/vaccines-impact-infographic/
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    Sep 20, 2014 12:15 AM GMT
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    Rhi_Bran said...isn't this where someone is supposed to say, "if all guys wore condoms.....HIV/AIDS would be over." ?

    And the problem with ending HIV via PrEP is, you would need an entire generation of negative guys taking it, for decades, until no one left with the virus in their system remained to infect anyone. That's even less likely than getting people to always wear condoms or take fewer risks.

    As long as there are those who are uneducated about STD's, or those who simply don't care, these diseases will remain with us. Hell, the only infectious disease in history to ever have been eliminated is smallpox, and that required centuries of research and work.


    Yeah 30 years later, "condoms only" while great in concept it was never actualized. Only recently with TasP and PrEP have we seen:

    A 30% reduction of new HIV cases in the USA. A 41% reduction in S Africa, a 71% reduction in Botswana.

    No one has ever proposed a "PrEP only" as a program to eradicate HIV. It's a multi-pronged assault using condoms as often as possible, and with or without PrEP and/or ART Therapy.

    Essentially:
    PrEP, you can't get it.
    TasP, you can't give it.
    Some people will always use condoms (Great!)
    Some will always bareback.

    If we could get everyone to test and do whatever is appropriate (TasP, PrEP or always use condoms at a minimum) it wouldn't take 5 years.

    Difficult, yes. Impossible, NO.

    Vaccines Have Almost Totally Eliminated These 13 Infectious Diseases In The U.S.

    http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/02/22/1622871/vaccines-impact-infographic/


    I feel you may have missed the tongue-in-cheek tone of my reply, in that I am fully aware that "condoms only" has not worked, no more than PrEP will. If people are irresponsible or uneducated, they won't use either.

    And that data only covers the US, not the world. I was referring to diseases which have been eliminated globally, in which case yes smallpox is the only one. HIV eradication in the US will be a completely different story from eradication in, say, parts of Africa, where HIV is most prevalent and some people believe that viruses don't even exist (ala the 2014 Ebola Outbreak). So long as those founts of virus exist, and the poor education that results in high transmission continues, the virus will continue to wreak havoc.
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    Sep 20, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
    Actually some parts of Africa have done VERY well in curbing new infections!

    Better than the USA.
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    Sep 20, 2014 8:53 PM GMT
    timmm55 saidActually some parts of Africa have done VERY well in curbing new infections!

    Better than the USA.


    Yes and no. HIV infections in Africa have been going down, but it still remains that Africa contains over 70% of the world's positive population and millions of new infections crop up every year, and the density of % infected varies hugely from country to country within Africa (less than .5% in northern countries but >10% in Sub-Saharan Africa). A lot of it is based on cultural practices and access (or lack thereof) to education and therapy.

    Progress has been made but more needs to be done. Thankfully, efforts are being made to produce new affordable multifunctional antiretroviral drugs specifically to combat HIV in Africa, which would be a big step forward.
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    timmm55 saidActually some parts of Africa have done VERY well in curbing new infections!

    Better than the USA.


    Yes and no. HIV infections in Africa have been going down, but it still remains that Africa contains over 70% of the world's positive population and millions of new infections crop up every year, and the density of % infected varies hugely from country to country within Africa (less than .5% in northern countries but >10% in Sub-Saharan Africa). A lot of it is based on cultural practices and access (or lack thereof) to education and therapy.

    Progress has been made but more needs to be done. Thankfully, efforts are being made to produce new affordable multifunctional antiretroviral drugs specifically to combat HIV in Africa, which would be a big step forward.


    Absolutely!