ios8 update available for 4s and newer

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    Sep 18, 2014 1:26 PM GMT
    Recall last year, ios7 was tramatical to update to but it was worth the effort; essentially you get a whole new phone for free with the new firmware update.

    -reference the article below.
    -this article is thinking the new ios8 uses 1.1G but needs 6G to install.
    -You need to backup and along those liens will need the latest iTunes on the computer your backing up onto.
    -the firmware update is for iPhone hardware 4s and newer.
    -as with anything Apple; wait 2-3 days for the the servers to quite down, at that time they will know more if the update process has bugs.


    reference:
    http://www.macworld.co.uk/how-to/iosapps/how-update-iphone-ipad-ios-8-3451992/


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    Sep 18, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
    I updated all 4 of our devices yesterday (Wed 9-17) using iTunes on my iMac, no problems at all. I read about that free memory requirement, but we had it, and my iTunes was in fact the latest.

    I've also read that Apple made iOS8 so that even they can't access information without the device's passcode. And significantly, Apple can't even comply with an order to give the info to the NSA. That's a first for a mobile operating system.

    Not so with iCloud storage, however, including items coming from desktops. Apple can still access email and photos stored there, and might be required to if presented with a legal order. That's true for all cloud providers.
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    Sep 18, 2014 2:42 PM GMT
    I never upgraded my iPhone 5 to ios7. I did upgrade my iPad Mini and it ran slower, and I need full speed on the phone for work, so no upgrades for that.

    I am, however, pre-ordering the iPhone 6.
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    Sep 18, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidI never upgraded my iPhone 5 to ios7. I did upgrade my iPad Mini and it ran slower, and I need full speed on the phone for work, so no upgrades for that.

    I am, however, pre-ordering the iPhone 6.

    I'll be getting a 6, too. But I'm waiting until I can hold and compare both a 6 and 6+ at the Galleria Apple Store. Advantages of the 6+ are video image stabilization, that the 6 lacks, and a longer battery life. And of course the larger screen. Both 6's can have 128 GB now, which I'll get.

    But a big phone would be awkward in my pocket ("Is that your smart phone, or are yah just glad to see me?"). And I almost always carry my iPad Air anyway, making the 6+ redundant for most screen-intensive tasks except phoning. But we'll see, I'm in no rush. I'll wait until the store crowds subside.

    A side note about iPad capacity. My previous iPad had 64 GB, the maximum. I bought it an auxiliary card reader for my camera's SD card, which was also 64 GB. But it wouldn't work. I tried a smaller capacity SD card I had and it worked fine.

    Apparently the iPad, whose actual working memory is always less than the stated memory, wouldn't accept a memory device capable of a greater capacity than itself. Even when the SD card was only carrying a few pics.

    When I got our iPad Airs I went to the new 128 GB. It would accept the 64 GB camera card through the reader. Therefore, if you expect to be reading a card with your iPad, make sure its memory is greater than any card you want to use.

    Of course, many digital cameras are starting to go wireless, and may be able to transmit pics to an iPad that way, without touching the card. But I know you're big on photography, Paul, so thought I'd mention it.
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    Sep 18, 2014 4:44 PM GMT
    4S users it's best not to upgrade. Apparently the hardware is nearly 4x slower than the 5s, and iOS8 will really slow your phone down. But if you want to be compatible and up to date, give it a try. You can always reset and redownload older firmware.
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    Sep 18, 2014 5:12 PM GMT
    Yeah, probably not. Oh, wait. I don't actually have a device that supports it.

    But if I did, I wouldn't try it for a good long time, and then only on something that I didn't need for work. Apple has a long history of OS "upgrades" that break or abandon older software and hardware. Even if it's not that "old." The maddening thing is that they never announce that. They just purge all mention of those previous features from their support sites.

    Their last OSX "upgrade" broke all of my spreadsheet and report templates that I use for work. Sure I can eventually replace them, but not all at once, when I have deadlines. (Fortunately, I only "upgraded" my laptop.)

    The most money I ever spent on a computer was for a pre-USB mac tower with built-in video and audio digitizers. There were analog cameras and mics in the monitor. One day I upgraded the OS and BAM, half the computer was dead. Not one word about it on Apple's web site. It was as if that computer had never existed.

    *sigh* I actually just cleaned out the closet last weekend and put that machine (and its ginormous monitor) out with the trash.
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    Sep 18, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
    walloowalloo said4S users it's best not to upgrade. Apparently the hardware is nearly 4x slower than the 5s, and iOS8 will really slow your phone down. But if you want to be compatible and up to date, give it a try. You can always reset and redownload older firmware.
    i've upgraded my 4s to ios8 and have had no issues with it. some features run a bit faster than what it did before.
    one thing i've picked up is that some apps that require a lot of RAM will crash more than they used to.
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    Sep 18, 2014 6:29 PM GMT
    jocks_and_socks said
    walloowalloo said4S users it's best not to upgrade. Apparently the hardware is nearly 4x slower than the 5s, and iOS8 will really slow your phone down. But if you want to be compatible and up to date, give it a try. You can always reset and redownload older firmware.
    i've upgraded my 4s to ios8 and have had no issues with it. some features run a bit faster than what it did before.
    one thing i've picked up is that some apps that require a lot of RAM will crash more than they used to.
    There was a lot of anti-hype for iOS7 claiming it slowed down 4s, but I did not find it to be true at all. Both of our 4s's work great on 7. I will update to 8 in a few days. And will probably buy the iPhone6 in a few months after all the reviews and quality checks confirm its awesome.
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    Sep 18, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
    Nivek said
    jocks_and_socks said
    walloowalloo said4S users it's best not to upgrade. Apparently the hardware is nearly 4x slower than the 5s, and iOS8 will really slow your phone down. But if you want to be compatible and up to date, give it a try. You can always reset and redownload older firmware.
    i've upgraded my 4s to ios8 and have had no issues with it. some features run a bit faster than what it did before.
    one thing i've picked up is that some apps that require a lot of RAM will crash more than they used to.
    There was a lot of anti-hype for iOS7 claiming it slowed down 4s, but I did not find it to be true at all. Both of our 4s's work great on 7. I will update to 8 in a few days. And will probably buy the iPhone6 in a few months after all the reviews and quality checks confirm its awesome.
    just make sure to upgrade via itunes, that will prevent you from having to delete a bunch of apps
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    Sep 18, 2014 9:18 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidYeah, probably not. Oh, wait. I don't actually have a device that supports it.

    But if I did, I wouldn't try it for a good long time, and then only on something that I didn't need for work. Apple has a long history of OS "upgrades" that break or abandon older software and hardware. Even if it's not that "old." The maddening thing is that they never announce that. They just purge all mention of those previous features from their support sites.

    Their last OSX "upgrade" broke all of my spreadsheet and report templates that I use for work. Sure I can eventually replace them, but not all at once, when I have deadlines. (Fortunately, I only "upgraded" my laptop.)

    The most money I ever spent on a computer was for a pre-USB mac tower with built-in video and audio digitizers. There were analog cameras and mics in the monitor. One day I upgraded the OS and BAM, half the computer was dead. Not one word about it on Apple's web site. It was as if that computer had never existed.

    *sigh* I actually just cleaned out the closet last weekend and put that machine (and its ginormous monitor) out with the trash.

    This is a "favorite" issue of mine about Apple. Back when Windows XP came out I had a coworker who was an Apple fan boy and he found some web page on Microsoft's site that listed apps that were broken on Windows XP and pointed it out to me gleefully; about a dozen or so apps. In return I showed him a Mac web site, definitely not Apple's, that listed hundreds of apps and drivers that were broken by the latest Mac system (Jaguar maybe). I pointed out that the web page that I'd found was not on Apple's web site and asked him to find me anything on Apple's web site that listed what was broken by their new system; no luck with that of course.

    This is why developers abandon the Mac platofrm. When Apple's users ask Apple why an app was broken by a system update Apple's standard response is that it's the developer's problem. And since Apple is so secretive about new releases the developers are very unlikely to get a pre-release of the system to test on, unlike Microsoft who gives out developer pre-releases well in advance.
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    Sep 19, 2014 6:22 AM GMT
    Agree with Jocksandsocks, everything I've read is that those with 4Ss should not upgrade as iOS8 will slow your device down.

    I have it on my 5. Working well, as far as I can tell. Some issue with app updates, but nothing major.
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    Sep 19, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
    i really like Apple because its products are a good mix of:
    -commercial type reliability (you can get 100+ days of up time before things start to go south)
    and
    -residential complient low noise & power (little fan noise and low power usage).


    that being said; I people will be waiting in line for the new Samsung Galaxy Note4, released a mid the iPhone release season.
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    Sep 19, 2014 2:13 PM GMT
    someone's thoughts on updating an iPhone 4s with ios8
    http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/09/18/upgrading-to-ios-8-on-an-old-phone-prepare-for-trouble-but-do-it-anyway/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
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    Sep 19, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
    after 2 days of using it, there have been no major issues besides it using more battery life. this is the normal trend when they do an os upgrade and they normally sort it out within a month of release.
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    Sep 21, 2014 10:31 PM GMT
    This morning I upgraded my iPad 3 to iOS 8 and so far it's pretty stupid. My fav issues are the keyboard always hiding the cursor, so you have to manually adjust the screen to see what you type and in Safari they moved the bookmark symbol to the left of the screen again. Left, right, left again. Ugh.

    "Engineers, they love to change things."
    http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aTbwlqX6Rmg
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    Sep 22, 2014 12:31 AM GMT
    EricLA saidAgree with Jocksandsocks, everything I've read is that those with 4Ss should not upgrade as iOS8 will slow your device down.

    I have it on my 5. Working well, as far as I can tell. Some issue with app updates, but nothing major.


    When I updated my 5, I cloud stopped working and the phone would get rather hot. I rebooted it and things have settled down now.
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    Oct 01, 2014 8:11 AM GMT
    i finally updated my iPhone5 with ios8 tonight. Have not used it much but:
    -i missed out on the ios8.01 fall back
    -ios7 had a slight key press delay on the iPhone5 which is gone
    -over all nothing bad yet, seems a little faster or the same.
    -if enabled, the vpn stays on all the time

    odd
    my iPhone vpn connection works inside my home network? It should not work that way because the home vpn server is before the wifi. Is the iPhone selecting the cellular socket for vpn if the wifi socket is not connecting?