The NFL Has a Lower Rate of Domestic Violence Than the General Population

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    Sep 19, 2014 11:26 PM GMT
    The Ray Rice fiasco has made people wonder: How big is the NFL's domestic violence problem? Well, this article explains whether or not you should believe the hype:

    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/09/domestic_violence_crime_much_lower_among_nfl_players.html

    "It doesn't appear they have. Back in July, FiveThirtyEight's Benjamin Morris tallied up the incidents in USA Today's NFL Arrests Database to discern crime rates among NFL players. He then compared those numbers to the national averages among 25-29 year olds, and found the rate of domestic violence in the NFL to be 55.4% that of the general population. And the overall crime rate was a mere 13% of the national average.

    So why then do 69% of Americans believe that the NFL suffers a "widespread epidemic of domestic violence problems"? The answer is rooted in how we think. Humans are prone to rely on examples and experiences that can be easily recalled. The idea is that if we can remember it, it must be important. This mental shortcut is termed the availability heuristic. A key drawback of the heuristic is that it leads us to overestimate the prevalence of memorable events. Here, you can legitimately blame popular media. Because plane crashes are widely covered, many erroneously view flying as more dangerous than driving. Thanks to Shark Week, people are wearier of sharks than deer. Because 91% of people have seen, read, or heard something about Ray Rice's domestic violence, they overestimate the problem of domestic violence in the NFL."
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    Sep 20, 2014 1:22 PM GMT

    This study is flawed because of the tremendous disparity in numbers between the NFL football players and the rest of the US population as a whole. The NFL does have a serious problems with its employees aka football players acting up and violating the law. Everytime you pick a newspaper it is another serious incident involving an NFL football player and the greedy, corrupt NFL keeps covering it up and give these offenders a free pass. Granted the US population as a whole faces serious problems with domestic violence but you are talking a population of over 300 million people versus the number of people employed by the NFL. That is why this study is seriously flawed. It appears to be another cover up on the part of the NFL to protect their players from negative consequences and damaging publicity.
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    Sep 20, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
    I don't doubt society has a greater problem with domestic violence. What troubles most, I think, is that the reaction of the NFL was to slap the players on the wrist.
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    Sep 20, 2014 7:20 PM GMT
    So I guess NFL players should be permitted to pound their wives into pulp, until they reach some arbitrary national average? Is this what you're telling us, libertpaulian? I'm not clear about the objective of your thread.

    I would have thought ZERO tolerance for domestic violence is the goal. Do you propose some other benchmark?
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    Sep 20, 2014 7:46 PM GMT
    Also obscured is the rate of NFL players committing domestic violence is all the more lower than COPS... the very people victims are expected to call for help.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/09/police-officers-who-hit-their-wives-or-girlfriends/380329/

    Two to four times the incidence of the general population.
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    Sep 20, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    JuanPablomv89 said
    Art_Deco saidSo I guess NFL players should be permitted to pound their wives into pulp, until they reach some arbitrary national average? Is this what you're telling us, libertpaulian? I'm not clear about the objective of your thread.

    I would have thought ZERO tolerance for domestic violence is the goal. Do you propose some other benchmark?

    Should NFL should financially support their wives or every straight men responsability is to feed its childrens and wives?. Every straight woman is alliwed to hit and disrepect men without having any sort of responsability of their actions.

    Oh PUL-LEEZE! Would you just go away? Aside from the fact you can't even spell, you are justifying domestic violence. Just like go away, OK?
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    Sep 20, 2014 10:28 PM GMT
    Libertpaulian, it's an interesting study, but I agree with roadbikeRob that it's flawed. The study just compares domestic abuse arrest rates for NFL players and the general public. Arrest rates and crime rates are not the same thing: at least in the U.S., the likelihood that you'll get arrested is strongly affected by your gender, your race, and your socioeconomic status. For whatever reason, people who have lots of money (like NFL players) are less likely to get arrested, even when they do commit crimes. So I don't think we can rely on this study to assume that NFL players are less likely to commit domestic abuse. They're just less likely to get arrested on suspicion of committing domestic abuse.
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    Sep 21, 2014 12:17 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    JuanPablomv89 said
    Art_Deco saidSo I guess NFL players should be permitted to pound their wives into pulp, until they reach some arbitrary national average? Is this what you're telling us, libertpaulian? I'm not clear about the objective of your thread.

    I would have thought ZERO tolerance for domestic violence is the goal. Do you propose some other benchmark?

    Should NFL should financially support their wives or every straight men responsability is to feed its childrens and wives?. Every straight woman is alliwed to hit and disrepect men without having any sort of responsability of their actions.

    Oh PUL-LEEZE! Would you just go away? Aside from the fact you can't even spell, you are justifying domestic violence. Just like go away, OK?
    Wait a minute Art, he has a valid point. Women do commit acts of violent aggression against men and they are not held legally responsible for their criminal actions. However it is the total opposite if men commit the exact same violent acts. This is where our criminal justice system and our government in general has it all wrong. If there is any act of domestic violence than the aggressor should be arrested and held responsible both male and female. The female committing the violent act against a man should never get a free pass.
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    Sep 21, 2014 1:23 AM GMT
    We all know that Super Bowl Sunday is the most dangerous day for women.
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    Sep 21, 2014 9:36 PM GMT
    So why are liberal democrat players unions supporting men who beat women and children?