10 Red States That Mooch Off The Federal Government

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    Sep 21, 2014 6:33 PM GMT


    Mississippi is also the fattest icon_rolleyes.gif


    Republicans claim they've had it with American socialism. Maybe they should return the tax dollars subsidizing them
    http://www.salon.com/2014/09/20/10_red_states_that_mooch_off_the_federal_government_partner/


    The problem with that meme is that it has no basis in reality: the more prosperous and Democrat-leaning areas of the United States are likely to be subsidizing dysfunctional “red states,” many of which are suffering from insufficient tax revenue and an abundance of low-wage workers who don’t have much to tax. Tea Party Republicans like to point out that poor cities like Detroit, Baltimore and Camden, New Jersey are run by Democrats, but they neglect to mention that some of the most affluent parts of the United States—from Manhattan to the Silicon Valley and the San Francisco Bay Area to Cambridge, MA to Seattle to Chicago’s North Shore suburbs—are dominated by the Democratic Party. People in those heavily Democratic areas pay a lot of federal income taxes, and quite often, their tax dollars go to red states
  • KissTheSky

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    Sep 21, 2014 10:05 PM GMT
    The foundation of the Conservatives' belief system is a fraud: their main issue is less government, but the Red states are getting the bulk of the government assistance.
    They listen to Fox News all day and convince themselves that the "freeloaders" are all somewhere else... then they go the bank to cash their government assistance check. Makes perfect sense in Red State Land.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 22, 2014 12:40 AM GMT

    If Mississippi is the fattest and most dependent on the federal government, I would not doubt that the Giant Tea Party State of Texas is a very close second or third place. Yet most Texans hate Washington and the rest of the US so bad that they want to permanently break off and become their own sovereign nation-state. I wish that they would hurry up and secede so that we can permanently cut out their federal subsidies.
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    Sep 22, 2014 3:45 AM GMT

    ^^both good points, I wonder if this is the mission of people like Trent Lott, (Miss) and Rick Perry (TX), who 'incentivize', basically bribe, corporations to move cheap wage jobs to their crappy states so they can 'appear' to be independent of the government. When in fact, they lie like a rug on how much they really need government, maybe the entire south and its politicians think if they can get enough corporations to help them and their states out, they wouldn't need governments help, then they could throw their free enterprise 'success' in everyone's face, the well to do democratic states, areas and especially its people, know better not to be conned to live and work in the crappy south icon_lol.gif

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    Sep 22, 2014 11:54 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    ^^both good points, I wonder if this is the mission of people like Trent Lott, (Miss) and Rick Perry (TX), who 'incentivize', basically bribe, corporations to move cheap wage jobs to their crappy states so they can 'appear' to be independent of the government. When in fact, they lie like a rug on how much they really need government, maybe the entire south and its politicians think if they can get enough corporations to help them and their states out, they wouldn't need governments help, then they could throw their free enterprise 'success' in everyone's face, the well to do democratic states, areas and especially its people, know better not to be conned to live and work in the crappy south icon_lol.gif

    Not only are large parts of the South crappy, they are also poverty strickened. In fact certain rural areas of the South are almost as backward as the rural areas of Latin America.

    The state of Indiana is an entirely different case altogether because it is a developed, northern state. Where it gets its staunch conservatism from is anyones guess because none of its neighboring states have any of that powerful right wing influence. Why its two largest cities, Indianapolis and Fort Wayne are so conservative when most older northern cities are moderate or the total opposite of these two cities. Indiana republicans always come after democrats during election time and remind the people of Indiana to look at Gary, look at Hammond, look at Michigan City those are three democratic run cities in the predominately democratic northwestern area of Indiana and than ask the voters something like if they would like the rest of Indiana to become like its northwestern corner. The democrats are going to have to improve their governance in northwestern Indiana or they are always going to be trounced in statewide elections.
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    Sep 22, 2014 9:07 PM GMT
    Uninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.
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    Sep 22, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
    mx5guynj saidUninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.


    Uneducated conservatives who were asleep during grade school and high school history classes. I have to assume to didn't attend college. Or perhaps you get your 'edumacation' from Fox?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157244/Democratic-Party

    Stop living in the past. The Democrats aren't what they were 50+ years ago. As illustrated by your post, the Republicans replaced Dems as the nation's leading party of ignorance, hate and intolerance.
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    Sep 23, 2014 12:20 AM GMT
    credo said
    mx5guynj saidUninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.


    Uneducated conservatives who were asleep during grade school and high school history classes. I have to assume to didn't attend college. Or perhaps you get your 'edumacation' from Fox?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157244/Democratic-Party

    Stop living in the past. The Democrats aren't what they were 50+ years ago. As illustrated by your post, the Republicans replaced Dems as the nation's leading party of ignorance, hate and intolerance.
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    Credo, he is not living in the past. He is just stating a historical fact. The democrats were the political party of ignorance and intolerance. The democrats also help foster the movement that contributed to the rise of the religious right, the lunatic group that I refer to as NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS.
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    Sep 23, 2014 11:03 AM GMT
    mx5guynj said
    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.
    Really? Today's republicans have nothing in common with President Lincoln. They barely have anything in common with the republicans of the mid-20th century. They have morphed into something rather unrecognizable.
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    credo said
    mx5guynj saidUninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.


    Uneducated conservatives who were asleep during grade school and high school history classes. I have to assume to didn't attend college. Or perhaps you get your 'edumacation' from Fox?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157244/Democratic-Party

    Stop living in the past. The Democrats aren't what they were 50+ years ago. As illustrated by your post, the Republicans replaced Dems as the nation's leading party of ignorance, hate and intolerance.
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    Credo, he is not living in the past. He is just stating a historical fact. The democrats were the political party of ignorance and intolerance. The democrats also help foster the movement that contributed to the rise of the religious right, the lunatic group that I refer to as NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS.


    His reply to the OP is a non sequitur. It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

    And you're just as ignorant if you actually think his is a fair comparison to today's Democrats.
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    Sep 23, 2014 4:56 PM GMT
    credo said
    roadbikeRob said
    credo said
    mx5guynj saidUninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.


    Uneducated conservatives who were asleep during grade school and high school history classes. I have to assume to didn't attend college. Or perhaps you get your 'edumacation' from Fox?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157244/Democratic-Party

    Stop living in the past. The Democrats aren't what they were 50+ years ago. As illustrated by your post, the Republicans replaced Dems as the nation's leading party of ignorance, hate and intolerance.
    icon_lol.gif
    Credo, he is not living in the past. He is just stating a historical fact. The democrats were the political party of ignorance and intolerance. The democrats also help foster the movement that contributed to the rise of the religious right, the lunatic group that I refer to as NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS.


    His reply to the OP is a non sequitur. It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

    And you're just as ignorant if you actually think his is a fair comparison to today's Democrats.
    We are not talking about today's democrats, we are mentioning a historical fact about the democrats many decades ago. You just don't understand what is being said but yet you are criticizing something that you failed to fully comprehend.
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    Sep 24, 2014 12:32 AM GMT
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    Svnw688 saidOP, your posts are cracking me up and making you sexier to me haha. All I have to say is:

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    Sep 24, 2014 6:23 AM GMT
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    Sep 24, 2014 12:04 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    credo said
    roadbikeRob said
    credo said
    mx5guynj saidUninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.


    Uneducated conservatives who were asleep during grade school and high school history classes. I have to assume to didn't attend college. Or perhaps you get your 'edumacation' from Fox?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157244/Democratic-Party

    Stop living in the past. The Democrats aren't what they were 50+ years ago. As illustrated by your post, the Republicans replaced Dems as the nation's leading party of ignorance, hate and intolerance.
    icon_lol.gif
    Credo, he is not living in the past. He is just stating a historical fact. The democrats were the political party of ignorance and intolerance. The democrats also help foster the movement that contributed to the rise of the religious right, the lunatic group that I refer to as NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS.


    His reply to the OP is a non sequitur. It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

    And you're just as ignorant if you actually think his is a fair comparison to today's Democrats.
    We are not talking about today's democrats, we are mentioning a historical fact about the democrats many decades ago. You just don't understand what is being said but yet you are criticizing something that you failed to fully comprehend.


    I understand exactly what you two are saying. My reading comprehension skills are solid. I'm criticizing mx5guynj for derailing the OP's topic. And I stand by my original comment.
    If you'd like to discuss the history of political parties in the U.S., then I suggest starting a different thread on the topic, not hijacking a thread to push your ridiculous partisan agendas.
    You both fail.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Sep 25, 2014 12:21 AM GMT
    credo said
    roadbikeRob said
    credo said
    roadbikeRob said
    credo said
    mx5guynj saidUninformed liberals who were asleep during high school history class:

    The southern states gravy train was started by FDR and southern democrats. The same southern democrats who started the KKK which lynched African Americans, Jews, Gays and Republicans. The same southern democrats also initiated Jim Crow laws which were abolished through Republican anti discrimination acts in the 1960's which southern democrats voted against.

    You can't rewrite history liberals. Lincoln was a Republican who freed the slaves.


    Uneducated conservatives who were asleep during grade school and high school history classes. I have to assume to didn't attend college. Or perhaps you get your 'edumacation' from Fox?

    http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/157244/Democratic-Party

    Stop living in the past. The Democrats aren't what they were 50+ years ago. As illustrated by your post, the Republicans replaced Dems as the nation's leading party of ignorance, hate and intolerance.
    icon_lol.gif
    Credo, he is not living in the past. He is just stating a historical fact. The democrats were the political party of ignorance and intolerance. The democrats also help foster the movement that contributed to the rise of the religious right, the lunatic group that I refer to as NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS.


    His reply to the OP is a non sequitur. It has absolutely nothing to do with the OP.

    And you're just as ignorant if you actually think his is a fair comparison to today's Democrats.
    We are not talking about today's democrats, we are mentioning a historical fact about the democrats many decades ago. You just don't understand what is being said but yet you are criticizing something that you failed to fully comprehend.


    I understand exactly what you two are saying. My reading comprehension skills are solid. I'm criticizing mx5guynj for derailing the OP's topic. And I stand by my original comment.
    If you'd like to discuss the history of political parties in the U.S., then I suggest starting a different thread on the topic, not hijacking a thread to push your ridiculous partisan agendas.
    You both fail.
    No Credo, you failed because you misunderstood what was being said. I am fully aware the both the democratic and republican parties have changed very dramatically during the past five decades. I realize that the democrats swung to the left and the republicans swung to the right. FYI, I don't have any partisan agenda.