Start talking. Stop hiv.

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2014 3:25 AM GMT
    CDC starts a new campaign directed at men who have sex with men.

    http://www.cdc.gov/actagainstaids/campaigns/starttalking/index.html
  • tj85016

    Posts: 4123

    Sep 24, 2014 6:10 PM GMT
    more like stop lying and get tested
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 24, 2014 6:52 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidmore like stop lying and get tested

    That's a good point.
  • Svnw688

    Posts: 3350

    Sep 24, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    tumblr_n1w85a1PIa1suomhlo1_500.jpg
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 25, 2014 4:18 AM GMT
    JimiB saidCDC starts a new campaign directed at men who have sex with men.

    http://www.cdc.gov/actagainstaids/campaigns/starttalking/index.html
    So I have a question: is the HIV virus really spreading this much or spreading greatly with all of the mass campaigns of education towards both girls and boys regarding sex and transmission of disease? I'm just curious actually, because I'm an older guy who was a teen when this virus first appeared and I saw a lot of people die from it then but now, at this day and age, it seems to be treated now like just another venereal disease as all the others of them. But I do not have this disease nor any other disease and I can acknowledge that that's probably because I grew up at the time when we didn't know, as emerging teenagers, what the hell was killing us gay or bisexual boys and men. I'm still very selective about who I suck or who I let suck me (blame American 1980s when I was a young kid). Have things really changed a great deal among this new generation of gay and bisexual youngsters? I'm just curious.
  • Svnw688

    Posts: 3350

    Sep 25, 2014 5:16 AM GMT
    @MuchMoreThan.....Agreed. I don't see THAT many liars out there are I do reckless individuals. I also agree you shouldn't trust ANY guy you met a few hours ago. Bag it up every time.

    @Declansloan......My thoughts are as follows:

    (1). HIV drugs/meds are so advanced now that an HIV positive person can live indefinitely on them. Literally, we don't know because there hasn't been enough time since their creation in the late 80s and early 90s, and their modification and continuing "perfection" to this date. What we do know is that despite the meds, HIV is not just another venereal disease, and HIV is no trifling matter. Not to mention the side effects (known and unknown) of the meds, and the social justice implications for persons who can't get meds (e.g., Sub-Saharan Africans and the poor) or get meds administered consistently (e.g., the homeless, transient and impoverished).

    (2). Guys my age and younger (I'm 30) did not grow up seeing our friends dying left and right. We're, collectively, unaware of how bad AIDS is and how quickly it can kill you if not managed properly. As such, my generation largely sees it as a mere inconvenience, as if popping a pill effectively "cures" everything. Bear in mind this is NOT my mentality, I'm speaking from anecdotal experience and the collective wisdom of many older gay men I regularly speak with about this and other LGBT issues. I think the problem is that as a society we're walking a fine line between not wanting to stigmatize those with HIV, but at the same time needing to "scare" people into taking preventative action. Education is not enough. The fear is death is the only motivator that can overcome hormones in the heat of the moment. And we can't really do that AND respect those living with HIV. So we're left in this weird gray area of "HIV is not a death sentence, but remember to wear a condom." From a marketing and public policy standpoint, it's untenable.

    (3). I don't have HIV because I've been blessed to live in a time when scientists knew what transmits the virus, and I've been conscientious enough to take the proper precautions most of the time, and the very few times I did slip up I was fortunate enough to get lucky. But it goes without saying you cannot blame those who contracted the virus in the late 70s and 80s. Just like you can't blame anyone--regardless of time period--who isn't properly educated about HIV transmission. It sounds crazy to say, but lots of American people (usually poorer and rural) simply don't know the facts about transmission. It sounds absurd, but some people still believe these things. Just like some people still think Obama is a foreign Muslim, even though he's an American Christian.

  • davfit

    Posts: 309

    Sep 25, 2014 6:01 PM GMT
    did CDC interview/HIV..at my gym was told 75 bucks to answer a few questions I said Ok why not ...OOPS..Mistake.. CREEPY Interview ..told them from the start I just... had Annual Exam for everything!!!!...... and didn't want to waste their time , they said no problem...First question .."do you have Health Insurance"... DUH!!!
    Nothing but stupid very personal questions,, trick questions.And then the last 10+ minutes of trying to talk me into Testing... They are so off the Mark ...its not funny.. all Gay men do not do Drugs and Drink and all Gay men do not go to Sex clubs and all gay Men do not love,love anal Sex...and if you say NO!.. they ask it 5 different ways hoping your story wll change to fit their stereotype ...Really!! CDC are idiots..and can GFTS
  • Svnw688

    Posts: 3350

    Sep 25, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    davfit saiddid CDC interview/HIV..at my gym was told 75 bucks to answer a few questions I said Ok why not ...OOPS..Mistake.. CREEPY Interview ..told them from the start I just... had Annual Exam for everything!!!!...... and didn't want to waste their time , they said no problem...First question .."do you have Health Insurance"... DUH!!!
    Nothing but stupid very personal questions,, trick questions.And then the last 10+ minutes of trying to talk me into Testing... They are so off the Mark ...its not funny.. all Gay men do not do Drugs and Drink and all Gay men do not go to Sex clubs and all gay Men do not love,love anal Sex...and if you say NO!.. they ask it 5 different ways hoping your story wll change to fit their stereotype ...Really!! CDC are idiots..and can GFTS


    I too also get a little sick of the one-size fits all, even if it's understandable from a public policy/limited resources perspective. This is how it feels when the people with clipboards approach:

    tumblr_inline_mzs7eujRQS1s2fis0.gif

  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 26, 2014 10:24 AM GMT
    declansloan said
    JimiB saidCDC starts a new campaign directed at men who have sex with men.

    http://www.cdc.gov/actagainstaids/campaigns/starttalking/index.html
    So I have a question: is the HIV virus really spreading this much or spreading greatly with all of the mass campaigns of education towards both girls and boys regarding sex and transmission of disease? I'm just curious actually, because I'm an older guy who was a teen when this virus first appeared and I saw a lot of people die from it then but now, at this day and age, it seems to be treated now like just another venereal disease as all the others of them. But I do not have this disease nor any other disease and I can acknowledge that that's probably because I grew up at the time when we didn't know, as emerging teenagers, what the hell was killing us gay or bisexual boys and men. I'm still very selective about who I suck or who I let suck me (blame American 1980s when I was a young kid). Have things really changed a great deal among this new generation of gay and bisexual youngsters? I'm just curious.


    The incidence of hiv infect is down overall in the U.S. That is except for young gay men. Amongst young gay men the incidence is up.
  • Posted by a hidden member.
    Log in to view his profile

    Sep 26, 2014 1:14 PM GMT
    Hey CDC: Stop talking. Go the hell away.