Do you think not having a father has something to do with being gay?

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    Sep 29, 2014 11:30 PM GMT
    Do you think there is a correlation between men who didn't have a good father figure as kids and then being gay or attracted to males as adults?



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    Sep 29, 2014 11:39 PM GMT
    No, being born gay has something to do with being gay.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:39 PM GMT
    Ravensong saidNo, being born gay has something to do with being gay.

    Not everyone is born gay, sometimes it develops later in life.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:40 PM GMT
    David3K said
    Ravensong saidNo, being born gay has something to do with being gay.

    Not everyone is born gay.

    I disagree.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:44 PM GMT
    Ravensong said
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    Ravensong saidNo, being born gay has something to do with being gay.

    Not everyone is born gay.

    I disagree.

    How can you disagree? You only know what happened to you but you cannot know how things were for the rest.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:45 PM GMT
    NO
    I do; however, believe it is used as an excuse, maybe, a way of initial acceptance.

    "I'm not gay...just need a guy to hug me once an a while, because daddy never did".

    --think it's the g0y mantra.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:46 PM GMT
    I think the correlation is highly off. There are people that are born gay that already have fathers.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:47 PM GMT
    Haruo3 saidI think the correlation is highly off. There are people that are born gay that already have fathers.

    Of course many gays have fathers, but I actually think there is a correlation because you hear a lot about gay men that for many reasons didn't have fathers in their lives. I'm not 100% sure it's a real cause though, that's why I asked for opinions.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:49 PM GMT
    I don't remember where I read this, but I know it's a very valid theory. apparently men who, during their upbringing, didn't have a real male role model to look up to (either bc they couldn't relate to their fathers or bc they just didn't have a father) spend their whole life looking for that father figure which ultimately leads them to be gay.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:53 PM GMT
    patito saidI don't remember where I read this, but I know it's a very valid theory. apparently men who, during their upbringing, didn't have a real male role model to look up to (either bc they couldn't relate to their fathers or bc they just didn't have a father) spend their whole life looking for that father figure which ultimately leads them to be gay.


    Yeah that's what I think. Or maybe somehow they try to recreate what they didn't have, like people who were born poor and as adults don't even eat cheap food because it reminds them to their past.
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    Sep 29, 2014 11:58 PM GMT
    My mother thought if I had a male figure acting butch around me and beating me it would make me into a man (Read a straight lumberjack). Didn't work.. I don't like being told what to do and who I need to be. And when someone pushes I push back.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:01 AM GMT
    Anecdotally, it seems like many gay men I know have had difficult or absent fathers. Whether that caused them to be gay ... I don't know.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:01 AM GMT
    No icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:07 AM GMT
    Theres plenty of gay men with fathers.

    Also theres plenty of str8 people with lesbian parents so no typical father figure so yeh lol
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    sf_swimmer saidAnecdotally, it seems like many gay men I know have had difficult or absent fathers. Whether that caused them to be gay ... I don't know.


    exactly, as we have generations of absent and absenty fathers.
    -seams to me if it were true there would be a lot less straight men. I don't think any man my dad's age hugged or told you he love you.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:09 AM GMT
    get used to it; born that way.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:12 AM GMT
    OK wait a minute, to the ones saying "born that way", how do you know everyone was born that way? Thats a very obtuse point of view; You only know what happened to yourself, but you weren't in the skin of the rest. I know some people became gay or attracted to men later in life.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:18 AM GMT
    David3K saidOK wait a minute, to the ones saying "born that way", how do you know everyone was born that way? Thats a very obtuse point of view; You only know what happened to yourself, but you weren't in the skin of the rest. I know some people became gay or attracted to men later in life.


    the distinction is and lies in being "GAY" and that of being "Bisexual"; as such will never be agreed upon.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:24 AM GMT
    David3K saidDo you think there is a correlation between men who didn't have a father figure as kids and then being gay or attracted to males as adults?





    ABSOLUTELY TRUE in some cases. I didn't have male guidance growing up and I went from being interested primarily in females to opening my mind up to males. I don't find it unnatural though. I had the freedom to explore. My Mom was not pointing me in a direction and as I said I had no father to point me in a direction. My Father walked back into my life recently and is not at all offended I have had sex with guys and not women.

    As for the gene THEORY... It is not proven Scientifically yet not accepted by the SO-CALLED Scientists that conducted the experiments and how they conducted those experiments.

    YOU ARE A FREE SPIRIT... If you like what you do now more power too you but if your body requires something different and your mind is struggling with it GROW from it... Don't let some label carved in SUPPOSED GENETIC STONE hold you back.
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:30 AM GMT
    This shit is about YOUR happiness and your future!!! Gotta post this quote again...

    "The person you want to be is the person you already are, you just don't know it yet." - Ernest Holmes
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:32 AM GMT
    no
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    Sep 30, 2014 12:48 AM GMT
    dustin_K_tx said
    David3K saidOK wait a minute, to the ones saying "born that way", how do you know everyone was born that way? Thats a very obtuse point of view; You only know what happened to yourself, but you weren't in the skin of the rest. I know some people became gay or attracted to men later in life.


    the distinction is and lies in being "GAY" and that of being "Bisexual"; as such will never be agreed upon.

    So are you saying that gay people were born gay and bisexuals weren't?
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    Sep 30, 2014 1:19 AM GMT
    David3K said
    So are you saying that gay people were born gay and bisexuals weren't?


    I'm saying that gay men believe they were born gay--can think back to early development and say Yep. GAY, Gay, Gay.
    Bisexuals tend to believe some dude turned them gay cause they'd be all up in that pussy if it weren't for that one dude.
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    Sep 30, 2014 1:21 AM GMT
    dustin_K_tx said
    David3K said
    So are you saying that gay people were born gay and bisexuals weren't?


    I'm saying that gay men believe they were born gay--can think back to early development and say Yep. GAY, Gay, Gay.
    Bisexuals tend to believe some dude turned them gay cause they'd be all up in that pussy if it weren't for that one dude.

    hahah spot on
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    Sep 30, 2014 1:25 AM GMT
    David3K saidDo you think there is a correlation between men who didn't have a father figure as kids and then being gay or attracted to males as adults?





    I probably shouldn't be saying this, but I think enough time has passed. I say no, but my father thinks so. When I told him I'm gay, he blamed himself for his failure (by apparently not being "there" enough during my childhood) to teach me that even though sex is strictly for procreation, it can also be pleasurable as long as it's between a man and a woman.

    So I guess it depends on which one of us you believe. icon_biggrin.gif