Current HIV mortality statistics only tell half the truth.

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    Oct 02, 2014 2:01 PM GMT
    Ever wondered why people die in 3rd world countries of the same illness as those who live long in the west? The elimination of most fatal communicable diseases has along with improved therapies and medicate created a false nirvana about the effect of HIV in the Western World
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    Oct 02, 2014 7:30 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIt's called poverty and no access to medical care.

    Something as simple as washing one's hands after defecating is a luxury many impoverished areas of Africa could not afford (and in some cases, still cannot). It is also one of the simplest and best ways to prevent communicable (and fatal) diseases that can be spread through fecal matter.

    During my last quarter at college I did a term paper for a globalization class on the Millennium Development Goals; an action plan created by the United Nations to improve living conditions on all levels for all impoverished areas of the world. You should look into it and maybe you'll learn something.

    Judging by your irrational contributions surrounding the topic of HIV it's crystal clear you have a propagandistic agenda. The fact that you chose to single out one disease is a blatant, singular magnification out of the many medical crises other less fortunate areas of the world still suffer from.

    We could say the same about malaria in Africa. Or we can say the same about polio in the Middle East (as well as Africa). These are problems of the past for developed nations simply because they have money and access to medical care.

    Your logic is fallacious and your obsession with HIV is obvious.


    Even here in the U.S., where hand washing is usually convenient, many people fail to wash their hands when they should. There have been surveys taken in rest rooms which have determined that. I see it at the gym from time to time.
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    Oct 03, 2014 1:43 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidIt's called poverty and no access to medical care.

    Something as simple as washing one's hands after defecating is a luxury many impoverished areas of Africa could not afford (and in some cases, still cannot). It is also one of the simplest and best ways to prevent communicable (and fatal) diseases that can be spread through fecal matter.

    During my last quarter at college I did a term paper for a globalization class on the Millennium Development Goals; an action plan created by the United Nations to improve living conditions on all levels for all impoverished areas of the world. You should look into it and maybe you'll learn something.

    Judging by your irrational contributions surrounding the topic of HIV it's crystal clear you have a propagandistic agenda. The fact that you chose to single out one disease is a blatant, singular magnification out of the many medical crises other less fortunate areas of the world still suffer from.

    We could say the same about malaria in Africa. Or we can say the same about polio in the Middle East (as well as Africa). These are problems of the past for developed nations simply because they have money and access to medical care.

    Your logic is fallacious and your obsession with HIV is obvious.


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    Annually, malaria kills more people worldwide than HIV. Tuberculosis is a major threat in Africa affecting HIV+ people, and often people die of TB and not HIV.

    Having lived in Kenya, Zimbabwe, and South Africa (and having worked in many other sub-Saharan countries), I can tell you that HIV is a serious problem, of course. But poverty, hygiene, and access to healthcare are far more serious determinants of health, and responsible for such high infection rates and deaths due to lack of treatment.

    In many places, condoms are not freely available like they are in the west, where you can find them in every public toilet, clinic, community centre, and nightclub.

    In places like Malawi, there is only 1 doctor for every 100,000 people. Often these few medical staff are only available in centralised hospitals in big cities, far from the rural areas that most people live in. So accessing healthcare is very difficult — geographically, and economically. Further adding to the problem is the high cost of medicine, which is often out of reach for regular people. Doctors Without Borders (Médecins Sans Frontières) does a great job of bridging extreme gaps, but they can't do it alone. They need donations, volunteer medical staff, and cooperation from other organisations and governments.

    In fact, its been clinically proven that modern triple combination HIV treatment is effective in controlling the transmission and spread of HIV. Taking your meds and achieving an "undetectable" viral load is 96.6% effective in stopping HIV from being transmitted from positive partners to negative parthers (this success rate is the same as condoms). That is not to say we should throw out condoms, but instead it is to reassure people that there is an additional layer of protection, and not to fear partnering with HIV+ people who are managing their health.

    Of course, there are other sexually transmitted infections out there, which condoms are better at preventing (e.g. HPV, gonorrhea, syphilis, hepatitis, etc.) but also not 100%.


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    Oct 04, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    When someone say they have an undetectable viral load, how reliably current is that information? The 3 month window period

    I am very concerned about this dangerous twisting of the facts. HIV infections are on the rise in my state and not young people it's mainly Gen X who have financial access to the best medical care. I have spoken to guys online who say "I have an undetectable load".

    I have seen these studies stating that it's safer to bare-back with a HIV poz on mess than a guy who doesn't know his status or is using his last test which doesn't cover the window period as his guide. That is so insane as must be the persons who believe it's true.

    Anybody know who paid for these trials and development of the medication. Wow, I just don't know why so many Gay men can't seem to escape from committing self harm. Why oh why
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    Oct 04, 2014 9:26 PM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidWhen someone say they have an undetectable viral load, how reliably current is that information? The 3 month window period

    I am very concerned about this dangerous twisting of the facts. HIV infections are on the rise in my state and not young people it's mainly Gen X who have financial access to the best medical care. I have spoken to guys online who say "I have an undetectable load".

    I have seen these studies stating that it's safer to bare-back with a HIV poz on mess than a guy who doesn't know his status or is using his last test which doesn't cover the window period as his guide. That is so insane as must be the persons who believe it's true.

    Anybody know who paid for these trials and development of the medication. Wow, I just don't know why so many Gay men can't seem to escape from committing self harm. Why oh why


    Why must there be a conspiracy?!? This is the highest quality research possible. The CDC, WHO, NIH, etc aren't out to get you. They're here to help end HIV.

    If you would like to manage your sexual risk I suggest talking to your doctor. There are many options for you. But you need to stop the moralizing. Men have sex. Their choices aren't going to be the same as yours. Get over it.
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    Oct 21, 2014 8:23 AM GMT
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    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidWhen someone say they have an undetectable viral load, how reliably current is that information? The 3 month window period

    I am very concerned about this dangerous twisting of the facts. HIV infections are on the rise in my state and not young people it's mainly Gen X who have financial access to the best medical care. I have spoken to guys online who say "I have an undetectable load".

    I have seen these studies stating that it's safer to bare-back with a HIV poz on mess than a guy who doesn't know his status or is using his last test which doesn't cover the window period as his guide. That is so insane as must be the persons who believe it's true.

    Anybody know who paid for these trials and development of the medication. Wow, I just don't know why so many Gay men can't seem to escape from committing self harm. Why oh why


    Why must there be a conspiracy?!? This is the highest quality research possible. The CDC, WHO, NIH, etc aren't out to get you. They're here to help end HIV.

    If you would like to manage your sexual risk I suggest talking to your doctor. There are many options for you. But you need to stop the moralizing. Men have sex. Their choices aren't going to be the same as yours. Get over it.


    The CDC took payments to rush through the approval in the USA. I am a realist and your simplistic idiotic reply of how I am moralising is the height of stupidity. Don't you get it people?? The problem isn't about stopping people from choosing their own sexual practices, it's in getting information that is faulse or at best half true which is leading to people making important decisions based on those lies.

    BB sex is rampant you must be blind or just covering your eyes and ears to it. People are making that choice based on information that is incorrect so that information needs to be challenged. Do you think I don't get lots of sex? I sure do buddy and I don't need a doctor maybe you do.
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    Oct 23, 2014 1:15 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said^

    I am actually surprised that you get lots of sex, Sydneyflop. I really am. Would this be bathhouse sex where horny guys have no standards?


    Buddy I would say anybody who touches you would have to be medicated heavily just enough that they can't run away from that face of yours but not enough to call it rape.

    The bathhouse reference is from your own experiences because people like you Moronmuscle like to make themselves feel better that way.

    Get some help buddy it obvious you need it and leave me the fuck alone.
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    Oct 23, 2014 2:36 AM GMT
    Hey Musclemoron lady like?? WTF? Doen't steroids give you bitch tits?? I am not interested in camping it up or any of that other shit.

    I am outside a lot of the time. There's a thing called IPhone and an IPad which can let me view RJ posts anywhere.

    I'm actually not interested in attacking people or any particular group. My professional role is to advocate for the most disadvantaged in society.

    It's just my nature to be anti-authoritarian and that isn't going to change anytime soon. I also am aware that being anti-authoritarian without thinking is wasting my time and everyone else's so I don't do it.

    However if I see something that doesn't seem right that effects or at least likely to have an indirect impact, I don't let it go unchallenged. To those who don't like it tough luck and If you want to pull up on something factual go ahead but all too often someone wants to get personal.

    You came in to attack me because of what Timm55 was saying and he was getting very personal and using all sorts of insults to me and anyone else who posted things he didn't agree with.

    But I must point out he started spilling out more truth after I challenged him and I'll do that again if need be.

    If you dislike me so much then ignore my posts, I actually don't dislike anyone on here, even though I may strongly at times disagree with what they say. Having said that once I am attacked,

    I will retaliate eventually and when I do I will not be backing down to bullying tactics via threats, dismissive insults, personal attacks or any other form of attempts at bullying. FYI if I did it I would expect the same happen to me as it would to others.

    RJ gives gay Men a place to voice things about Themselves and the world they live and often gay men are isolated, lonely, feel alienated or just unsupported by the wider community.

    Then people on here, not just you, your insults are trivial and laughable but many others resorting to the same tactics that heterosexual men use to put gay men down and that in effect is saying to those guys 'you don't belong here buddy coz ya don't agree with us so your not in out club'.

    Awwwww poor little bruised ego so called men who should be more caring need a big hug do they??? No f***n way that crap ain't good enough and I'm disgusted that it's the successful on life of my own generation, Gen X who are the worst perpetrators of this behaviour. I rarely see that shit from the Baby Boomers or Gen Y youngsters.

    My guess is they don't need to coz they get enough out laughing at us the so called backbones of society, the power gays or whatever the other regional based f**king labels they're are out there.

    Times are changing so go with it or against it. I challenge it then move with it what' about the rest of you Gen Xer's?? Got another personal insult for me huh? Is that as far as your intellect stretches???
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    Oct 23, 2014 10:32 AM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle saidOh jeez.

    Way too much blather coming from that aussi pie hole of yours. TL;DR


    Please be aware that many people here are aware of your agenda. You're full of shit and you're the new shit smear of realjock. In less than 400 posts you gained that title in record time.


    But Musclemoron I cannot possibly take you away from your well earned title. I haven't been smearing anyone but you have buddy
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    Oct 24, 2014 12:45 AM GMT
    I don't spend me life in the gym I work out I for sustaining strength I enjoy having a life these days not spending every moment in a gym, nor do I shoot up steroids which clearly you do, which means your bitchiness can be explained by your bodies increased production in oestrogen. Get the hint, stop reading and posting on my forums as it's clear you have issues.

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    Oct 25, 2014 2:37 PM GMT
    There is no evidence you have supplied to support your moronic rantings. I could suggest that you have a hormone imbalance and that you are displaying symptoms similar to BI polar disorder. For me I have ADHD which is treated with physical activity and my opposition defiance disorder is clearly treated by this forum. I am an advocate for people to take medication when it has a clear short to medium term goal, however I am aware of the long term effects of medication even with the 'mildest' symptoms and I am aware that taking medication as a primary strategy for better health is something only a moron would advocate, but hey that's how you came to be known as Musclemoron the steroid taking freak who like to shoot his mouth off and bully others, as a result of his need to project his self loathing over his own personality shortcomings. We all pity you

    [play trumpets] as this is my last post until someone intelligent comments on here, clearly not you and your mates Timn55 and Frogface
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    Oct 26, 2014 1:59 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidThere is no evidence you have supplied to support your moronic rantings. I could suggest that you have a hormone imbalance and that you are displaying symptoms similar to BI polar disorder. For me I have ADHD which is treated with physical activity and my opposition defiance disorder is clearly treated by this forum. I am an advocate for people to take medication when it has a clear short to medium term goal, however I am aware of the long term effects of medication even with the 'mildest' symptoms and I am aware that taking medication as a primary strategy for better health is something only a moron would advocate, but hey that's how you came to be known as Musclemoron the steroid taking freak who like to shoot his mouth off and bully others, as a result of his need to project his self loathing over his own personality shortcomings. We all pity you

    [play trumpets] as this is my last post until someone intelligent comments on here, clearly not you and your mates Timn55 and Frogface


    What evidence have you supplied? Other than grossly distorting basic statistics and having absolutely NO grasp of socio-economics and how they tie into health care you are either intentionally distorting facts or you are clearly too stupid to understand how poverty affects a country's medical approach to fighting disease(s).

    You mentioned previously, "I am very concerned about this dangerous twisting of the facts." < This coming from you is laughable and ludicrous. You aren't even close to being in touch with the facts. Nor have you provided any reliable sources to support your absurd theories.

    "The world according to RugbyFlop." You have to be mentally challenged to carry on as you do. I refuse to believe someone with all their marbles could be this stupid.


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