ISIS: Alan Henning execution

  • jaroslav123

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    Oct 04, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/10/03/us-mideast-crisis-henning-behading-idUSKCN0HS1XX20141003

    Yikes.
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    Oct 06, 2014 8:31 PM GMT
    "Execution" implies the infliction of a legal punishment. The poor guy was murdered, plain and simple.
  • WrestlerBoy

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    Oct 06, 2014 10:43 PM GMT
    I am reluctant to say this, as I have yet to fully and finally resolve my thoughts on the matter.

    "11. So there are two distinct rights: (i) the right that everyone has, to punish the criminal so as to restrain him and prevent such offences in future; (ii) the right that an injured party has to get reparation."

    (John Locke, "Second Treatise of Government" (1689).

    This is the philosophical basis for the jurisprudence involved in a "natural law" answer to this barbarity.

    So, I won't (yet) make my thought process fully known on this, except to say:

    1) We need to "stop" these murders; and in the case, at least, of the British "jihadists" carrying them out,

    2) We know where their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters...live.

    NB: We also knew where almost every relative of the 9/11 attackers lived, within a week of the attacks. How much money - and how many truly innocent lives did we take - in our response to that?

  • jaroslav123

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    Oct 07, 2014 4:25 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 said"Execution" implies the infliction of a legal punishment. The poor guy was murdered, plain and simple.


    ISIS is steadily forming a state under Sharia Law - so I'd have to disagree, this is an execution. Either, way "murder" or "execution" - a death has still occurred.
  • jaroslav123

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    Oct 07, 2014 4:27 PM GMT
    WrestlerBoy saidI am reluctant to say this, as I have yet to fully and finally resolve my thoughts on the matter.

    "11. So there are two distinct rights: (i) the right that everyone has, to punish the criminal so as to restrain him and prevent such offences in future; (ii) the right that an injured party has to get reparation."

    (John Locke, "Second Treatise of Government" (1689).

    This is the philosophical basis for the jurisprudence involved in a "natural law" answer to this barbarity.

    So, I won't (yet) make my thought process fully known on this, except to say:

    1) We need to "stop" these murders; and in the case, at least, of the British "jihadists" carrying them out,

    2) We know where their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters...live.

    NB: We also knew where almost every relative of the 9/11 attackers lived, within a week of the attacks. How much money - and how many truly innocent lives did we take - in our response to that?



    Chelsea Manning wrote a good article on how to dissolve ISIS.