Straight Guys Are So Gay

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    Jan 15, 2009 7:58 AM GMT
    I think it's interesting how comfortable some guys are around eachother. I've heard of jacking off in front of the other like it was no big deal, watching porn and jacking in the same room, and jacking each other off, blowing eachother, and the "caught in the moment" sex. No matter how they try to spin it, it's gay.
    Football, wrestling, contact sports, butt slapping, and very outwardly homophobic to counteract, for lack of a better word, the gayness.

    It seems to be they want to have their cake and eat it too. While not all straight guys are like this, they do enjoy male contact no matter how badly they don't want to admit it; they fucking love and crave it. They are allowed to do "gay" things but don't want the stigma of the title.

    What do you guys think? Noticed any straight guys that would make a perfect couple? Or do you think they like it and just have to be showed how much? icon_twisted.gif
  • coolarmydude

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    Jan 15, 2009 2:55 PM GMT
    Watch the MTV show called Bromance. I saw the commercial for it a few times and was thinking that I was straight all of a sudden.
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    Jan 15, 2009 3:03 PM GMT
    Hmm, how about we just say they are human with sexual desires and eliminate the whole gay-straight labeling.

    Getting "caught in the sexual moment" isn't a bad thing either. Let people do what they want without labeling them.
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    Jan 15, 2009 4:39 PM GMT
    2 of my roommates at college would make the cutest gay couple. They're best friends, and have done everything together since day one of college. They're pretty much inseperable. It would be really cute.
  • oxdr

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    Jan 15, 2009 5:36 PM GMT
    Very good topic man. That is something that I have been saying for years. Who needs porn, just watch football when they are going to hike the ball. Or just watch men wrestling eachother in tights, you don't miss much.
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    Jan 15, 2009 5:38 PM GMT
    animanimus saidnext month i've got three str8 friends coming to stay with me. my biggest fear is that two of them love to shop.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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    Jan 15, 2009 5:49 PM GMT
    Miasma saidI think it's interesting how comfortable some guys are around eachother. I've heard of jacking off in front of the other like it was no big deal, watching porn and jacking in the same room, and jacking each other off, blowing eachother, and the "caught in the moment" sex. No matter how they try to spin it, it's gay.
    Football, wrestling, contact sports, butt slapping, and very outwardly homophobic to counteract, for lack of a better word, the gayness.

    It seems to be they want to have their cake and eat it too. While not all straight guys are like this, they do enjoy male contact no matter how badly they don't want to admit it; they fucking love and crave it. They are allowed to do "gay" things but don't want the stigma of the title.

    What do you guys think? Noticed any straight guys that would make a perfect couple? Or do you think they like it and just have to be showed how much? icon_twisted.gif


    Interesting thought.. Kinda flows with what i have thought for a long time that Homophobia is better defined as a fear of being gay.

    STR8 guys are just doing what comes natural. Gay guys stigmatize themselves by setting themselves off as different and then look for "normal" people to validate that.
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    Jan 15, 2009 6:04 PM GMT
    HAAHAHA....BROMANCE!
    I damn near died the first time i heard of that show! If it was someone else other than whats his face from the Hills or whatever...it would be considered gay! AND didn't everyone make fun of Paris's BFF show?
    Same with that show "tool acadamey" on vh1 HONESTLY!

    But yeah...I also was told a couple of weeks ago about the jacking off thing.
    This one girl i work with told me that her brother was on a football team at the high school...and quit due to how weird it was. Apparently they even piss on each other! I found it quite funny...but pretty creepy!

    I also have straight friends that act like such gay ass pussys its rediculous!

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    Jan 15, 2009 6:05 PM GMT
    Not quite on topic, but close. I was listening to an old Dan Savage podcast the other day, and remembered that there was a study done once measuring excitability in straight males. Of course, those that were most outwardly homophobic were the most turned on by homoerotic imagery.

    One of my straight male friends once told me that one of the things he likes best about me being gay is that he can joke around with me in a borderline homoerotic way and not have me freak out or miscontextualize it. Many straight men are so locked into perceived societal taboos that they utterly avoid shows of harmless and natural homosocial bonding unless it's in a sports arena or other 'manly' venue where it's become accepted as a 'macho' thing.

    The whole 'bromance' phenomenon, while kinda silly, is actually a little bit cool in that it tries to break down those artificial lines of acceptable straight male vs. gay male behavior and gently mocking our societally-imposed conventions.
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    Jan 15, 2009 6:07 PM GMT
    Ever wonder why women treat men like children? It's because most men are so wrapped up with the concept that masculinity means avoiding showing emotions that they look really stupid. Women, on the other hand, are pretty much free to show emotions. To hug whomever they want if they really want to, to cry whenever they really want to, to say 'i love you' to anyone when they really mean it (or not in some case, but that's another story, lol), etc.

    I mean, come on! When will guys realize that hugging your best friend doesn't mean you're both gay?!

    They have to resort to silly excuses just to feel the tiniest of connections between other people. Damn. icon_confused.gif
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    Jan 15, 2009 6:12 PM GMT
    zdrew saidNot quite on topic, but close. I was listening to an old Dan Savage podcast the other day, and remembered that there was a study done once measuring excitability in straight males. Of course, those that were most outwardly homophobic were the most turned on by homoerotic imagery.

    One of my straight male friends once told me that one of the things he likes best about me being gay is that he can joke around with me in a borderline homoerotic way and not have me freak out or miscontextualize it. Many straight men are so locked into perceived societal taboos that they utterly avoid shows of harmless and natural homosocial bonding unless it's in a sports arena or other 'manly' venue where it's become accepted as a 'macho' thing.

    The whole 'bromance' phenomenon, while kinda silly, is actually a little bit cool in that it tries to break down those artificial lines of acceptable straight male vs. gay male behavior and gently mocking our societally-imposed conventions.



    Yeah....this is true.....Iam just saying...if anyone else (lets say off the street) would make a show like that, it would be considered gay and no one would watch it! I actually haven't seen it...I am not too sure what they do on there...Iam guessing its like Pair's BFF show..

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    Jan 15, 2009 6:37 PM GMT
    Most accomplished athletes have brimming self-confidence and good self-esteem. As such, very little threatens their id / ego. They're not uptight about being a guy, towel-snapping, butt-slapping, shoulder-touching, ab-pinching, back-shaving, muscle stretching, and all the ritual male jock bonding in the world of competitive sports. They're used to talking "shit" on and off the court, and very little phases them. Ever watch a realjock.com forum and see the flaming queens lash out on off-topic stuff because they somehow got their fragile egos bruised ever the slightest bit? Chris, the guy who runs realjock.com, gets inundated, on a daily basis, with whining complaints of these guys who get miffed at some insult from some queen a 1/2 world away. They don't know how to behave with any level of self-esteem. Their egos are sometimes so very fragile it's laughable.

    Strangely, many gay men are the most homophobic of all, in my experience. They are constantly preoccupied about appearance, and what everyone else thinks that they never every just lighten up and have a good time. Their self-esteem, self-confidence, and positivity is low, and it shows. They self destruct in a constant self-centered view of how they should conduct themselves.

    From time to time I'll meet a "Real Jock" who is a bit homophobic, but, most just aren't like that. They're bright, well-read, witty, confident, funny guys that have discipline and an ability to focus on a goal in a team environment: to just get along. In fact, just the oppositie is most often true. If you're in great shape, muscular, talented, bright, and witty, it's easy to take your shirt off and have a good time, etc., no matter who you're with. That's the self-confidence that true athleticism puts into an individual.
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    Jan 15, 2009 7:32 PM GMT
    its not exactly gay dear, straight men need affection too and they need more then jut womanly affection..

    Guys need to bond with other guys, to be able to mess around with each other, be playful, get rough and all that shit, however they do it, they do it, my mates don't give a damn if they come across as gay to me, I know they are straight and there comfortable and confident with who they are, if they smack my arse, or grab me or jump on me, hell, sometimes when it goes far enough they simulate sex (oddly they are always the bottom) who cares, cause at the end of the day, straight men need love and affection and I don't give a shit if they are gay or straight just that they are happy.
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    Jan 15, 2009 7:36 PM GMT
    Pinny saidHmm, how about we just say they are human with sexual desires and eliminate the whole gay-straight labeling.

    Getting "caught in the sexual moment" isn't a bad thing either. Let people do what they want without labeling them.


    Exactly, what does it matter what choices another person makes with their life?

    I WISH we could just leave labels alone but that's probably not going to happen for at least a while.
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    Jan 15, 2009 7:40 PM GMT
    Alpha13 said
    Miasma said

    Interesting thought.. Kinda flows with what i have thought for a long time that Homophobia is better defined as a fear of being gay.

    STR8 guys are just doing what comes natural. Gay guys stigmatize themselves by setting themselves off as different and then look for "normal" people to validate that.


    I think it's more a fear of being identified as gay but I believe your generally correct.

    When it comes to being gay, it seems to be all about punctuating the things that set us apart when in reality, gay men are just that, men. No need to set yourself apart with a label.
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    Jan 15, 2009 7:45 PM GMT
    Lol I heard that one of my bi friends and his straight friend were watching porn together once... he didn't know my friend's bi icon_razz.gif
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    Jan 15, 2009 7:46 PM GMT
    I hate this the most ... My dorm mates always joke about eachother sexually , asses , dicks ... and in the other hand they are extremely homophobic .. yuck..
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    Jan 15, 2009 8:18 PM GMT
    Whether gay or str8, the most attractive men are those who have enough confidence that they don't need to post their sexuality on their foreheads. Str8 men rarely announce the fact, but my sense is that gay men announce it all the time --in what they wear, how they act, how they talk, etc.

    Attraction is a human characteristic. That, for many, it's been firmly entrenched that one can only be attracted to a member of the opposite sex is just too damn bad. Most of my friends happen to be straight, but a few of them are comfortable enough with their own skin to ask me a lot of questions about what my life is like. I was married for many years, have grown kids, and made the switch a couple of years back. Their questions are specific, and although we chuckle our way through, I sense that I'm the only one they have to ask. And if my answers clarify anything in their own heads, that's cool. Otherwise, I take their questions to be their way of taking an interest in my life, in a way that heretofore, was inappropriate.
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    Jan 15, 2009 8:58 PM GMT
    Fuckin' love the comment by chuckystud... I think that's dead on. You'll notice that straight guys who play the roughest sports like rugby and football, jocks who are the most masculine and confident, are the least afraid to get physical with one another. They like bonding with other men, dont care what anybody else thinks; they know they can go home and fuck their wives, girlfriends, etc.
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    Jan 15, 2009 8:59 PM GMT
    We do all sorts of crazy funny shit in the locker room, seeing who is bigger, or who can cum the most, just silly stupid childish stuff out of boredom, doesn't mean anything, and everyone laughs at it.

    But as for guys being intimate and all caring for each other, nothing wrong with that, nothing new about it, men have been like that with each other since men have been around. Its real big in my sport since the guys in it are pretty traditional, and very much about the warrior culture. Its just that in today's society 2 men having such emotions for each other and hanging out a lot and all usually get labeled as gay, (and aren't) and of course they don't want that, especially if they are in the whole masculine professions, because they equate gay with weakness. See two men together who appear to be lovers, and the first thing that pops into someone's head is "which one is the bitch in the relationship?"

    And neither guy wants to be seen as such, having his masculinity killed and all. I have nothing against anyone who is gay, but I just don't identify with gay,my best friend and I love each other a lot, hang out a lot, we'll play fight a lot, cuddle, jerk off together, kiss (I don't mean tongue down the throat kiss), buy each other things, we train together, travel and compete together, we were in the military together, we hunt/fish together, view the world the same pretty much, and even get crazy over the same video games, we just share a bond/love for each other we could NEVER have with our girls, and I love my girl very much as does he, and both of them understand it 100%, they get the whole Bromance thing, haha and even call us Bromeo, and Dudeliet, so do all of the guys at the gym.


    The relationship between us has nothing to do with sex, men like him and I always want the people we take care of to feel safe, secure, and stable, and while all men have their fears and doubts, its very normal, men like us don't want the people we love and care for, and protect to see us all down, depressed, worried, or afraid of something. So for example if Dudeliet (my buddy) was having a "man period" ha, he'd have me to come to, and when we were all done being all "bromantic", by the time he goes back to his wife and kid, he's either starting to feel good, or he feels awesome or "mantastic" haha, which means, he won't feel nagged by his girl, he won't give his family the silent treatment shutting them out, or snap at any of them, and when everyone goes to bed nobody's feelings are hurt, that's how the men were with each other in ancient times, only today I guess to be funny about it haha they call it a bromance.

    None of our buddies at the gym question our masculinity, and we joke around a lot with it ourselves because we both denied the whole bromance thing between us for a bit which was funny, we'd be like "whatever its no bromance", then at lunch time we're sharing food, and I even wiped ketchup off his face haha, I'll kiss him on his forehead, or on top of his head, hug on him I don't care who is around. He knows if anything ever happened to him, I'd take care of his girl and his kid, and I know if anything ever happened to me he'd take care of my girl, and kids.

    There was one time him and I were watching UFC, and getting all loud about the fights, and our girls were upstairs, having their girl time thing, they thought it would be funny to come downstairs and nag us, and when they came down there my friend was laying back with his head on my lap, and I was rubbing his stomach, the fights were over, and we were cracking up at this stupid show called "Manswers" and the girls were like "Aww look at the two cavemen getting their little bromance on" so they basically know the deal.

    As far as sexual stuff goes, we're both straight so going down on each other is not something that pops into our minds, though if my girl for whatever reason didn't want to go down on me, and I really really wanted that, he'd take care of it, and believe me that kind of stuff goes on between best friends, though it aint talked about haha. As for anal sex that's a no no. The thought of some dude trying to penetrate me, or me in my best friend like I would be in my girl, is a huge turnoff, and our relationship is 100% equal, so neither of us want to take on the role of the female and get penetrated, I personally feel if you let another man penetrate you as he would his woman, you lose your masculinity, I also think the anal sex is disgusting, and degrading, that's just how I feel about it, but if anyone out there likes it, more power to you, its just not for me. If stuff got all Bromosexual with us, we'd get into the whole frot thing, which we did do a few times.



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    Jan 15, 2009 9:09 PM GMT
    coolarmydude saidWatch the MTV show called Bromance. I saw the commercial for it a few times and was thinking that I was straight all of a sudden.


    Haha you too?
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    Jan 15, 2009 9:12 PM GMT
    lilTanker saidits not exactly gay dear, straight men need affection too and they need more then jut womanly affection..

    Guys need to bond with other guys, to be able to mess around with each other, be playful, get rough and all that shit, however they do it, they do it, my mates don't give a damn if they come across as gay to me, I know they are straight and there comfortable and confident with who they are, if they smack my arse, or grab me or jump on me, hell, sometimes when it goes far enough they simulate sex (oddly they are always the bottom) who cares, cause at the end of the day, straight men need love and affection and I don't give a shit if they are gay or straight just that they are happy.


    Exactly
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    Jan 15, 2009 11:07 PM GMT
    hmmmm, I understand males need bonding, but sexual bonding? I dunno....

    I don't want to step on anyone's dilusions, I'll let them trip over them themselves, because when they fall it's going to be in love

    Either way there's nothing wrong with it. It's great and beautiful and every other positive adjective you can think of. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Jan 16, 2009 12:05 AM GMT
    OK. Now, who has the biggest pee pee?

    Just kidding. That's for the frat house.
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    Jan 16, 2009 12:20 AM GMT
    Miasma saidhmmmm, I understand males need bonding, but sexual bonding? I dunno....

    I don't want to step on anyone's dilusions, I'll let them trip over them themselves, because when they fall it's going to be in love

    Either way there's nothing wrong with it. It's great and beautiful and every other positive adjective you can think of. icon_biggrin.gif



    How do you not understand male bonding?

    Women don't, well some do, my girlfriend, and his girl, get it... Guys have done the male bonding thing for centuries, only in today's world as I said many of em are afraid to express the normal natural emotions of being affectionate and what not with the other man. because they're afraid of getting slapped with the gay label, and there is nothing gay about being that way with another man, society today will try to tell you it is, and most of society today I have to say is wrong on so many things.

    I don't have anything against gay people, and I'm lucky enough to have family/friends who wouldn't care if I were gay, but I wish people would stop trying to label everyone in any and everything they do.