What makes separates someone who is slightly effeminate from the average guy?

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    Oct 09, 2014 12:35 PM GMT
    By slightly effeminate I mean someone who's not very colorful or loud or apes the female diva or the blond cheerleader personality. Just someone who is not interested in the typical guy things and may have some feminine hobbies. I mean they realize they're guys so that they're not trying to be girls, but they can appreciate girly stuff. Where do they stand in the gay community?
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    Oct 09, 2014 1:08 PM GMT
    Being saidBy slightly effeminate I mean someone who's not very colorful or loud or apes the female diva or the blond cheerleader personality. Just someone who is not interested in the typical guy things and may have some feminine hobbies. I mean they realize they're guys so that they're not trying to be girls, but they can appreciate girly stuff. Where do they stand in the gay community?


    Um, everywhere?
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    Oct 09, 2014 1:33 PM GMT
    I'm no grammar nazi but I have no idea what you're saying….so I'm just gonna have a ramble.

    I'm a big fan of Rupaul, I watch a lot of his interviews because I think he's one of the wisest, most fully developed, emotionally intelligent people in the world and according to him/she (and some conspiracy theorists) feminine goddess energy has been demonised in our culture by the churches and our world/DNA even has been saturated with GOD energy, theres nothing wrong with that but obviously we all know that its been a bit of an imbalance. Its programmed the majority of us and has been for a very long time, back in the old days a sexually empowered woman was a witch and burned, in the 60s the thought of a successful woman scared the shit out of people and even as the gay people have surfaced being seen as feminine is a weakness instead of an empowerment through liberation. I'm not pointing the finger or blame at anything or anyone but I can see how that is true and it gives me a heads up and a new perception on people who look down on the effeminate. People are people, MJ sang that it didn't matter if you're black or white in the 90s and now we have a whole spectrum of folk coming out of the woodwork as goddess energy is accepted more into our culture and eventually our little gay bubble that we live in is gonna burst and its not gonna matter, I just hate that people are so slow to catch on and it takes so long for us to evolve and live in the future already! :'(
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    Oct 09, 2014 1:46 PM GMT
    Being said... What makes separates someone who is slightly effeminate from the average guy ...


    its all an illusion; effeminate or manly, so NOTHING SPECIAL HERE, NOTHING SEPARATES YOU.
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
    Omega_Einhorne saidI'm no grammar nazi but I have no idea what you're saying….so I'm just gonna have a ramble.

    I'm a big fan of Rupaul, I watch a lot of his interviews because I think he's one of the wisest, most fully developed, emotionally intelligent people in the world and according to him/she (and some conspiracy theorists) feminine goddess energy has been demonised in our culture by the churches and our world/DNA even has been saturated with GOD energy, theres nothing wrong with that but obviously we all know that its been a bit of an imbalance. Its programmed the majority of us and has been for a very long time, back in the old days a sexually empowered woman was a witch and burned, in the 60s the thought of a successful woman scared the shit out of people and even as the gay people have surfaced being seen as feminine is a weakness instead of an empowerment through liberation. I'm not pointing the finger or blame at anything or anyone but I can see how that is true and it gives me a heads up and a new perception on people who look down on the effeminate. People are people, MJ sang that it didn't matter if you're black or white in the 90s and now we have a whole spectrum of folk coming out of the woodwork as goddess energy is accepted more into our culture and eventually our little gay bubble that we live in is gonna burst and its not gonna matter, I just hate that people are so slow to catch on and it takes so long for us to evolve and live in the future already! :'(


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    Oct 09, 2014 6:10 PM GMT
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    Oct 09, 2014 8:30 PM GMT
    Bodybuilders into Bravo TV that decorate with good taste would still rank high in the hierarchy.
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    Oct 09, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    Being saidBy slightly effeminate I mean someone who's not very colorful or loud or apes the female diva or the blond cheerleader personality. Just someone who is not interested in the typical guy things and may have some feminine hobbies. I mean they realize they're guys so that they're not trying to be girls, but they can appreciate girly stuff. Where do they stand in the gay community?


    Are you necessarily talking about gay guys? Not all straight guys are necessarily interested in "typical guy things." Where do they stand in the straight community?

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    Oct 10, 2014 1:33 AM GMT
    Being saidBy slightly effeminate I mean someone who's not very colorful or loud or apes the female diva or the blond cheerleader personality. Just someone who is not interested in the typical guy things and may have some feminine hobbies. I mean they realize they're guys so that they're not trying to be girls, but they can appreciate girly stuff. Where do they stand in the gay community?
    You just perfectly described half the straight guys I know.
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    Oct 10, 2014 4:06 AM GMT
    Just curious: what "feminine hobbies"?

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    Oct 10, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    i think everyone here have more questions than answers...

    but like.

    define "slightly"

    what makes something "slightly" and what makes something "not slightly"
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    Oct 10, 2014 10:33 AM GMT
    YVRguy saidJust curious: what "feminine hobbies"?

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    Sewing
    Needlepoint
    Knitting
    Crocheting
    Baking
    Cooking
    Gardening
    Jewelry-making
    Flower Arranging



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    Oct 11, 2014 7:31 AM GMT
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    YVRguy saidJust curious: what "feminine hobbies"?

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    Sewing
    Needlepoint
    Knitting
    Crocheting
    Baking
    Cooking
    Gardening
    Jewelry-making
    Flower Arranging



    Not going to opine on the others, but there really is nothing feminine about cooking as a hobby. It's often been said (accurately or not) that most of the world's great chefs are men. And I don't think most of those men are gay or behave in ways that many people might regard as more feminine than the average guy. Cooking is man's work as much as it is woman's work.
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    Oct 11, 2014 8:27 AM GMT
    silver_phoenix said
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    Being said... What makes separates someone who is slightly effeminate from the average guy ...


    its all an illusion; effeminate or manly, so NOTHING SPECIAL HERE, NOTHING SEPARATES YOU.


    No, it is not an illusion, gender is grounded in biology. The lesbian deconstructionist feminist Judith Butler claims gender is merely performative but she is a mannish lesbian so of course she would want to believe that.icon_wink.gif


    I love to giggle at threads like this where guys think that being gym buff or a big cock means masculinity. Awww so cute you guys who think that, but dam once you have met more people and see that it ain't so you may even laugh along with me. Masculine vs doesn't matter that much at all but the difference, that's the attitude and what you like to do, how you handle situations, your likes and dislikes or in other words your actions and attitude combined. Madonna, Kylie, Ga Ga or Beyoncé = fem, real men don't idolise to be like women so those wouldn't be choices of a non fem
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    Oct 11, 2014 10:11 AM GMT
    I am effeminate and I don't like Madonna, Lady Gaga or any of those sub-par singers who call themselves 'artists'.
    Being effeminate has nothing to do with what you like because there are plenty of masculine guys who love to cook, make clothes, bake, or make jewellery.
    You can have a guy that loves doing the most prissiest things, but if he has a deep voice, hairy chest, muscular, grown beard or whatever else is branded as masculine, people will just call him an 'open minded' guy.
    You have another guy who is into the same things but is skinny, not hairy, higher pitched tonality, and people will straight away call him "fag" and label him a 'woman wannabe'.

    Nowadays being called effeminate is strictly based on the exterior and the aesthetics and has nothing to do with the person's character or integrity.
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    Oct 11, 2014 10:22 AM GMT
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    MartyredNeons saidI am effeminate and I don't like Madonna, Lady Gaga or any of those sub-par singers who call themselves 'artists'.
    Being effeminate has nothing to do with what you like because there are plenty of masculine guys who love to cook, make clothes, bake, or make jewellery.
    You can have a guy that loves doing the most prissiest things, but if he has a deep voice, hairy chest, muscular, grown beard or whatever else is branded as masculine, people will just call him an 'open minded' guy.
    You have another guy who is into the same things but is skinny, not hairy, higher pitched tonality, and people will straight away call him "fag" and label him a 'woman wannabe'.

    Nowadays being called effeminate is strictly based on the exterior and the aesthetics and has nothing to do with the person's character or integrity.


    You probably love Cher or some other equivalent of Madonna or Lady Gaga.icon_rolleyes.gif


    No, I've actually not heard any of Cher's songs or at least wasn't aware it's her song if I did happen to hear it.
    I actually have a disdain for most pop artists nowadays because they have below average voices and just rely on their bodies to sell music and then they'll label themselves an 'artist'.
    I'm sorry if that offends anyone but honestly if you are actually going to sing, then the basic minimum requirement should be that you CAN actually sing and sound good doing it.
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    Oct 17, 2014 1:02 AM GMT
    Every guy is effeminate to a certain degree...even your "average" guy.
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