3 Naked Guys Outside My Door

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    Oct 09, 2014 3:31 PM GMT
    They were just lounging on the sundeck yesterday afternoon, I saw them out our French door. "Let's go out this door as we leave," I suggested. We walked past them, and they got up to intoduce themselves. Always a pleasure to shake hands with a stark naked man.

    Then past the pool below, and more naked men, to have some drinks at the outdoor garden bar. Yep, we're in Key West again, arrived yesterday. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 09, 2014 5:51 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidThey were just lounging on the sundeck yesterday afternoon, I saw them out our French door. "Let's go out this door as we leave," I suggested. We walked past them, and they got up to intoduce themselves. Always a pleasure to shake hands with a stark naked man.

    Then past the pool below, and more naked men, to have some drinks at the outdoor garden bar. Yep, we're in Key West again, arrived yesterday. icon_biggrin.gif


    Do you get a commission for everyone who visits as the result of your description of what it's like to be there?

    How about letting us know where you are staying?
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:09 PM GMT
    Pictures or it never happened!
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:21 PM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Art_Deco saidThey were just lounging on the sundeck yesterday afternoon, I saw them out our French door. "Let's go out this door as we leave," I suggested. We walked past them, and they got up to intoduce themselves. Always a pleasure to shake hands with a stark naked man.

    Then past the pool below, and more naked men, to have some drinks at the outdoor garden bar. Yep, we're in Key West again, arrived yesterday. icon_biggrin.gif

    Do you get a commission for everyone who visits as the result of your description of what it's like to be there?

    How about letting us know where you are staying?

    New Orleans House is the male-only guest house, part of the Bourbon St. Complex, at 724 Duval Street. Island House on Fleming is also all gay, all naked (well, when guys choose), but quite a distance from the heart of Old Town along Duval. The Equator is another gay guest house, midway down Fleming, but a lot smaller and with limited features. But some couples like the more intimate adult quiet.

    Nope, I don't get a commission. It just part of the sharing of info I think we should all do here. If you live in a good place that other guys would like, tell us about it.
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:26 PM GMT
    musicdude saidPictures or it never happened!

    I always post personal pics on RJ, sometimes of me being naked in KW, too. icon_eek.gif

    We just got here, over a week remaining, in no rush to take new pics. And even then not as easy to edit and post online from the iPad as from my iMac. They will wait until we're back home. But don't worry, I will. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:41 PM GMT
    I just visited the web site of The New Orleans House, where you are staying, and checked the rates. It must be nice to be rich!
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    FRE0 saidI just visited the web site of The New Orleans House, where you are staying, and checked the rates. It must be nice to be rich!

    The rates for the few remaining gay guest houses have indeed been going up, after all the sell-outs to straight companies. Simple supply & demand. We've never paid this much before, but it's what the market will bear.

    At the same time, most Key West hotels have upwards of a dozen different rates throughout the year. There are basic seasonal rates for summer (low) and winter (high). Then there are event and holiday rates. Just as we depart KW begins the week of Fantasy Fest (which we've attended), a premium rate. And the Bone Island Festival (mostly gay). There are women's weeks, and leather weeks, New Year's Eve is very high, and so forth.

    We're still in the lower summer rate right now, plus we also get a discount for being regular guests. That's how we can afford 8 nights - 9 days. Then when we return next month for the mid-November SMART Ride we all get a special SMART Ride discount (we already have our reservations for 6 days, plus an additional night in a Marathon Key resort on the way down, and more nights in Miami before we depart).

    It pays to negotiate by phone, despite the convenience of online. And get on mailing lists, for unannounced short-notice manager's specials. We're gotten the most expensive rooms you saw online for NOH for some $90 that way.

    They find themselves underbooked for a weekend, and bet against a last minute reservation happening at the regular rate. Better to book at a rate that at least pays their overhead than going vacant.

    Being retired, and almost always ready to drive a mere 193 miles, versus flying from Ohio for instance, we can snatch those up. No, we're not rich, we just know how to leverage the modest resources we have, for the things we like.
  • brickboy1966

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    Oct 09, 2014 11:05 PM GMT
    Yeah I agree with Musicdude
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    brickboy1966 saidYeah I agree with Musicdude

    Either you are too new here to have seen all my nude pics from Key West previously, or you never opened those threads. Others on RJ have. Me nude, other guys nude, guys engaged in nude contests supervised by the DJ for free drinks

    In any case, as I said, you must wait until I return home next week. Then you will have what you wish. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 10, 2014 12:53 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    brickboy1966 saidYeah I agree with Musicdude

    Either you are too new here to have seen all my nude pics from Key West previously, or you never opened those threads. Others on RJ have. Me nude, other guys nude, guys engaged in nude contests supervised by the DJ for free drinks

    In any case, as I said, you must wait until I return home next week. Then you will have what you wish. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Well naturally, we can all appreciate how a naked gay man at a gay resort would make YOU vomit. icon_wink.gif
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    Oct 10, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
    brickboy1966 saidYeah I agree with Musicdude

    Either you are too new here to have seen all my nude pics from Key West previously, or you never opened those threads. Others on RJ have. Me nude, other guys nude, guys engaged in nude contests supervised by the DJ for free drinks

    In any case, as I said, you must wait until I return home next week. Then you will have what you wish. icon_biggrin.gif

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    Well naturally, we can all appreciate how a naked gay man at a gay resort would make YOU vomit. icon_wink.gif

    Nope - just the image of YOU naked is all it takes.

    Then please relate your own, less vomitous gay experiences. You never have, in 7 years here. Isn't that odd? Never expressed an interest in a gay pic here, never related a gay experience, never commented on the guys posting about them here. I wonder WHY? There's the real vomit on a gay site.
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    Oct 10, 2014 12:57 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    FRE0 saidI just visited the web site of The New Orleans House, where you are staying, and checked the rates. It must be nice to be rich!

    The rates for the few remaining gay guest houses have indeed been going up, after all the sell-outs to straight companies. Simple supply & demand. We've never paid this much before, but it's what the market will bear.

    At the same time, most Key West hotels have upwards of a dozen different rates throughout the year. There are basic seasonal rates for summer (low) and winter (high). Then there are event and holiday rates. Just as we depart KW begins the week of Fantasy Fest (which we've attended), a premium rate. And the Bone Island Festival (mostly gay). There are women's weeks, and leather weeks, New Year's Eve is very high, and so forth.

    We're still in the lower summer rate right now, plus we also get a discount for being regular guests. That's how we can afford 8 nights - 9 days. Then when we return next month for the mid-November SMART Ride we all get a special SMART Ride discount (we already have our reservations for 6 days, plus an additional night in a Marathon Key resort on the way down, and more nights in Miami before we depart).

    It pays to negotiate by phone, despite the convenience of online. And get on mailing lists, for unannounced short-notice manager's specials. We're gotten the most expensive rooms you saw online for NOH for some $90 that way.

    They find themselves underbooked for a weekend, and bet against a last minute reservation happening at the regular rate. Better to book at a rate that at least pays their overhead than going vacant.

    Being retired, and almost always ready to drive a mere 193 miles, versus flying from Ohio for instance, we can snatch those up. No, we're not rich, we just know how to leverage the modest resources we have, for the things we like.


    The short distance certainly makes a difference; you can drive it perhaps in about three hours rather than spending four days driving or attempting to make airplane reservations on short notice.

    A year ago, I rode to San Diego by motorcycle; it was about 850 miles and I spent two nights in motels before I arrived. Black's beach has hundreds, or even thousands, of nude men, but of course most are not gay. I went to the the beach only twice since there were other things to do. Fortunately, even at my advanced age, I can still climb the 300 foot cliff. Near the end of the photos, you can find a photo of the challenging stairs.

    http://russelrayphotos2.com/tag/blacks-beach-san-diego/

    Traveling by motorcycle makes it easier to find a parking place.
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    Oct 10, 2014 1:09 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Traveling by motorcycle makes it easier to find a parking place.

    My very first trip to Key West in 1973 was by motorcycle, when I was stationed in Georgia. And for the next 20 years that's how I always traveled to KW, and alternately with cars after that. But initially on the old Flagler bridges, which were a nightmare until the new ones were built.

    And yeah, I could always find a parking space. But the biggest benefit was the trip itself, after the new bridges were put up. Motorycling is like flying one foot off the ground, and on these high bridges I'd be in mid-air with blue sky above and turquoise water below, warm air in my face. Nothing like it in the world.
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    Oct 10, 2014 1:13 AM GMT
    FRE0 saidI just visited the web site of The New Orleans House, where you are staying, and checked the rates. It must be nice to be rich!


    Lol, rich? I checked the rates too. I work at a hotel/resort in the Rockies and we're at our cheapest rates of the year. $460 for a basic single king bed and fireplace. Last winter we peaked at $1200 a night, again, for a basic room. Rates only go up from there.
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    Oct 10, 2014 1:15 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    You know why? Because I'm not YOU.

    I didn't hide in the closet until I was almost 50 years old. You did.

    I don't have any guilt about having hidden in the closet because I never did. You DO have guilt.

    I don't feel the need to boast about my "gay credentials" in a pathetic attempt to seek validation from other gay guys that I am a "good gay." You DO.

    If you truly believe that in order to be gay people need to meet YOUR standards, you're a megalomaniac - or just posting while drunk yet again.

    As always you reply with an ad hominem attack, while evading the question.

    No matter what who may (falsely) claim about my own orientation, you have NO gay credentials at all to present here. Never have. You still haven't done that. Not a single thing in 7 years to even remotely validate that you are gay yourself. That doesn't pass unnoticed here.

    Or would you like to finally do something about it? I've asked you many times before. Are you ready yet?
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    Oct 10, 2014 1:24 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    southbeach1500 said
    You know why? Because I'm not YOU.

    I didn't hide in the closet until I was almost 50 years old. You did.

    I don't have any guilt about having hidden in the closet because I never did. You DO have guilt.

    I don't feel the need to boast about my "gay credentials" in a pathetic attempt to seek validation from other gay guys that I am a "good gay." You DO.

    If you truly believe that in order to be gay people need to meet YOUR standards, you're a megalomaniac - or just posting while drunk yet again.

    As always you reply with an ad hominem attack, while evading the question.

    No matter what who may (falsely) claim about my own orientation, you have NO gay credentials at all to present here. Never have. You still haven't done that. Not a single thing in 7 years to even remotely validate that you are gay yourself. That doesn't pass unnoticed here.

    Or would you like to finally do something about it? I've asked you many times before. Are you ready yet?


    Art, he's still closeted.
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    Oct 10, 2014 1:35 AM GMT
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    Art, he's still closeted.

    Why do you think that? Your opinion, or something else?

    If I thought he was closeted I would extend a helping hand. But do you see what he says to me, accusing ME of being closeted myself, and abusing me about it, when I never was?

    I'd really like to know what makes you say that, seriously. And you can PE me if needed.
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    Oct 10, 2014 3:43 AM GMT
    To your detractors, Robert:

    Sadness, scarab
    with seven crippled feet,
    spiderweb egg,
    scramble-brained rat,
    bitch's skeleton:
    No entry here.
    Don't come in.
    Go away.
    Go back
    south with your umbrella,
    go back
    north with your serpent's teeth.
    A poet lives here.
    No sadness may
    cross this threshold.
    Through these windows
    comes the breath of the world,
    fresh red roses,
    flags embroidered with
    the victories of the people.
    No.
    No entry.
    Flap
    your bat's wings,
    I will trample the feathers
    that fall from your mantle,
    I will sweep the bits and pieces
    of your carcass to
    the four corners of the wind,
    I will wring your neck,
    I will stitch your eyelids shut,
    I will sew your shroud,
    sadness, and bury your rodent bones
    beneath the springtime of an apple tree.
    Pablo Neruda
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    Oct 10, 2014 7:08 AM GMT
    bon_pan saidTo your detractors, Robert:

    Sadness, scarab
    with seven crippled feet,
    spiderweb egg,
    scramble-brained rat,
    bitch's skeleton:
    No entry here.
    Don't come in.
    Go away.
    Go back
    south with your umbrella,
    go back
    north with your serpent's teeth.
    A poet lives here.
    No sadness may
    cross this threshold.
    Through these windows
    comes the breath of the world,
    fresh red roses,
    flags embroidered with
    the victories of the people.
    No.
    No entry.
    Flap
    your bat's wings,
    I will trample the feathers
    that fall from your mantle,
    I will sweep the bits and pieces
    of your carcass to
    the four corners of the wind,
    I will wring your neck,
    I will stitch your eyelids shut,
    I will sew your shroud,
    sadness, and bury your rodent bones
    beneath the springtime of an apple tree.
    Pablo Neruda


    It's too bad I'm not older. I would have given Pablo advice on his writing: "Take two weeks off, then quit for good."
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    Oct 10, 2014 8:32 PM GMT
    1blind_dog said
    FRE0 saidI just visited the web site of The New Orleans House, where you are staying, and checked the rates. It must be nice to be rich!


    Lol, rich? I checked the rates too. I work at a hotel/resort in the Rockies and we're at our cheapest rates of the year. $460 for a basic single king bed and fireplace. Last winter we peaked at $1200 a night, again, for a basic room. Rates only go up from there.

    Wow, people are rich in USA.
  • 1blind_dog

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    Oct 10, 2014 10:26 PM GMT
    The ones that visit and own property in my area are at least. I could never afford to stay where I work.
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    Oct 11, 2014 2:57 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Art_Deco said
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    Art_Deco said
    brickboy1966 saidYeah I agree with Musicdude

    Either you are too new here to have seen all my nude pics from Key West previously, or you never opened those threads. Others on RJ have. Me nude, other guys nude, guys engaged in nude contests supervised by the DJ for free drinks

    In any case, as I said, you must wait until I return home next week. Then you will have what you wish. icon_biggrin.gif

    throw+up+emoticon.jpg

    Well naturally, we can all appreciate how a naked gay man at a gay resort would make YOU vomit. icon_wink.gif


    Nope - just the image of YOU naked is all it takes.


    You set a wonderful example for civilized, courteous, and considerate behavior.
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    Oct 11, 2014 3:00 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    FRE0 said
    Art, he's still closeted.

    Why do you think that? Your opinion, or something else?

    If I thought he was closeted I would extend a helping hand. But do you see what he says to me, accusing ME of being closeted myself, and abusing me about it, when I never was?

    I'd really like to know what makes you say that, seriously. And you can PE me if needed.


    Projecting is quite common. Doesn't it seem likely to you that he is projecting?
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    Oct 11, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    FRE0 said
    Art, he's still closeted.

    Why do you think that? Your opinion, or something else?

    If I thought he was closeted I would extend a helping hand. But do you see what he says to me, accusing ME of being closeted myself, and abusing me about it, when I never was?

    I'd really like to know what makes you say that, seriously. And you can PE me if needed.


    Projecting is quite common. Doesn't it seem likely to you that he is projecting?
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    Oct 11, 2014 3:46 AM GMT
    FRE0 said
    Art_Deco said
    FRE0 said
    Art, he's still closeted.

    Why do you think that? Your opinion, or something else?

    If I thought he was closeted I would extend a helping hand. But do you see what he says to me, accusing ME of being closeted myself, and abusing me about it, when I never was?

    I'd really like to know what makes you say that, seriously. And you can PE me if needed.

    Projecting is quite common. Doesn't it seem likely to you that he is projecting?

    Certainly plausible, but unproven in his case. I understand about projection. I had a BF whose every flaw he projected onto me.

    But people who project usually cannot be reasoned with. Certainly not by someone like me, unqualified in that field, and interacting online rather than in person, to boot.

    So I'm not sure what useful info this suggestion gives me. It's certainly a hypothesis to explain some things, But what do I do with it?