Ebola case in Dallas pandemic or contained?

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    Oct 09, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    There's rumors of outbreaks in Dallas metroplex. icon_exclaim.gif Any input appreciated.
  • Svnw688

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    Oct 09, 2014 5:22 PM GMT
    Umm, I have seen NO such "rumors" about an outbreak, or even additional cases, in the Dallas metroplex. It's likely just a case of Dallas not being used to dealing with threats, and overreacting. It hasn't been through what NYC has (1993 WTC bombing, 2001 9/11, 2007 steam explosion, 2010 Times Square Bomb Plot, and other constant threats we hear about but don't make national news). Atlanta has dealt with the Summer Olympics explosion circa 1992. Boston's dealt with the bombing in 2013. Even OKC has a thicker skin. And I don't mean to be myopic. I know NYCers are hardened, but we couldn't handle what Israelis handle with the sirens, iron dome and bombings.

    Dallas, under any standard, is a rookie. It's developing it's first callous, as the one it had developed when the city took JFK has fallen off from time. It's natural that people who aren't under threat overreact to an actual threat. Dallas finally has the spotlight and it's DIVA-ing out. Just relax, take it with a grain of salt, monitor CREDIBLE news sources, and use common sense. You'll be fine, and Dallas denizens will learn to cope like the rest of us.
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    Oct 09, 2014 5:39 PM GMT
    Svnw688 said...monitor CREDIBLE news sources...


    How does one monitor that which does not exist?
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    Oct 09, 2014 5:47 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    Svnw688 said...monitor CREDIBLE news sources...


    How does one monitor that which does not exist?


    Fair point...touche icon_cool.gif
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:12 PM GMT
    I won't be surprised that the handling of Ebola will be royally flubbed terribly and we will see outbreaks here in the US and other first world countries. Our safety is being jeopardized on the altar of political correctness everyday. No one travelling from countries where there is an Ebola outbreak should be allowed into countries where there is no Ebola until after a period of quarantine and medical observation. No one should be allowed into unaffected countries for treatment. No one - I don't care who you are or whether you contracted it through no fault of your own or through caring for Ebola patients (doctor or no doctor). The US and other first world countries need to set up proper health care in the countries already affected and not risk spreading it around the globe.

    This could turn into a pandemic like the bubonic plague.
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:24 PM GMT
    You need to look up the definition of pandemic.
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    Oct 09, 2014 6:44 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidThis could turn into a pandemic like the bubonic plague.

    No, it really couldn't. As long as you don't have sex with, make out with, or touch someone who has the disease or his/her bodily fluids you can't get it. It's a shitty disease, but it's NOT very contagious.

    More people die of the flu every day than during the entire ebola outbreak so far.
  • Lincsbear

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    Oct 09, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
    It would be interesting to see how many have died from malaria and TB in the same countries over the same period.
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    Oct 09, 2014 7:46 PM GMT
    Bubonic plague is endemic in the United States. In particular, prairie dogs in Texas are a large reservoir. Not too many people are dying from it. But you know, they could. Should we prohibit anyone from leaving Texas without a quarantine period?
  • tinus37

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    Oct 09, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
    The sad thing is... I am an South African that is moving to Mesquite / West Dallas and went to look at an apartment today and was told that I can't rent at the location 'Cause we want non of that Ebola' by the woman.
    It's funny considering that South Africa has not YET seen a break out. Granted they really tightened the borders now.
    So that said I personally think Dallas needs to get over it self. It's bad i get it, but if people work together anything is possible. As far as my opinion on the mater, ONE Death is nothing in the larger scale of things.

    just a thought...
  • Bevik

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    Oct 09, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
    Erik101 saidYou need to look up the definition of pandemic.


    ^ this

    p.s. I'm sick of everyone being an armchair expert on this topic
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    Oct 09, 2014 8:18 PM GMT
    Well, you don't exactly consult a social website for regular experts.

    So I have a pain running down my arm. What do you guys think it is?
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    Oct 09, 2014 8:47 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidBubonic plague is endemic in the United States. In particular, prairie dogs in Texas are a large reservoir. Not too many people are dying from it. But you know, they could. Should we prohibit anyone from leaving Texas without a quarantine period?


    I've actually always said Texans should not be allowed to leave their state. icon_razz.gif
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    Oct 09, 2014 9:13 PM GMT
    Bart_Frost said
    UndercoverMan saidThis could turn into a pandemic like the bubonic plague.

    No, it really couldn't. As long as you don't have sex with, make out with, or touch someone who has the disease or his/her bodily fluids you can't get it. It's a shitty disease, but it's NOT very contagious.

    More people die of the flu every day than during the entire ebola outbreak so far.


    ...so far.
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    Oct 09, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
    mindgarden saidBubonic plague is endemic in the United States. In particular, prairie dogs in Texas are a large reservoir. Not too many people are dying from it. But you know, they could. Should we prohibit anyone from leaving Texas without a quarantine period?


    No, just prairie dogs. Well, on second though we shouldn't let people from Texas ever leave either - not a bad idea.
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    Oct 09, 2014 9:15 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidWell, you don't exactly consult a social website for regular experts.

    So I have a pain running down my arm. What do you guys think it is?


    Ebola
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    Oct 09, 2014 9:18 PM GMT
    Come on guys! This guy shows up at a hospital with symptoms, says he came from Liberia, and they send him home. And you still think it can't happen here?
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    Oct 09, 2014 9:23 PM GMT
    Bart_Frost said
    UndercoverMan saidThis could turn into a pandemic like the bubonic plague.

    No, it really couldn't. As long as you don't have sex with, make out with, or touch someone who has the disease or his/her bodily fluids you can't get it. It's a shitty disease, but it's NOT very contagious.

    More people die of the flu every day than during the entire ebola outbreak so far.



    And we all know how well HIV/AIDS is under control in Africa.
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    Oct 09, 2014 9:33 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    Bart_Frost said
    UndercoverMan saidThis could turn into a pandemic like the bubonic plague.

    No, it really couldn't. As long as you don't have sex with, make out with, or touch someone who has the disease or his/her bodily fluids you can't get it. It's a shitty disease, but it's NOT very contagious.

    More people die of the flu every day than during the entire ebola outbreak so far.



    And we all know how well HIV/AIDS is under control in Africa.

    HIV/AIDS is a disease that goes without symptoms for months or years, so people often transmit it without even realizing they have it. On top of that using condoms is considered taboo. It's a major problem, true, but ebola's spread isn't primarily because of people who have it having sex.
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    Oct 09, 2014 11:31 PM GMT
    Newsflash uninformed liberals, it's 2014 not 1936.

    Obama is responsible for the USA's vulnerability to Ebola.

    Obama administration scrapped quarantine regulations in 2010:

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-04-01-quarantine_N.htm

    Now he won't shut the borders and increases the chance it comes to the US by sending troops. As usual, too little too late.
  • sportsjockla

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    Oct 10, 2014 1:39 AM GMT
    Any guesses why an infected man was sent home? GOP ignorance! No health Insurance, so hospital sent him home. Now he's dead!
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    Oct 10, 2014 1:42 AM GMT
    mx5guynj saidNewsflash uninformed liberals, it's 2014 not 1936.

    Obama is responsible for the USA's vulnerability to Ebola.

    Obama administration scrapped quarantine regulations in 2010:

    http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2010-04-01-quarantine_N.htm

    Now he won't shut the borders and increases the chance it comes to the US by sending troops. As usual, too little too late.


    Newsflash Ignorant Repuke! Your ignorant party, you know the one that wants to take away your rights you idiot, well you morons said No to fight ebola!

    http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/217115-gop-cuts-obamas-ebola-funding-request

    GOP puts military at risk with their ignorance

    http://www.navytimes.com/article/20140924/NEWS05/309240062/Inhofe-holds-up-Ebola-funding-demands-details
  • Svnw688

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    Oct 10, 2014 1:53 AM GMT
    While I think it won't become epidemic--simply because from a scientific standpoint it's so fragile (i.e., cannot live outside of bodily fluids very long) and is not very communicable (there is a difference between communicability and virulence/lethality), I am dumbstruck by how some of you (not all) sound like sheep.

    "The government will protect us."
    "This could never happen int he USA."
    "We have an advanced medical system."

    Do any of you know the ratio for medical beds to USA people?

    Do any of you know the ratio of doctors to USA people?

    Have any of you witnessed a difference between a THEORETICAL ability to stop transmission, and the ACTUAL ability to stop transmission?

    Are any of you aware of how once the limited ER beds, ventilators, IV drips, and doctors are taken, how the situation will go from "serious" to "absolute chaos?"

    You all do realize that IF we get 10 cases, that turn into 100, and then 1,000 in an area, that the city (looks like Dallas as of now, but could be any major city) will turn into NOLA after Katrina in about 1 week? Honestly, your faith in the medical system, the CDC, and the "medical establishment" writ large (which does not have enough beds, nurses, blood, ventilators, IV drips for you) is astonishing. Reminds me of the people who rode Katrina out and "didn't see that situation coming." Without sounding alarmist, we're all about 2 weeks from societal anarchy (lost of power, loss of water, no food in grocery stores, no truck deliveries, looting, pilaging, work stoppage, internet dead, robberies rampant, state of nature). Don't be so basic. Undercoverman isn't that far off given that with our FIRST and only real case, we've rejected the man for days from a hospital, exposed dozens to Ebola WHILE he was contagious, refused transfusion blood (available for only the first few dozen people) for a week, failed to clean up the apartment for 5 days AFTER the Ebola diagnosis, kept the family in the same apartment for days AFTER the Ebola diagnosis.

    Just stop pretending we're so much better than Africa. After a few dozen go to the ER in every city with it, or something like it, we're hosed. Most urban ERs have 3 ER doctors on staff, and 2 on call for a mass casualty (bus wreck, etc.). Don't kid yourself.

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    Oct 10, 2014 2:52 AM GMT
    I think the obvious/logical step would be to implement a travel ban to/from countries that are experiencing ebola outbreaks.
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    Oct 10, 2014 3:10 AM GMT
    Psht, well keep that shit in Dallas then...