carew28 saidWell, it does seem as though the Church is trying to make an effort to be welcoming to gays, on an official level. On the local level, most parishes (maybe with the exception of a few) have always accepted gay people on a "don't ask, don't tell" level.They were welcomed, even as gay persons, as long as they kept their sexuality to themselves. Same with Catholic high-schools and colleges. This is treating gays as second-class citizens, but it's basically the same attitude as the government had, until recently.
Springfield has a new bishop now. From first impressions on the news, he seems like a good guy. It will be interesting to see how he turns out.
Even "ultimate truth" changes with time. They just got around to acknowledging that Galileo was right a few years ago, that must have been quite a big step for them. Better late than never. It seems as though they're now trying to quietly shed their past "implicit condemnation" and replace it with a "welcoming home" type of attitude.
Even history changes based upon future perceptions, additional information, etc., and while some truths might rely for their veracity on circumstance which might alter or facts which can change, other truths are either more enduring regardless of situation or as in the case of an institution claiming to speak for omniscience certainly ought to be at least immutable given God.
That being treated as a second class citizen is "basically the same attitude as the government had" (government we the people have the power to change, by the way) hardly excuses an institution of intimacy, be it family which might toss out a gay child, a partnership where some pervert uses homophobia to try and manipulate "love" or certainly a church which by its nature, and particularly true of the Christian churches as I understand them (with their priests as mediators), interjects themselves between adherents and their God (in prayers) or their conscience (in atonements). Life doesn't get much more personal or intrusive than that. Thereby seems to me a special responsibility to never violate such sanctity. If there's an abomination in the house, that's it, not us.
Second class? I wouldn't put up with that from an internet stranger, not from a so-called friend turned bad--talk about changing truths--a family member, a colleague or a pastor. Until they attest to us as equal, they can all go fuck themselves.
It is especially horrifying to me to see in an institution which claims to be sanctuary from the evils of the world to so insidiously inject the poisons of their pulpit. We welcome you to watch someone else's marriage, their happiness, but not to be for thee.
I'm not convinced that making room at the back of the pews is a very welcoming attitude. Unless, of course, someone back there is sucking dick.