Black leaders applaud marriage protection ruling

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    Oct 17, 2014 6:49 PM GMT
    Figured I'd post commentary from "leaders" that aren't "slamming" the Supremes' (non-)decision but are, in fact, embracing it.

    Starting with this dude. A "leader" who actually leads something other than his own flock:

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    “I am pleased to announce that the federal government will recognize the same-sex marriages now taking place in the affected states, and I have directed lawyers here at the Department of Justice to work with our colleagues at agencies across the Administration to ensure that all applicable federal benefits are extended to those couples as soon as possible,” Holder said. “We will not delay in fulfilling our responsibility to afford every eligible couple, whether same-sex or opposite-sex, the full rights and responsibilities to which they are entitled.”

    http://www.washingtonblade.com/2014/10/17/obama-admin-recognize-sex-marriage-7-new-states/
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    Oct 17, 2014 6:53 PM GMT
    Oh boy, now the fat old white righwingers of this site will have sore anuses. Bring on the drama. icon_cool.gif


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    Oct 17, 2014 6:55 PM GMT
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    U.S. Rep. Steven Horsford (Nevada, 4th District)

    “Today is a victory for equality for all Nevadans. Same-sex couples will finally be able to marry in the Silver State. This decision, along with the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to decline hearing similar appeals, reaffirms the belief of so many Americans that love is love. The modern civil rights movement for marriage equality is gaining momentum every day. Soon, Americans in all fifty states will be free to marry those they love."

    http://horsford.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/horsford-statement-on-ninth-circuit-courts-decision-to-strike-down

    https://www.facebook.com/RepHorsford/posts/478654062190093
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    Oct 17, 2014 7:41 PM GMT
    silver_phoenix saidHijacking a straight social institution will solve none of your problems, it will only make them worse.


    As kevex predicted,
    "Oh boy, now the fat old white righwingers of this site will have sore anuses."
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:12 PM GMT
    silver_phoenix saidHijacking a straight social institution will solve none of your problems, it will only make them worse.

    I should show this to my husband. He'll have a good laugh.
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:13 PM GMT
    U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore (Wisconsin, 4th District)

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    "I was elated to learn that our LGBT brothers and sisters will soon be able to legally marry the ones they love. The U.S. Supreme Court’s rejection of appeals from Wisconsin and four other states seeking to prohibit gay marriage is truly a historic victory for love and equality.

    "For the people of the great state of Wisconsin, our diversity is a source of strength. My constituents have stood by my side as we fought together against intolerance and discrimination. We have worked tirelessly to make Milwaukee a community of inclusion and respect for all. I am proud of our collective efforts and even more proud to report that Milwaukee clerks will soon begin issuing licenses to same-sex couples."

    http://gwenmoore.house.gov/press-releases/moore-applauds-supreme-court-decision-on-samesex-marriage/
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:16 PM GMT
    Posting those images will give the white supremacists that bash Uganda but love Russia a stroke. icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:17 PM GMT
    silver_phoenix saidHijacking a straight social institution will solve none of your problems, it will only make them worse.


    Bullshit. Your country as well as ours has marriage for gays and nothing happened. In Canada's case, ten years now.

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    Oct 17, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
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    U.S. Rep. Steven Horsford (Nevada, 4th District)

    “Today is a victory for equality for all Nevadans. Same-sex couples will finally be able to marry in the Silver State. This decision, along with the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to decline hearing similar appeals, reaffirms the belief of so many Americans that love is love. The modern civil rights movement for marriage equality is gaining momentum every day. Soon, Americans in all fifty states will be free to marry those they love."

    http://horsford.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/horsford-statement-on-ninth-circuit-courts-decision-to-strike-down

    https://www.facebook.com/RepHorsford/posts/478654062190093


    *looks at palm* That's interesting - he has the M for marriage in his palm. He also has a proclivity for a balance in character in his choice of partner. Smack dab between desiring a person everyone will admire, and a person who is handy and practical and knows what love is and how to reciprocate it. For this man, character is as important as appearance.
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
    Larry Kramer saidThe historic and cultural significance of this moment is that once again the gay population of this country continues to accept second best. These marriages, in whichever state, are what I call ‘feel-good marriages.’ They convey little in the way of benefits (and in some instances they are even financially punishing to those who embark on them). Compared to the benefits heterosexual marriages convey, gay marriages are an embarrassment — that we should accept so little, and with so much hoopla of excitement and self-congratulation. Most straight people who are congratulating us so effusively don’t understand that these marriages share none of their federal benefits and entitlements, the right to inherit without punishing taxation, the right for our joint incomes not to be taxed so hideously high, the right to share insurances — there are over one thousand benefits worth money that the federal government bestows on heterosexual marriages and which our state marriages don’t. So why do we continue to get so excited when so few worthless crumbs are thrown our way? I have from the beginning never understood the philosophy and tactics of our various organizations who appear to be calling the shots on this issue. If we are to wait for a majority of states to recognize gay marriages, we'll all be dead. When are we going to recognize that until the Supreme Court blesses our union, we continue to be worthless and powerless, which is the way our enemies wish us to remain. When will we face up to the fact that no sooner does a state grant us marriage, than our enemies immediately tie up the courts in endless litigations to disallow them, as in the monstrous mess that has become California. Our enemies have bottomless pockets to fight us with. It has been discovered that the biggest contributors to the California wars are and have been the Mormon and Catholic churches. I do not disparage any gay couple's desire to wed in New York, or anywhere else, and in so doing feel and take joy from this act. But let us all recognize that beyond this euphoria, these marriages are hardly worth the paper they are printed on. And once again, I can only raise the cry: how long are we as a people going to accept such shabby and unequal treatment?

    http://www.advocate.com/politics/commentary/2011/07/27/op-ed-larry-kramer-says-he39s-being-tarred-something-i-did-not-say
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:25 PM GMT
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    silver_phoenix saidHijacking a straight social institution will solve none of your problems, it will only make them worse.


    Bullshit. Your country as well as ours has marriage for gays and nothing happened. In Canada's case, ten years now.


    Yeah, but when Canada legalized gay marriage God sent a plague. I think it was called Bieber Fever, but it didn't last long...
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:26 PM GMT
    WARNING! DISTURBING IMAGES AHEAD (DISTURBING IF YOU'RE A MELANIN DEFICIENT RIGHTWINGER)


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    Oct 17, 2014 9:29 PM GMT
    U.S. Senator Cory Booker (New Jersey)

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    "Big victory today for #equality under the law. Celebrating SCOTUS choice to turn away appeals to block marriage equality in 5 states."
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:43 PM GMT
    U.S. Rep. Bobby Scott (Virginia, 3rd District)

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    “Today’s decision by the Supreme Court will finally allow marriage equality to move forward in Virginia and many other states. With the circuit courts so far ruling unanimously on the issue of marriage equality, there was no conflict for the Supreme Court to resolve. Additionally, having allowed so many challenges to stand, today’s decision makes it a virtual certainty that whenever the Court does choose to weigh in on this issue, it will rule in favor of marriage equality. I now expect that there will be many more successful marriage equality cases, so that the right to marry will be extended to same sex couples living in every corner of our great nation.”
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:50 PM GMT
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    Oct 17, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
    Not specific to the Supremes, but the 500th US Mayor to sign onto the Mayoral petition (two weeks before the Supremes' ruling) in support of the Freedom to Marry was this guy.

    Columbia, SC Mayor Steve Benjamin

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    "As a man of faith, I believe in the enduring power of love. I support the freedom to marry because all families deserve to be treated equally and fairly, because everyone's love deserves respect, and because it is simply the right thing to do."

    http://www.freedomtomarry.org/blog/entry/500th-mayor-signs-on-to-bipartisan-coalition-of-mayors-for-the-freedom-to-m
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    Oct 17, 2014 10:20 PM GMT
    U.S. Rep. John Lewis (Georgia, 5th District), a man who doesn't need any words to express how he feels about equality.

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POTVvIc7ez4

    Project Q AtlantaOct 16, 2014
    U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a staunch supporter of LGBT equality, jogged as he greeted people along the route of the Atlanta Pride parade on Oct. 12.
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    Oct 17, 2014 11:14 PM GMT
    Attorney General Eric Holder's opinion is certainly not representative of the black community, as a whole, which has consistently voted, overwhelmingly, to deny us our civil and human right to marry the one we love.
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    Oct 18, 2014 1:41 AM GMT
    Webster666 saidAttorney General Eric Holder's opinion is certainly not representative of the black community, as a whole, which has consistently voted, overwhelmingly, to deny us our civil and human right to marry the one we love.


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    Just like Pat Robertson's, or Hillary Clinton's, or Bill Clinton's, is certainly not representative of the white community that voted (and legislated) one marriage ban after another into law around the country, not just California. Overwhelmingly, in many cases. With, and without, the help of minority voters. Black voters weren't the swing vote in dozens of states only now being overturned by the week.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_constitutional_amendments_banning_same-sex_unions_by_type

    The upshot here is, how people of a certain race, or religious belief, "votes" no longer matters as it pertains to this specific civil and human right. And black "leaders" (the actual ones, not the stuffed-shirt yahoos in the other thread) are now among many others at the forefront, making sure civil and human rights are not beholden to any one subgroup's "opinions" and "votes".

    We're no longer getting empty "opinions" from our leaders, we're getting policy decisions (like Mr. Holder's announcement today, and his briefs before the Supremes on stuff like DOMA and DADT) that eliminates the inertia toward our constitutional rights. Thank you, Mr. Holder!

    When it comes to human rights, we expect our leaders to be representative of the American community. Not the Christian one, not the gay one, not the black one. The national community protected under one Constitution that strives for a "more perfect union."

    The black community wasn't the main, or the sole, subgroup that got you into this unfair situation. But many of them are the very ones getting you out of it.
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    Oct 18, 2014 11:13 AM GMT
    This announcement from Attorney General Holder is WONDERFUL! Federal recognition of marriage is by far more important than state recognition, and unfortunately the piece we hear least about.
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    Oct 18, 2014 12:57 PM GMT
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    U.S. Rep. Steven Horsford (Nevada, 4th District)

    “Today is a victory for equality for all Nevadans. Same-sex couples will finally be able to marry in the Silver State. This decision, along with the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to decline hearing similar appeals, reaffirms the belief of so many Americans that love is love. The modern civil rights movement for marriage equality is gaining momentum every day. Soon, Americans in all fifty states will be free to marry those they love."

    http://horsford.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/horsford-statement-on-ninth-circuit-courts-decision-to-strike-down

    https://www.facebook.com/RepHorsford/posts/478654062190093


    *looks at palm* That's interesting - he has the M for marriage in his palm. He also has a proclivity for a balance in character in his choice of partner. Smack dab between desiring a person everyone will admire, and a person who is handy and practical and knows what love is and how to reciprocate it. For this man, character is as important as appearance.


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    Oct 18, 2014 1:47 PM GMT
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    meninlove said
    silver_phoenix saidHijacking a straight social institution will solve none of your problems, it will only make them worse.


    Bullshit. Your country as well as ours has marriage for gays and nothing happened. In Canada's case, ten years now.


    Yeah, but when Canada legalized gay marriage God sent a plague. I think it was called Bieber Fever, but it didn't last long...


    Thankfully. He's your problem now. lol
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    Oct 18, 2014 2:46 PM GMT
    HURRAY and my KUDOS to Dayummm for posting this thread! :-)

    Recently I have felt quite disturbed with the comments I have read from some RJ members in other threads about Africans/black populations as a whole and "their" supposed role in spreading homophobia. Remarks such as "backwards", "savages", etc., only perpetuate racist stereotypes, dehumanize, and do nothing to promote the sense of solidarity that is needed to overcome homophobia and oppression in general. I think that Dayumm's response about the decisions of some white/European-American leaders not being held to the same standard was right-on. As a Latino man, I have sometimes felt that similar over-generalizations have been made about Latinos in general and their supposed role in enforcing homophobia. After all, as several RJ members have stated in this and other threads, all populations are diverse in their views and perspectives and the African American/Black and Hispanic/Latino populations are no exception.

    I always wondered what is the purpose of apparently blaming entire populations or communities for some undesirable social situation. It does nothing to promote coalition-building between different communities and cultures and just creates more divide. Something that all of us must understand is that no oppression can only be overcome by members of the affected community. Sexism cannot be overcome by women only; male supporters are an important component; racism cannot be overcome only by people of color; white/European-American support is important too. Homophobia cannot only be overcome by gay people; non-gay/heterosexual persons' support is crucial as well.

    If we LGBT people build a sense of solidarity with peoples from different communities, cultures and nations we are more likely to achieve our own social change goals. In other words, helping other communities deal with their problems (even if not always directly related to LGBT issues) is more likely to help build a sense of solidarity and community that is needed for us to get support back from them when we need it. This notion can even be applied when building relationships with cultures or communities that tend to hold strong views against homosexuality. Of course, this approach may not always yield the outcomes that we want when we want them. However it is much better than just criticizing and negatively judging a population, culture or community that I or we may not be members of or know little or nothing about. Good discussion!
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    Oct 18, 2014 2:46 PM GMT
    whatever it takes to put an end to the gay closet, headless photos, and craigslist where men try to have sex with men with just a sex organ pic; to put a start to allowing a lover to see his lover in a hospital, to have positional right against hateful "in-laws" after the death of a lover--march into hell for a glorious cause