Nice, warm, cities, with good public transportation?

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    Oct 20, 2014 2:38 AM GMT
    Hey everyone. I live in NY and while I know there is no replacing this city, I'm interested in other cool cities where it isn't so damn cold! I was sick and I have weekends off so I just loafed all day and had no idea of the weather, but I always feel like a bad person if I don't go out at all during the day so earlier I walked to starbucks and I just about froze my balls off (it's 46 degrees and windy as hell), the thing is I know there are a lot of big cities in the sunbelt that are warm, but I've spent time in Florida, been to Texas and LA and they are all so car dependent! I have a car (was my aunts, she got a new one and gave it to me so it's nothing special) that I keep parked in a garage and just use it in the summer to drive to the beach in Long Island or Jersey but 95% of the time I use the train and bus. I'm training in a profession that will get me hired anywhere (carpentry) and I'd like to find a warm place with stuff to do (that isn't walking around The mall or eating at Denny's!). I'd like to be able to get a one bed for under $1500 preferably. If it matters I'm also a dual citizen with Poland and I speak Yiddish and Polish and a bit of German and a little bit of Arabic but those places are all just as cold, but I can live anywhere in the EU if I want. Any nice cities that you reccomend? Notice I didn't say gay friendly because I don't go to the clubs and I know from experience that gay people are everywhere and thanks to grindr they're easy to find. And this isn't now since I'm tied here until my apprenticeship is done, but in a few years. I like to plan ahead.

    Was also thinking about getting a TEFL certification and moving abroad to teach English for a year, after done with apprenticeship? Thinking about the Middle East (always been fascinated by that area) and I'm learning Arabic on Rossetta Stone
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    Oct 20, 2014 2:42 AM GMT
    Probably nothing compares to San Francisco for public transportation. But it's not exactly warm, but it's also not as cold as NYC in the winter. Lots of damp fog and sometimes damp wind.
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    Oct 20, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidProbably nothing compares to San Francisco for public transportation. But it's not exactly warm, but it's also not as cold as NYC in the winter. Lots of damp fog and sometimes damp wind.


    Never been to SF, is the Muni that good? Like comparable to the MTA here in NYC? Fog and wind is fine, I'm not looking for FL or AZ heat cause I hate that just as much, I'm just so sick if 10 degree days and 2 feet of snow.
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    Oct 20, 2014 7:00 AM GMT
    The Muni in SF seems very good to me. I don't know how good your MTA is. You could could look at the Muni web site if you're curious about how late or often they run or the fares.

    Also, there are a lot of bicycle riders in SF and lots of bike lanes and it doesn't rain that much so bicycling is another option.
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    Oct 20, 2014 7:09 AM GMT
    PHOENIX

    We have a new train and almost connected to the entire east and west.

    I love it here.

    Many friendly people and a vibrant Southwest culture!

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    Oct 20, 2014 7:49 AM GMT
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    2bnaked saidPHOENIX

    We have a new train and almost connected to the entire east and west.

    I love it here.

    Many friendly people and a vibrant Southwest culture!



    Phoenix-Scottsdale definitely NOT friendly to outsiders in my experience - have lived in both Phoenix and elsewhere. Phoenix is a Republican family friendly city, but they hate single guys, especially if they are gay. I would caution the NYC resident about moving from a liberal state to Phoenix, or anywhere in Arizona. The police in Arizona are unforgiving and you will go to jail for anything, i.e. illegal parking or smoking pot.

    I may someday go to ASU for grad school but that's in Tempe, which is a liberal college town near Phoenix. South Scottsdale near Tempe is slightly liberal and trendy. Tucson is liberal but it's a police state. I'd rather go to grad school in California, Reno, or Colorado compared to Arizona.

    As for public transportation, that's hard to find in the southwest cities. Although I don't know about the southeast.
    The OP might enjoy Santa Barbara or San Luis Obispo, since they are compact cities and it's easier to get around. They are also college towns. Also - Ventura, although it's much larger than the previous two.

    Any other suggestions?



    I am not sure how long you have lived here or how long it has been....but Phoenix, that is downtown phoenix has really changed. I am sure you will find pockets of places that are less than ideal. But, it is far more liberal than it has been in the past!!
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    Oct 20, 2014 1:37 PM GMT
    silver_phoenix saidAuckland NZ. Building boom, desperate for qualified builders and skilled construction workers.

    Mild climate. Shielded from the Global Financial Crisis.

    Other NZers hate Auckland because they are envious, but overseas vistors are mostly positive about it, but cost of living is surprisingly high - if you have a good job it is not a big deal though.

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    New Zealand looks beautiful and kiwis are pretty blessed looks wise, how hard is it to move there?
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    Oct 20, 2014 1:38 PM GMT
    TomSOCAL saidSince the op is training in carpentry, then Arizona is not a good choice, since the local contractors will discriminate based on sexual orientation, since there is no state law prohibiting this. Home builders in Arizona tend to be very conservative. I would suggest the op fly to Los Angeles, rent a car and check out California coastal cities such as San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, san Diego, etc. + inland to palm springs, phoenix, Albuquerque, Santa Fe, durango, etc...

    Of all of these places, New Mexico, durango, and phoenix are growing the fastest with the most construction jobs.
    Durango and Santa Fe are building lots of custom homes.

    Arizona police hate gays based on my experiences with them from 2008 to 2013.




    I doubt I can be discriminated against, you wouldn't know I'm gay until my wang is in your butt
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    Oct 20, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidThe Muni in SF seems very good to me. I don't know how good your MTA is. You could could look at the Muni web site if you're curious about how late or often they run or the fares.

    Also, there are a lot of bicycle riders in SF and lots of bike lanes and it doesn't rain that much so bicycling is another option.


    Looked it up, apparently trains don't run 24 hours but buses do.
    As for cycling to work? My favorite part of public transportation is the extra 45 minutes of rest instead of having to focus on the road, I just put in ear phones and zone out...actually fell asleep omw home on Friday on the train, probably not a good idea and I'm glad I still have my phone and wallet lol!
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    Oct 21, 2014 5:56 AM GMT
    Phoenix? Good public transportation? That's a new one...

    Oakland has better public transport than San Francisco (BART serves much more of it), is warmer, and you can actually find a 1-br in a good neighborhood for $1500, unlike SF.
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    Oct 21, 2014 6:15 AM GMT
    Arizona. The only state to ban MLK day, and make it legal to discriminate against gays. icon_lol.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 21, 2014 9:28 AM GMT
    CFL_Oakland saidPhoenix? Good public transportation? That's a new one...

    Oakland has better public transport than San Francisco (BART serves much more of it), is warmer, and you can actually find a 1-br in a good neighborhood for $1500, unlike SF.


    I've heard Oakland is nice, but for some reason in my mind I see Oakland as Compton North
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    Oct 21, 2014 3:10 PM GMT
    TomSOCAL saidBut you can live in the safer suburbs of Oakland, with access to rapid transit, ie Berkeley, piedmont, orinda, moraga, Lafayette, and walnut creek. You can live in Clayton, in the shadow of mount Diablo, if you like mountain biking, the town is mostly families, however and conservative since it is 20 percent mormon. In contrast, you can live in canyon, California, near orinda, an old hippie town with a lot of history.


    Much of Oakland is very safe. The neighborhoods where there is a lot of crime...well you probably wouldn't have much reason to go there anyway.
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    Oct 21, 2014 6:06 PM GMT

    Check out both San Diego and Honoluluicon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 21, 2014 11:24 PM GMT
    South Florida and a bicycle
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    Oct 23, 2014 9:15 AM GMT
    paulflexes saidSouth Florida and a bicycle


    I lived in Aventura for a short amount of time and have many friends and family that have moved to Broward or Palm Beach counties. And one uncle who married a Dominican chick and moved to South Miami. From that experience i learned that I dislike south florida immensely. Bicycling in the random 10 minute downpours and 100 degree heat and humidity sounds like how I imagine hell to be if it existed. Plus, I want public transportation not having to bicycle. I like to be able to relax and read or talk on the phone omw to work, also I would show up to work sweaty and tired and that's before 8 hours of physical labor! Also, south Florida isn't union friendly at all and since I'm not Hispanic I doubt i would fit in with the other construction workers!!

    Looks like SF or the East Bay (which is home of my favorite Band, rancid)

    Perhaps Honolulu but I would have to do some research before because I am afraid of being so far from the rest of America in the middle of the ocean
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    Oct 23, 2014 9:59 AM GMT
    I agree with other posters, definitely San Francisco. It does get cool there, but not too cold like winters in the northeast. They have Muni and BART if you need to get to other parts of the Bay Area.

    Auckland NZ looks nice!! I'll have to check it out. Also if you want to go international maybe check out some of the southern European countries like Spain and Italy. They have a Mediterranean climate which is similar to California and have mild temperatures year round along with excellent transportation. icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 23, 2014 2:17 PM GMT
    Broward County (Fort Lauderdale), Florida isn't too bad. Not every road has buses, but most of the major arteries do. And they're nice and modern, with WiFi and frequent routes.

    And we do have TriRail, which is sorta like SF's BART. Takes you to Miami airport and other destinations, and Amtrak also has a line here. (Though Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood Airport is preferable if your flight allows it)

    And going beyond daily public transit we have Port Everglades, where the largest cruise ships in the world dock.

    No subways like NYC, though. There's an elevated stretch in Miami (remember the old NYC "EL"?).

    So what are you looking for?
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    Oct 23, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
    TomSOCAL saidYou mentioned weather in your earlier post...check out the climate stats for the bay area. San Francisco and Oakland are, in my opinion...others will disagree...intolerable due to fog. But the east bay places like walnut creek, Palo alto area, etc. Are very nice with warmer temps. Medical care is awful, everywhere, sadly. If the fog is a deal breaker for you, too, there is Bart, bay area rapid transit going in all directions. The fog is less on the east bay from orinda and eastwards. I lived in the east bay 2 yrs ago. Lake Tahoe also has public transportation but wages are low, and not many jobs.


    Fog is fine, it's freezing temps that bother me. And if SF fog bothers you, you'll die in NYC cold.. Aha