British Ray Cole: my time in a Moroccan jail for being gay was 'hell on earth'

  • metta

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    Oct 22, 2014 7:59 PM GMT
    GAY BRITON SPEAKS ABOUT HIS PRISON SENTENCE IN MOROCCO

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2014/oct/16/ray-cole-moroccan-jail-for-being-gay-hell-on-earth-video

    http://www.towleroad.com/2014/10/gay-briton-speaks-about-his-prison-sentence-in-morocco-video.html
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    Oct 22, 2014 10:42 PM GMT
    Are we really supposed to feel sympathetic for a 70 years old guy running after a 22 years old? I hope that Morrocan guy gets asylum in UK, and after arriving in UK dumps this old fart.
    These are the guys who make all older guys look like a pervert running after younger guys.
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    Oct 23, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
    morphic saidAre we really supposed to feel sympathetic for a 70 years old guy running after a 22 years old? I hope that Morrocan guy gets asylum in UK, and after arriving in UK dumps this old fart.
    These are the guys who make all older guys look like a pervert running after younger guys.


    I hope you enjoy decades of love. And then when you turn 70 and you've already buried your partner of 30 years and, being out so young and never having had children, have no younger generation to look after you, you find yourself single among the few percentage of population which is actually gay, among the even fewer who made it to 70, among the even fewer who remain single, among the even fewer who would even look at you to give you the time of day, when you are that, you remember this.
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    Oct 23, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
    People still live in middle ages, muslims are proof of that
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    Oct 24, 2014 12:59 AM GMT
    theantijock said

    I hope you enjoy decades of love. And then when you turn 70 and you've already buried your partner of 30 years and, being out so young and never having had children, have no younger generation to look after you, you find yourself single among the few percentage of population which is actually gay, among the even fewer who made it to 70, among the even fewer who remain single, among the even fewer who would even look at you to give you the time of day, when you are that, you remember this.

    You aren't scaring anyone by this tactic. One thing for sure, I wouldn't be running after a 20 year living in some homophobic Muslim country. Over that, I won't go and visit him there, then later on come back to complain how bad jails are in those countries. If anything, I'll most probably help some 20 years old stuck in a homophobic country to get an asylum in some country with better rights for LGBTs.
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    Oct 24, 2014 3:32 AM GMT
    morphic saidYou aren't scaring anyone by this tactic. One thing for sure, I wouldn't be running after a 20 year living in some homophobic Muslim country. Over that, I won't go and visit him there, then later on come back to complain how bad jails are in those countries. If anything, I'll most probably help some 20 years old stuck in a homophobic country to get an asylum in some country with better rights for LGBTs.


    Scare tactic? lol

    Which bothers you more, that the one guy is older or that the country is Muslim?
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    Oct 24, 2014 8:34 AM GMT
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    morphic saidYou aren't scaring anyone by this tactic. One thing for sure, I wouldn't be running after a 20 year living in some homophobic Muslim country. Over that, I won't go and visit him there, then later on come back to complain how bad jails are in those countries. If anything, I'll most probably help some 20 years old stuck in a homophobic country to get an asylum in some country with better rights for LGBTs.


    Scare tactic? lol

    Which bothers you more, that the one guy is older or that the country is Muslim?

    none, mostly the whining from a 70 years old.
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    Oct 24, 2014 11:13 AM GMT
    morphic said
    theantijock said
    morphic saidYou aren't scaring anyone by this tactic. One thing for sure, I wouldn't be running after a 20 year living in some homophobic Muslim country. Over that, I won't go and visit him there, then later on come back to complain how bad jails are in those countries. If anything, I'll most probably help some 20 years old stuck in a homophobic country to get an asylum in some country with better rights for LGBTs.


    Scare tactic? lol

    Which bothers you more, that the one guy is older or that the country is Muslim?

    none, mostly the whining from a 70 years old.
    I agree 100%. What is with some of these older guys over 65 that want to go after every young guy under 25. What possibly could they have in common with such a large age disparity. In a Muslim country like Morocco, you damned well know that they still have archaic laws on the books governing every facet of a person's life so why take the chance by doing something that is unlawful. This old goat got exactly what he deserved for his stupidity.
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    Oct 24, 2014 4:46 PM GMT
    morphic said
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    morphic saidYou aren't scaring anyone by this tactic. One thing for sure, I wouldn't be running after a 20 year living in some homophobic Muslim country. Over that, I won't go and visit him there, then later on come back to complain how bad jails are in those countries. If anything, I'll most probably help some 20 years old stuck in a homophobic country to get an asylum in some country with better rights for LGBTs.


    Scare tactic? lol

    Which bothers you more, that the one guy is older or that the country is Muslim?

    none, mostly the whining from a 70 years old.


    So not that he went after a 20-year-old, instead of, say, a more mature 30-year old, still 40 years his junior, and not that, as you mentioned, I presume now in passing, the homophobic country was a Muslim one, not one of those Afro-Christian ones, but that he told the press his story is what bothers you most. Thank you for that clarification.
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    Oct 24, 2014 5:17 PM GMT
    I would much prefer to run after young Moroccan men than old! Who would you risk jail for?

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    Old Moroccan men:

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    Oct 24, 2014 6:43 PM GMT
    The dude is a creep. Cut and dry. A 22 year old isn't a minor but the age disparity is disgusting.
    The youngest guy this old man should go for is maybe 45, any younger and it's apparent that it's an unequal relationship - where the old perv wants some booty and the young guy wants a reward, be it a passport, money, status.

    There is no romantic love there. The age difference is larger than me and my grandparents.

    This dude should be in jail regardless.
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    Oct 24, 2014 7:40 PM GMT
    The largest age difference society ought to allow is a 30 year spread and that marriage ought only be licensed if the guy is 60. Not 59 and not 61. It must be 60 and his partner must be 30. It makes perfect sense; therefore, everyone must agree with it.

    This way, when the older Western guy dies precisely at the age of 95, after having benefited from 35 years of the loving care of his younger companion in life, the younger guy will be 65, just in time to collect for the rest of his life the dead guy's Social Security, a benefit gay people have always paid into but have never known before. Only str8 people got that so only they could marry younger to have someone to care for them. Gay people have to age on their own with not even their own children to look after them, never mind a spouse. It's the law. Everything else is disgusting.

    Because we all know how easy it is to find lasting love.

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    Oct 24, 2014 11:59 PM GMT
    jayfromBK93 said...it's an unequal relationship - where the old perv wants some booty and the young guy wants a reward, be it a passport, money, status.

    There is no romantic love there.

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    All relationship are give and take. Who says the love has to be romantic? That may be what you want; however, it isn't necessarily what others may want. Some may like and prefer a business type arrangement. Different strokes for different folks.

    Why is it that if an older man "wants some booty" he's a perv? What is perverse about sexual pleasure no matter what the age difference as long as the participants are of legal age and able to give informed consent. Just because the difference in age isn't to your liking or something you wouldn't do doesn't make it perverse.

    Narrow minded and judgmental much?

    Many people think gay sex is perverted no matter how close or far apart in age the participants are. You are no better than those narrow minded bigots.

    The man I am with now will be 45 when I am 70. I'm so glad you approve of our age disparity. icon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gificon_rolleyes.gif
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    Oct 25, 2014 5:26 AM GMT
    So what about Mick Jagger and his groupies? I've never seen judgments ..... they may exist in print, but I've never seen them.