Living in New York vs Living in Chicago

  • UMCupid

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    Oct 25, 2014 6:22 PM GMT
    Ok guys, I'm debating between living in NY and living in Chicago.

    Who's got an opinion?

    P.S. No hating on a city if you haven't lived there.
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:24 PM GMT
    what a lame thread
  • UMCupid

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    Oct 25, 2014 6:29 PM GMT
    Bonapart saidwhat a lame thread


    Sorry bro, I'm not here to service your interests.
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    UMCupid said
    Bonapart saidwhat a lame thread


    Sorry bro, I'm not here to service your interests.


    still a lame thread
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:33 PM GMT
    No opinions - just a couple of facts. Investigate, and visit both places. Both big cities, but New York is a lot larger (geographically) than Chicago. That means there a lot more acceptable areas to live in, but the distances between them are greater, and travel times longer. NYC is more expensive. Have recently been to NYC, and the subways seem to be well air conditioned today. Been a while since I lived in Chicago, so don't know the current state of subway comfortability there. In both places, summer temperature can hit 100, with almost as high humidity.
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:34 PM GMT
    Both cities are great. and they share lots of the same pros and cons. I'm a little biased to Chicago simply because I grew up there.
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    Oct 25, 2014 6:39 PM GMT
    I love NY but have not yet been to Chicago. Having studied architecture and loving that, I keep telling myself I have to get there but I just haven't yet. My brother was in Chicago recently and reports back to me that it was excellent. He was surprised by how very impressed he was and said he'd consider living there.

    So from what I know of NY and reports I respect on Chicago, I don't think you could go wrong with either decision.
  • Asmodeus

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    Oct 26, 2014 1:03 PM GMT
    Both very cold during winter. icon_cry.gif
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    Oct 26, 2014 1:31 PM GMT
    New York: was fun, now too expensive. All the interesting people who don't have a ton of money are struggling, or have left.
    Chicago: Vibrant, more affordable, but shitty weather.
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    Oct 26, 2014 1:41 PM GMT
    I live in NYC but visited Chicago before.

    NYC- is lively, non stop, there's a mix or love and indifference depending on where you are. Just have to live and see for yourself.


    Chicago- I get the impression that there's a calmer atmosphere there. I haven't experienced someone scoffing down a pizza as they rush to the office. The trains there run on a better schedule than NYC but they're not 24 hours like NYC. The sales tax is higher in chicago especially for clothes. I don't think we pay sales tax for clothes in nyc.


    Overall the eye candy is the same, good and bad lol
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    Oct 26, 2014 2:05 PM GMT
    I have visited both a few times. I like both but I lean more toward NYC. I'd say if you like non-stop hustle bustle life, do with NYC. I think NYC has more entertainment to offer (Broadway, Timesquare, etc). A lot of good ethnic foods too if you're a foodie. NYC is a lot more diverse too.

    If you absolutely love city life to the max, go with NYC. If you also like suburban life, go with Chicago.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 26, 2014 2:13 PM GMT
    Partial to NYC here.
    I've been to Chicago many times for work, but I love New York. More to do, better food, more culture. It's the city that never sleeps.

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 26, 2014 2:22 PM GMT
    polfsky saidI have visited both a few times. I like both but I lean more toward NYC. I'd say if you like non-stop hustle bustle life, do with NYC. I think NYC has more entertainment to offer (Broadway, Timesquare, etc). A lot of good ethnic foods too if you're a foodie. NYC is a lot more diverse too.

    If you absolutely love city life to the max, go with NYC. If you also like suburban life, go with Chicago.
    Chicago is definitely not suburban. It is a great city and it is equal to New York in just about anything big city. It is friendlier and more affordable though not by very much. I have never lived in Chicago but I have visited it a few times and I always was very impressed with the city. The only bad feature was the rush hours and the expressway network. It is also the city where the modern skyscraper was invented, a historical fact that pains many New Yorkers. From what I experienced in my visits to Chicago, that city is also pretty much non-stop hustle and bustle. America's most American city, I would move to Chicago if I were you.
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    Oct 26, 2014 2:24 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidPartial to NYC here.
    I've been to Chicago many times for work, but I love New York. More to do, better food, more culture. It's the city that never sleeps.

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?


    none of your business dumb moray eel
    like the whole world revolves around USA and even if I did live in USA what is the point of comparing 2 mega cities? This thread is stupid

    Legit question?
    I bet with these answers he can find an easy decision where to live now without doing his own research, sure dumb moray eel, get back to your cave
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 26, 2014 2:28 PM GMT
    Bonapart said
    MikemikeMike saidPartial to NYC here.
    I've been to Chicago many times for work, but I love New York. More to do, better food, more culture. It's the city that never sleeps.

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?


    none of your business dumb moray eel
    like the whole world revolves around USA and even if I did live in USA what is the point of comparing 2 mega cities? This thread is stupid

    Legit question?
    I bet with these answers he can find an easy decision where to live now without doing his own research, sure dumb moray eel, get back to your cave
    I thought the OP made it clear that there was to be no hating or negativity on here and along comes the bumbling bonapoop from Iceland calling this a lame thread and bad mouthing guys on here. You are becoming a serious blight on realjock. Are you proud of yourselficon_question.gif
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    Oct 26, 2014 2:30 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Bonapart said
    MikemikeMike saidPartial to NYC here.
    I've been to Chicago many times for work, but I love New York. More to do, better food, more culture. It's the city that never sleeps.

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?


    none of your business dumb moray eel
    like the whole world revolves around USA and even if I did live in USA what is the point of comparing 2 mega cities? This thread is stupid

    Legit question?
    I bet with these answers he can find an easy decision where to live now without doing his own research, sure dumb moray eel, get back to your cave
    I thought the OP made it clear that there was to be no hating or negativity on here and along comes the bumbling bonapoop from Iceland calling this a lame thread and bad mouthing guys on here. You are becoming a serious blight on realjock. Are you proud of yourselficon_question.gif


    aawww just don't start to cry toadrob
    don't poop your panties manure bear
    And where am I hating on a city? Sad manure bear
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    Oct 26, 2014 2:35 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob saidChicago is definitely not suburban. It is a great city and it is equal to New York in just about anything big city. It is friendlier and more affordable though not by very much. I have never lived in Chicago but I have visited it a few times and I always was very impressed with the city. The only bad feature was the rush hours and the expressway network. It is also the city where the modern skyscraper was invented, a historical fact that pains many New Yorkers. From what I experienced in my visits to Chicago, that city is also pretty much non-stop hustle and bustle. America's most American city, I would move to Chicago if I were you.


    I didn't mean to say that Chicago is suburban. I just think that Downtown Chicago is smaller than the Downtown of NYC (the whole Manhattan island). So when you get out of downtown Chicago, it's a bit calmer and more relaxing whereas in Manhattan, you'll have to get further out.

    I find Downtown Chicago more beautiful. And yes, Chicago people are friendlier and tourist-friendly. They don't say "rude New Yorkers" for no reason.
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    Oct 26, 2014 4:48 PM GMT
    I grew up in "Chicagoland" and have spent a lot of time in NY, so I feel qualified to offer some advice. First, are you OK w/ the cities' demographic and political makeups? Both are highly diverse, Democratic strong - some would say strangle - holds, so take that into account, along with the high taxes you'll be paying in both. On that score, they're equal so you decide if you're OK supporting that kind of government and living in a system that favors those whom it does.

    Housing's a little cheaper in Chicago, and the value received much better than in many of the tiny, roach-infested warrens found in NY; yes, even in "luxury" apartments, flats, and condos. Both cities have their attractive and unattractive 'hoods, you'll need to look carefully and thoroughly to find something decent. Public transport in each is good, and you can easily live there w/o the expense of owning a car, which is what I did in SF for 25 years.

    In terms of arts and culture, if not sports as well, NY has the advantage; though those Yankees, Mets, and Giants tix can be as ridiculously expensive as those for the Cubs, Sox, and Bears, among others. But NY has tons more traditional art, music, theatre - pace, Second City supporters - and film options, and thus wins that race hands down. Its easy proximity to other East Coast cultural centers, from DC to Boston, is also an advantage, if not its proximity to Europe as well.

    In terms of people, Chicagoans can be a bit friendlier than NYers at first glance, but I've found that the latter warm up to you when you engage them on their own, sometimes confrontational terms. But, you'll make friends in either place, so that's a really personal thing. Gay life is each is strong and varied, though NY wins that one by dint of sheer numbers.

    For me, I decided long ago that I could live in neither place, though I still have loads of family in Chicagoland whom I visit regularly, and I travel to NY often. But, if I had to choose, I'd take Chicago, as it's more of an "American" city and is better connected to the heartland of the country to which it belongs. That's nothing against NY, but its cosmopolitan character can be a bit alienating at times, particularly when you're just looking for a nice front porch to sit upon and watch the world go by.
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    Oct 26, 2014 4:52 PM GMT
    What I've heard my entire life from people who've either lived in or visited both cities:

    People act nicer in Chicago but it's bitterly colder...MUCH colder than NYC which is more temperate. If you're a Miami native like me, I don't think you could handle the cold any more than I could handle living in Buffalo given the lake effect snowfall THERE.

    New York's more expensive - that's a given.

    Blondes are a dime a dozen in Chicago. As in Miami, your stock will be much higher in New York.

    My take? Ad agency-wise, presumably you'd be a bigger fish in Chicago because New York's still top-ranked and more competitive in that industry. I believe RJ member antijock works for a Chicago ad agency.
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    Oct 26, 2014 5:56 PM GMT
    Native Chicagoan here. Now a New Yorker, I'm partial to NYC since it's where I've always wanted to live and 1/2 my family lives here but why NYC? Is there a specific ambition or industry drawing you here such finance, Broadway, etc..? Just wondering since a lot of people who wind up in NYC (even for college sometimes) end up struggling and moving back home if they don't have a specific reason for moving here other than it being NYC.

    NYC and Chicago are somewhat similar but very different on many levels. Most obviously the rent is cheaper in Chicago and NYC is much bigger. I like to think of Chicago as New York with training wheels and commuting from home on the "L" to the Downtown campus of my university prepared me for moving to NYC.

    Chicago is alright and despite being the 2nd largest city feels somewhat like a smaller city. The culture is largely focused around sports in Chicago so if you're a baseball or football fan you'll do well there. It seem 1/2 the guys in the city were at Wrigley Field everyday during baseball season. NYC's culture revolves around all sorts of things and is really varied. But it does lean toward being expensive sometimes, even seeing a Yankees game is a good chunk of change. There are ironically more free things to do in the city during the summer though.

    The gay scene in Chicago though leaves a bit to be desired unlike NYC's gay scene which is a lot more than Chelsea and Hell's Kitchen. In Chicago Boystown (which is like a mini Chelsea) is where all the gay bars are but even though it's the nation's first official gay neighborhood I wasn't really a fan of hanging out there, it's alright if you're looking for fun I guess though. This is just my personal opinion but I felt that there were a lot of closeted guys in Chicago since the city/ metro area is somewhat rooted in traditional Midwestern values and now that I live in NYC I feel there's a bit more closed mindedness in Chicago about people who are "different" It's more passive aggressive rather than blatant, again just my opinion.

    NYC is more open minded about gay guys, no on really cares if you're gay or straight except elderly NYer's who pronounce Italian as "eyetalian". In NYC gay guys are kind of scattered all over the 5 boroughs and the scene is even segmented by types of guys which there are so many different types of gay guys in New York it can sometimes be hard to find your niche, it can be a bit overwhelming for someone unfamiliar with it. Plus there's a ton of "non scene" guys who don't really go to gay bars often or find BF's through their friends, Meetups, etc. In terms of looks the guys in NYC vs Chicago there's more good looking guys here but than again it's an international hub for models and actors.

    Something to be noted about NYC though is a lot of young guys here are somewhat transient since NYC is so expensive or people move here only to find out they can't afford it or it's not the type of lifestyle they're seeking. It happens but it can make dating a bit frustrating since there's so many 20 something's coming and going from all over the world. Chicago seems to retain people a bit better I've found, well those who can handle the winters at least- Chicago can get really cold and snowy during the wintertime. They don't call it the Windy City for nothing and being from Miami that might be something to think about. NY can get really cold and snowy too but usually later in the winter so it lasts for a shorter time.

    Chicago though has a slower pace of life than NYC since the high cost of living drives many NYer's to work long hours or even over the weekends. People working over the weekends at an office in Chicago might be considered workaholics except in some financial firms. Unfortunately, due to the high cost of living there are lot of stressed out people here, at all income levels and the growing influence of billionaires in Manhattan isn't helping to lower it. If you compare rents in the 2 cities it might be a bit eye popping to see what you can get in each at the same prices. Some people say you need to earn around 6 figures to live a decent lifestyle in NYC. In Chicago it's about 1/2 of that so that's something to consider as well.

    I've gotten lucky with finding inexpensive nice places in NYC so far *knock on wood* NYC is a bit more competitive of course and with job hunting in a lot of well paying industries it's a bit cut throat (even after you've gotten the job)

    Anyway there's good and bad things about both cities. There are also other cities which are a good mix of the 2, Philly, Boston, DC, and Minneapolis for example if you want to keep your options open.

    I'd recommend, if possible and if you have some money saved up, doing a test run for both cities for a few weeks. Rent a room on AirBnB or something in NYC (a lot of 20-30 something's still have roomettes since the rent is so expensive in desirable neighborhoods) The UES, UWS, Astoria in Queens, Greenwich Village, Chelsea and Hoboken NJ are all popular areas. Apply to jobs, ride the subway, explore various areas around the city network and make connections. Keep in mind NYC is also well integrated with the tri-state area in terms of transit and you don't necessarily need to live within the city limits. Stamford, CT, Jersey City and even nearby Long Island offer "smaller" city living with their own economies and culture.

    Same for Chicago, Lakeview, Ravenswood, Lincoln Park, Roscoe Village, Hyde Park and Lincoln Square are go to areas for new residents. That's a great way to see for yourself, especially with the cold weather setting in, if you can see yourself living in either place.
  • 5100s

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    Oct 26, 2014 6:05 PM GMT
    I think the rents are significantly lower in Chicago.

    I live in the Hyde Park neighborhood on the South Side of Chicago. You can still get a small, tolerable studio apartment in a safe building here for starting around $675 a month, and you can be in the heart of downtown in less than 15 minutes. So if you don't have a lot of money it's easier to keep a roof over your head here. If you're rich, that gives you a lot more flexibility to choose.

    And both cities are really two cities in one: for New York, Manhattan and the other four boroughs and for Chicago the lakefront and the world that starts about a mile away from it. Over the last several decades fashion washed over some of the outer areas as Manhattan and the lakefront have become more and more expensive. But the divide is still here.
  • Suetonius

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    Oct 26, 2014 6:37 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike said

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?

    Don't all trolls live under bridges?
  • roadbikeRob

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    Oct 26, 2014 6:47 PM GMT
    Suetonius said
    MikemikeMike said

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?

    Don't all trolls live under bridges?
    FYI, Bonerpoop lives in Iceland. So what the fuck does he know about either Chicago or New Yorkicon_question.gif
  • Suetonius

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    Oct 26, 2014 6:49 PM GMT
    Erobert has some really good answers.

    As mentioned, NYC has lots of theater and other arts, but at your age and probable income, I doubt you will be going much unless you are onstage - it is pretty much priced for the rich. Chicago has (at least used to have - it's been a few years) a lot of small theatre (sort of off-off-off Broadway) that is affordable.

    Additionally , if you choose to live in Chicago, invest in some very high quality down-type winter outer garments - and include a headband and mittens like you would use for skiing - can get to be 20 degrees below zero with a strong wind in winter - not frequently, but often enough to make those garments coveted. In NYC, they keep the subway stations at about 90 degrees all the time, so you only have to worry about the cold while dashing from the subway to wherever. And of course, as you become successful, you will be taking taxis.
  • Suetonius

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    Oct 26, 2014 6:52 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Suetonius said
    MikemikeMike said

    Not a lame thread, legit question.. Where do you live bonerpart?

    Don't all trolls live under bridges?
    FYI, Bonerpoop lives in Icelandicon_question.gif

    That's what it says on his empty profile. And that's a believable claim because . . .?

    They do historically have trolls in Iceland - but these days, they are everywhere.