Don't disagree with riddler78 UPDATED

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    Oct 27, 2014 1:30 PM GMT
    My face pic was in my profile til last night.

    I had a civilized disagreement with riddler78 in a thread on Bolivia. No Name Calling, we simply saw things differently.

    Then I get a photo comment from him.

    His comment was my full name and a link to a professional profile.

    CLEAR MESSAGE. "If you disagree with me I will stalk you."


    I have since received a kind note from riddler78 and I no longer have any issue with him.

    It is easy to misjudge intent here. I made the same mistake that he made.


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    Oct 27, 2014 1:31 PM GMT
    GloriousCockster saidMy face pic was in my profile til last night.

    I had a civilized disagreement with riddler78 in a thread on Bolivia. No Name Calling, we simply saw things differently.

    Then I get a photo comment from him.

    His comment was my full name and a link to a professional profile.

    CLEAR MESSAGE. "If you disagree with me I will stalk you."


    Would you like to know his?
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    Oct 27, 2014 1:38 PM GMT
    I don't care what his name is but I've already learned enough about his character.

    I know how he responds when he can't debate his points fairly.

    Here's the thread: http://www.realjock.com/gayforums/3937828

    You can see that our level of disagreement was pretty mild.
  • frogman89

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    Oct 27, 2014 1:49 PM GMT
    That's... fucked up.
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    Oct 27, 2014 1:56 PM GMT
    Too many crazies in this place.
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    Oct 27, 2014 2:08 PM GMT
    I'm not in the closet so I don't care if any of my friends, family or work associates know that I post on a gay site.

    I do care that a crazy stranger wants to let me know that he can find me.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2014 2:18 PM GMT
    Riddler is incapable of intelligent discourse. His posts are vague, in an attempt to gloss over the fact that it's all nonsense right wing propaganda.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 27, 2014 2:22 PM GMT
    frogman89 saidThat's... fucked up.



    This!
    It has happened to me before and it wasn't pretty. Security from my job called NY's finest nd he was escorted away.
    This was from a man I never had anything to do with, just a crazy stalker.

    Sorry this happened to you. Take steps go through proper channels and make it stop.

    All else fails be nice invite him some where and knock his teeth in!
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    Oct 27, 2014 2:43 PM GMT
    What the fuck? I knew that dude was an idiot but I didn't know he was a stalker too. He should get banned for that.
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    Oct 27, 2014 2:46 PM GMT
    I once had a Pulitzer Prize winning friend say to me that I go through life with my head in a rainbow colored cloud. In other words, his colorful description was that I can't help but to see the rain, though in each drop I see a prism of light. I always felt his observation as accurate and thorough as his reporting.

    Either I had no idea there were so many scumbags in the world as I find online, or stripped of inhibition they become more obvious here or by ease of access and relative safety and cover of anonymity, that they gather here in greater proportion than a good person would normally run into them in realtime?

    It wasn't always like this. Back in the Days of Modem, I don't recall bulletin boards being this bad and even the early days of AOL chatrooms were nothing like this. You could have 25 people in a "room" and you didn't have any of the hostility that three people here in a forum vomit upon everyone.

    I've concluded that they must be stupid and poor. (I do not mean that as a slight to stupid or poor people who have my compassion and respect.) So it would make sense that in the bulletin board days, they couldn't figure out DOS prompts. So they couldn't access us there. And then in the early AOL days, in the post-DOS prompt era, there weren't so many used computers and no cheaper hand held devices to purchase. So we didn't run into the creepy people often.

    But now, you don't have to know anything or have much resource to get online. I'm not much into apps, but I'd imagine that now you don't even need to know how to type. So any idiot can access this.

    It seems fairly natural that someone who wouldn't be able to consistently fool people in realtime, that friends they try to make will eventually figure them out, etc, that they find a social substitution online. And what compassionate person would deny them that? A catch-22 they take full advantage of.

    And it is not just this forum, as much as many complain, but almost everywhere online now. It used to be that we only dealt with dysfunction within our own families wherein personality disorders are born. But the internet puts them in everyone's face, the ones shifty enough and high functioning enough to make their way into corporate boardrooms, and the even lower-lifes who scurry here.

    Just click ignore and be done with it.
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    Oct 27, 2014 3:14 PM GMT
    I didn't find riddler78 to be either classless or unintelligent.

    It only bothered me that he would stalk me enough to get my name and occupation. And all because I disagreed with him.

  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2014 3:19 PM GMT
    GloriousCockster saidI didn't find riddler78 to be either classless or unintelligent.

    It only bothered me that he would stalk me enough to get my name and occupation. And all because I disagreed with him.


    All he does is regurgitate right winger articles. It takes more than that to prove intelligence on a site in which many posters take the time to originate ideas and pen fresh thoughts.
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    Oct 27, 2014 3:21 PM GMT
    The comment was made about the "old days" of online chat media. I recall it being somewhat rough & tumble, even back in the 1980s with the proprietary dial-up services. The local BBS I used didn't have much moderation. Guys would attack each other fairly often & harshly.

    Users of one Seattle straight BBS attacked this gay guy really badly in the chat rooms. I was so impressed by his intelligent and calm replies that I began to email him privately. Which directly led to my own coming out some 6 months later. And he became my gay mentor, so that had a happy ending for me, at least on that occasion.

    Then I joined an enitrely gay BBS. Where these straight trolls would nevertheless join simply to trash the chat rooms with anti-gay hatred, much of it Christian based. The BBS owner was pretty good at cleaning them out, but they'd pop up again like Whacka Mole. I also joined AOL, and mostly used gay chat rooms. Where we also had straight intruders and disruptors.

    AOL was still strictly a paid proprietary service, and hadn't gone Internet yet. They had many room moderators, who did keep some of the troublemakers out. But then AOL started downsizing and the moderators began disappearing, and it could get Wild West in those chat rooms. One of the reasons I dropped it.
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    Oct 27, 2014 3:41 PM GMT
    GloriousCockster saidI didn't find riddler78 to be either classless or unintelligent.

    It only bothered me that he would stalk me enough to get my name and occupation. And all because I disagreed with him.


    The severely personality disordered can have very high IQ (thus, the criminal genius) and they can be quite charming. Particularly, they can be deceptive and manipulative. The higher functioning ones can become corporate presidents. So don't let that fool you. I've an adopted nephew with severe personality disorder though he's quite smart, still, often an idiot. It showed up early, in school he was A's and F's. So we know he can do the work, it's just getting his brain to work which is the challenge. My brother and sister-in-law have taken that on admirably, even as professionals told them to give up. I've also a cousin who inflicted her personality disordered-derived abuses upon me. So life has trained me well in this crap.

    While it's possible that everyone has some, even a slight degree, of disorder, while some maybe can be fixed and psychology seems to claim so, probably more often is the case that they can mimic reality and they might even live that in actuality for periods at a time. But even the best of them will likely have triggers that will set them off, particularly the ones who do not keep themselves constantly in check with professional psychological help. My nephew is one of those who refuse help, compounding the difficulty of dealing with it.

    The lesson being: oh, but he's ever so charming and intelligent. That doesn't mean shit. You have to evaluate words plus actions over time. And then you will know.
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    Oct 27, 2014 7:23 PM GMT
    GloriousCockster saidMy face pic was in my profile til last night.

    I had a civilized disagreement with riddler78 in a thread on Bolivia. No Name Calling, we simply saw things differently.

    Then I get a photo comment from him.

    His comment was my full name and a link to a professional profile.

    CLEAR MESSAGE. "If you disagree with me I will stalk you."



    Actually, no - it was you using a fake pic of a model that was readily available on the internet. The person whose pic I found you were using was clearly not you.
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    Oct 27, 2014 7:27 PM GMT
    frogman89 saidThat's... fucked up.


    What is truly fucked up is the laughable attempt by someone who was formerly known as TropicalMark to pretend as if he was someone he wasn't.

    I sent him the link to the image rather than reporting it in hopes he'd do the right thing and either take down the pic or replace it with a real one.
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    Oct 27, 2014 7:50 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    frogman89 saidThat's... fucked up.


    What is truly fucked up is the laughable attempt by someone who was formerly known as TropicalMark to pretend as if he was someone he wasn't.

    I sent him the link to the image rather than reporting it in hopes he'd do the right thing and either take down the pic or replace it with a real one.

    Someone ought to post a running chart of which sock is which old RJ member. That would be a real service.

    Had no idea that gloriouscocksucker was tropicalmark.

    (Along the same line is waimea (not sure of spelling) back as someone else?
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    Oct 27, 2014 9:07 PM GMT
    riddler78 said
    GloriousCockster saidMy face pic was in my profile til last night.

    I had a civilized disagreement with riddler78 in a thread on Bolivia. No Name Calling, we simply saw things differently.

    Then I get a photo comment from him.

    His comment was my full name and a link to a professional profile.

    CLEAR MESSAGE. "If you disagree with me I will stalk you."



    Actually, no - it was you using a fake pic of a model that was readily available on the internet. The person whose pic I found you were using was clearly not you.


    The pic is mine as I can tell you realize from the private mail you sent. I am not a model as you also realize after your visit to my profile on the site you linked.


  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 27, 2014 9:21 PM GMT
    Those of us who have been on RJ for years have had disagreements with many. I certainly don't agree with Riddler78 on some issues, but I certainly respect his position, intellect and ideas....

    I've found it you treat others reasonably here, even in disagreement, you will find the same.
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    Oct 27, 2014 9:33 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    riddler78 said
    frogman89 saidThat's... fucked up.


    What is truly fucked up is the laughable attempt by someone who was formerly known as TropicalMark to pretend as if he was someone he wasn't.

    I sent him the link to the image rather than reporting it in hopes he'd do the right thing and either take down the pic or replace it with a real one.


    you must love tropicalmark since you can't stop saying his name. you guys need to stop accusing anyone on here that you don't like to be a troll or a sock puppet.


    When did I last say his name? Are you always so delusional?
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 27, 2014 9:38 PM GMT
    Riddler thinks everyone around him is delusional, in the same way a schizophrenic thinks it's everyone else that's nuts.
  • rnch

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    Oct 27, 2014 9:44 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidRiddler is incapable of intelligent discourse. His posts are vague, in an attempt to gloss over the fact that it's all nonsense right wing propaganda.



    Agree.
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    Oct 27, 2014 9:48 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    riddler78 said
    pazzy said
    riddler78 said
    frogman89 saidThat's... fucked up.


    What is truly fucked up is the laughable attempt by someone who was formerly known as TropicalMark to pretend as if he was someone he wasn't.

    I sent him the link to the image rather than reporting it in hopes he'd do the right thing and either take down the pic or replace it with a real one.


    you must love tropicalmark since you can't stop saying his name. you guys need to stop accusing anyone on here that you don't like to be a troll or a sock puppet.


    When did I last say his name? Are you always so delusional?


    delusional like how you're accusing random posters of being sock puppets of tropicalmark? you said his name so he's obviously on your mind. there's many people in here that are MIA and yet you remember him. icon_lol.gif he must have left a hell of an impression on you.


    "you must love tropicalmark since you can't stop saying his name" ... thank you for again showing how delusional you truly are. Maybe one day you'll actually have a job that adds value to society. icon_wink.gif

    Oh and I do remember him because he's been with us many a time since he was kicked off under a number of aliases with his seething hate and racism mixed in with a great deal of inner turmoil and depression.
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    Oct 27, 2014 9:57 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidRiddler thinks everyone around him is delusional, in the same way a schizophrenic thinks it's everyone else that's nuts.

    Ain't that the truth.
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    Oct 27, 2014 10:00 PM GMT
    I don't understand the riddler. He used to live in Hon Kong but he's in Canada?