Anyone see the movie Dear whie people? What did you think?

  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 27, 2014 2:26 PM GMT
    Friends saw it. I might they said it could have been much better, but said it was enjoyable.
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    Oct 27, 2014 4:36 PM GMT
    no. just read the imdb board. crazier racial threads compared to what you see here.icon_eek.gif
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    Oct 27, 2014 4:48 PM GMT
    Seems like a very dumb movie. As always, African Americans assuming that they are the only minorities that go through racism and stereotyping. Good old ethnocentrism.
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
    #StuffWhitePeopleLike
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:40 AM GMT
    some black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?

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    Oct 28, 2014 10:39 AM GMT
    Bonapart saidsome black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?



    Wow. I can understand (doesn't mean I agree) why you say what you said, but you are only viewing on the surface. If you get all your information from radio or television you will have a very narrow view of things.
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    Oct 28, 2014 1:43 PM GMT
    Bonapart saidsome black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?



    Apparently to cure attitude like yours.
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    Oct 28, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
    kxd7 saidSeems like a very dumb movie. As always, African American assuming that they are the only minorities that go threw racism and stereotyping. Good old ethnocentrism.


    seems like you've already made up your mind without even watching the film... good old ignorance
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    Oct 28, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
    The_Perfect_Ashlar said
    Bonapart saidsome black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?



    Wow. I can understand (doesn't mean I agree) why you say what you said, but you are only viewing on the surface. If you get all your information from radio or television you will have a very narrow view of things.


    blaming the media is the saddest excuse
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 28, 2014 9:56 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Bonapart saidsome black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?



    icon_rolleyes.gif blame black people for being conscious about something that SOCIETY forces them to conscious about, brehs.

    according to your logic, gay people shouldn't be conscious about being gay even though they live in a SOCIETY that constantly makes a fuss about it.


    qft.

    Many of the guys on RJ are in the closet, because they're scared of society judging them, or their friends ditching them if they are honest about being gay. They act like they're victims, yet they bully anyone else who faces adversity.

    I think a lifetime of cowardly behavior has trained them to think that it's more important to pass than to be authentic.
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    Oct 28, 2014 10:22 PM GMT
    pazzy said
    Bonapart saidsome black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?



    icon_rolleyes.gif blame black people for being conscious about something that SOCIETY forces them to conscious about, brehs.

    according to your logic, gay people shouldn't be conscious about being gay even though they live in a SOCIETY that constantly makes a fuss about it.



    yeah I wake up and i am being conscious that I am white that is first thing that comes into my mind
    GET A LIFE
    and some blacks blame media, now society, in reality they just make some racist bs, yes, exactly, racist
    like this movie
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    Oct 28, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
    For anyone writing this movie off as just "black people whining about racism" read a review of the film. Critics have been saying that each of the character's points of view are flawed in some way. It's a film about how the discussion of race has changed in the "Obama era".

    I for one am excited to see it. I'm not a fan of the "check your privilege" movement, but I see it's intention. There is certainly an imbalance, and we need to work towards lessening it (if we can't get rid of it completely). But I feel that people apply the concept to be combative rather than to actually further the discussion and come to a conclusion. I'm not a fan of the idea that because you are outside of a minority group, you aren't allowed to speak.

    But if this film is taking a critical look at all sides of the argument, then I've got high hopes. I just hope it can actually hit the nail on the head.
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    Oct 29, 2014 2:01 AM GMT
    Saw it at the Sundance here in Houston last night. Very well written and did make me think. Could have been cast a little better though. It does make you think about how different cultures (and yes they truly are cultures) put so much effort into emulating each others'. The message to me? Appreciate the others' but own your own. The film reinforces the reality that racism is far from over without being preachy in its delivery. And it does so with a mostly very humorous script. I would recommend it.
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 29, 2014 2:07 AM GMT
    ^I've never heard the term "check your privilege."

    It's interesting how if you're white you can decide whether or not to acknowledge white privilege. White people can choose to ignore racism, and from what I've seen that's usually what most do. But I would imagine that if you're a black male and experiencing racial profiling then you can't just choose to ignore it. How can you ignore a force that's pushing against you? I suppose the ultimate privilege of white privilege is that white people get to ignore it and just go with the flow...

    I support gay activists because without them we'd be invisible. I also support black activists in Ferguson and elsewhere around the country.
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    Oct 29, 2014 2:38 AM GMT
    lol The irony is that the movie not only specifies on blacks and not minorities in general but also the blacks that appear in the movie are light skinned. Wow, what an inspiration.
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    Oct 29, 2014 4:52 AM GMT
    one of the lead actors lived in the suite next to mine 3 of my 4 years in college!
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    Oct 29, 2014 2:10 PM GMT
    Sure I will watch it but as a white person who is 43.If white privlege is real...why would I want to get rid of it lol.I have my own problems.We have a black man as President for 6 years.Let him deal with it.He should be helping black folks from his lofty post.I have no intention of apologizing for my race about things that happened years ago.White people are suffering in this economy like everyone else.
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    Oct 29, 2014 2:23 PM GMT
    WickedRyan saidSure I will watch it but as a white person who is 43.If white privlege is real...why would I want to get rid of it lol.I have my own problems.We have a black man as President for 6 years.Let him deal with it.He should be helping black folks from his lofty post.I have no intention of apologizing for my race about things that happened years ago.White people are suffering in this economy like everyone else.

    How about things that happened this past summer?

    I find it telling that one of the most fervent Christians on RJ is okay with racism persisting, because it benefits him. WWJD, indeed?
  • BlackRussian1...

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    Oct 29, 2014 9:05 PM GMT
    For what it's worth to any of you, the director of this film is a black gay man. Just putting that out there for those who like to watch/support gay cinema/directors.
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    Oct 30, 2014 2:37 AM GMT
    Outright racism is wrong and appalling.However the effort of the PC Gestapo to change all our minds about race based on some Harvard/NYU viewpoints to me is offensive.I am willing to discuss racial issues and I am well aware of black and white racism.As a nation we have made major progress toward ending racial hatred but in 2014 we have many more serious issues facing us.
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    Oct 30, 2014 3:43 AM GMT
    I heard the the director of film talking about why he decided to make this film. We live a culture where Whites makes roughly around 62%(non-hispanic whites) of the population yet Blacks, latinos, asians are HEAVILY underrepresented in the media. Why are most commerical mainly white people only? Why is television mainly white people(GIRLS, for example which takes place in BROOKLYN and the whole damn cast is WHITE), the same goes to most recent Hollywood films as well. The fact is HALF of all babies born today are minorities so whether white people want to accept it or not, our nation in a couple decades will look significantly different, demographic wise. So why is the media still giving an unhonest depiction of the United States. It's fucked up when you see it through a person eyes that identify as nonwhite. I'm so glad this film is released so people will talk about this subject more. I can go on and on about this subject such as it's easier for a light skinned latino(who can pass as white) to find a job if he drops his chunti(if you dont know what that means look it up on urban dictionary) first and last name to something more "American" and hes more likely to find a job. I know I might gonna get a lot of heat for this but fuck it, this is coming from a guy whose dad looks like a stereotypical mexican looking latino and mom that is an anglo looking latina so i've experienced how people treated my parents solely because of there skin color so I have insight on this issue.

    If you think this film is stupid, um there is a reason it's received critical acclaim(91% positive by RT) by many critics. Perhaps youre just the stupid one.
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    Oct 30, 2014 4:27 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    pazzy said
    Bonapart saidsome black people as always bring race into everything, whining about being stereotyped or something then I turn on the radio and hear another song with black rapper where he just cannot get pass the song without saying the word nigger because it's hip and cool
    talking about being racist

    If you haven't noticed race is always an issue for some black people always

    So what is the purpose of this movie ?



    icon_rolleyes.gif blame black people for being conscious about something that SOCIETY forces them to conscious about, brehs.

    according to your logic, gay people shouldn't be conscious about being gay even though they live in a SOCIETY that constantly makes a fuss about it.


    qft.

    Many of the guys on RJ are in the closet, because they're scared of society judging them, or their friends ditching them if they are honest about being gay. They act like they're victims, yet they bully anyone else who faces adversity.

    I think a lifetime of cowardly behavior has trained them to think that it's more important to pass than to be authentic.


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    Oct 30, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    WickedRyan saidSure I will watch it but as a white person who is 43.If white privlege is real...why would I want to get rid of it lol.I have my own problems.We have a black man as President for 6 years.Let him deal with it.He should be helping black folks from his lofty post.I have no intention of apologizing for my race about things that happened years ago.White people are suffering in this economy like everyone else.


    You still don't get it.

    It's not about years ago. It's about today. I grew up in a very wealthy neighborhood where my parents paid thens of thousands a year in taxes to pay the salaries of police officers who routinely harassed and interrogated me if I was on my own street after dark.

    I've never had the opportunity to go to school in an environment where I didn't feel singled out for being black. From pre-school to grad school, I've found myself over and over again being the only or almost the only black kid.

    My first year of college several of my floor mates thought it was funny to imply that I earned my spot in our class via affirmative action until they found out that I had a higher GPA and SAT scores that they did, had 370 hours of community service and was president of a shit ton of clubs and activities outside of school.

    I spent most of my young life believing that once I came out, it would be easy to mingle with other gay men only to realize that being black and interacting with gay people is even more demoralizing than being int he closet. At least in the closet I lived under the illusion that I would be treated like a white guy once I worked up the courage to date.

    To be quite honest, I've grown up with extraordinary privilege and opportunity that exceeds the grasp of most people (black or white) And life has shown me that the escape velocity of the social gravity of the being black has proven itself beyond even my capability.

    I haven't seen this film, but it sounds like it's about being black at an Ivy League College. Since this is something I can kind of identify with I think if done right it's a very important topic. I know plenty of black kids who were raised with economic privilege which often places them in exhausting and isolating situations. These situations are real. And they occur.....a lot.

    What you and Bonapart have to get over is the idea that this is about YOU. It's not. I think white people are so used to being the center of art and media that they place themselves at the center of things they don't even belong in the center of. This film is not about white people, or their experiences, it's about a very small segment of the black population that rarely gets the opportunity to speak honestly about race because it's incredibly isolated. If that's what the film does, great. But you and I can't really make sweeping judgements about it until we see it.
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    Oct 30, 2014 5:01 AM GMT
    socal56 saidWe live a culture where Whites makes roughly around 62%(non-hispanic whites) of the population yet Blacks, latinos, asians are HEAVILY underrepresented in the media. Why are most commerical mainly white people only?

    I could make the same complaint about the under representation of old people in the media. The following pie chart was taken from the US Census figures available at the url below, table 1. (I uploaded it to google docs and had it make the pie chart.)

    If we add the percentages for the 45 to 64 years old and 65 years and over we get 39.9%; slightly more than the green wedge. Should half of the actors and actresses on tv and in movies be old people? Of course not. It's not the media's job to accurately reflect society's demographics. They are businesses and their job is to be profitable. So they use the people that the public wants to see. If they use "unpopular" groups then the public will switch channels, not watch their movie, etc. and they'll lose money. It's business.

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    http://www.census.gov/population/age/data/2012comp.html
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    Oct 30, 2014 5:09 AM GMT
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    socal56 saidWe live a culture where Whites makes roughly around 62%(non-hispanic whites) of the population yet Blacks, latinos, asians are HEAVILY underrepresented in the media. Why are most commerical mainly white people only?

    I could make the same complaint about the under representation of old people in the media. The following pie chart was taken from the US Census figures available at the url below, table 1. (I uploaded it to google docs and had it make the pie chart.)

    If we add the percentages for the 45 to 64 years old and 65 years and over we get 39.9%; slightly more than the green wedge. Should half of the actors and actresses on tv and in movies be old people? Of course not. It's not the media's job to accurately reflect society's demographics. They are businesses and their job is to be profitable. So they use the people that the public wants to see. If they use "unpopular" groups then the public will switch channels, not watch their movie, etc. and they'll lose money. It's business.

    tumblr_ne8qujecgT1u21poao1_1280.png

    http://www.census.gov/population/age/data/2012comp.html


    The problem is that there is no data to support the idea that filling something with white people makes people want to see it more or makes it more profitable.

    I mean, that myth was perpetuated for a long time in film and television and then the executives go their feelings hurt when Tyler Perry and Shonda Rhimes showed up and started making shit tons of money off of casts dripping with minorities.

    Contrary to popular belief, reflecting real life is actually pretty profitable if the writing is good.