New York Times: Do Black People Have Equal Gun Rights?

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    Oct 27, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/opinion/sunday/do-black-people-have-equal-gun-rights.html?_r=0

    "CONVENTIONAL wisdom holds that firearms are the preserve of conservative white men. You would never know this at my local shooting range, which happens to be in a majority African-American area, and has a clientele that reflects that fact. There, as a white man, I’m often in the minority; just one more guy who likes to fire weapons — another person to chat to and share stories with. It is, I’d venture, how things should be."

    The article goes into some historical perspective about blacks and guns -- the Dred Scott decision, and the creation of "black" laws by the states regarding gun ownership.

    It might be interesting to speculate on the parallels between this and 'gays with guns.'

    The article is written by Charles Cooke of the National Review, a prominent conservative journal.

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    Oct 28, 2014 12:08 AM GMT
    From experience with friends from NJ, NY, PA and AZ - people who are "into" guns are slightly more nuts than people who arenn't - it's just true. My sample size is maybe 12-15 people.

    These are urban/suburban/exurban people, not somebody in the middle of Idaho
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    Oct 29, 2014 6:10 AM GMT
    Hypocritical liberal democrat US Senator Kirsten Gillebrand of NY keeps 2 loaded shotguns under her bed despite having a toddler:

    http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/sen-kirsten-gillibrand-says-she-keeps-2-rifles-under-bed-1.887707

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    Oct 29, 2014 7:17 PM GMT
    No. Black men get shot all the time just reaching for their wallets.

    I would never carry a gun. If you have a gun and you're black a police officer can do whatever he wants to you and say "oops he had a gun"

    The mere suspicion that you might possibly maybe have a gun is enough to get shot to death so most black men wouldn't dream of actually carrying them. Most black people don't really care about the right to bear arms, probs for that reason.
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    Oct 30, 2014 4:47 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    tj85016 saidFrom experience with friends from NJ, NY, PA and AZ - people who are "into" guns are slightly more nuts than people who arenn't - it's just true. My sample size is maybe 12-15 people.

    These are urban/suburban/exurban people, not somebody in the middle of Idaho


    What an idiotic assertion to make. You basically start by talking of your personal experience which is perfectly fine. Then it is followed by your personal conclusion (or rather,judgment) that people are "more nuts" which is typical of what you provide on the threads. And then to assert that your conclusion with "it's just true" implies a universality; all from your extensive sample pool of "twelve or fifteen" people.


    it's just true that those 12-15 gun owning people I cited are slightly more nuts than people I know who don't have guns

    ok? you must be one insufferable jackass
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    Oct 30, 2014 7:51 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidFrom experience with friends from NJ, NY, PA and AZ - people who are "into" guns are slightly more nuts than people who arenn't - it's just true. My sample size is maybe 12-15 people.

    These are urban/suburban/exurban people, not somebody in the middle of Idaho


    It's probably geographically related. My experiences with friends and acquaintances has been the opposite. In the rural areas, it's more common for a household to have a gun than not. And all of those folks are pretty stable.

    In addition, a lot of people who own guns just don't talk about it. The grief they would get from liberal anti-gunners just isn't worth the trouble.

    It's effectively just another closet...