Slandering your opponents with cheap shot insults when you disagree with them. Do you view those who do this as lacking the intellectual insight to realise that those who disagree with them have something to contribute equally as valid as their own rigid stance on a particular issue

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    Oct 27, 2014 5:12 PM GMT
    I have noticed a few times that subject matter is commented on with direct personalised slander and even thinly veiled threatening language to in order to force opponents of their views to remove themselves from the conversation. Should those persons be able to continue to do that and is RJ doing enough to weed them out?
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    Oct 27, 2014 7:26 PM GMT
    I think threatening language should be moderated and the perpetrator probably banned from the website.

    The site should address slander/libel because they may be legally liable for it.

    Personal attacks are annoying and distracting, but usually the remedy to stop them becomes worse than the problem ... e.g., P.C. timidity, perpetual victim mentality, stifling of conversation. Better to have a thick skin and ignore or defuse personal attacks.
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    Oct 27, 2014 9:07 PM GMT
    Sorry, I fell asleep just after "cheap shot insults".
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    Oct 27, 2014 9:22 PM GMT
    You've been using your STI crusade to marginalize a certain group. If it's not self evident why that would make people turn on you, then the basics of human nature are beyond your comprehension.
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    Oct 27, 2014 10:02 PM GMT
    sf_swimmer saidI think threatening language should be moderated and the perpetrator probably banned from the website.

    The site should address slander/libel because they may be legally liable for it.

    Personal attacks are annoying and distracting, but usually the remedy to stop them becomes worse than the problem ... e.g., P.C. timidity, perpetual victim mentality, stifling of conversation. Better to have a thick skin and ignore or defuse personal attacks.


    Actually owners of a platform are not generally liable for the content users post. And libel laws in the USA are extremely tight. You have to prove that it was indeed false, the person making the statement did or shouldve known it was false and that the falsehood harmed you. Courts generally favor free speech.

    But I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure my layman's interpretation will be corrected soon enough.
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    Oct 27, 2014 10:30 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidSorry, I fell asleep just after "cheap shot insults".

    Ha ha
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    Wyndahoi saidAnd libel laws in the USA are extremely tight. You have to prove that it was indeed false, the person making the statement did or shouldve known it was false and that the falsehood harmed you. Courts generally favor free speech.

    But I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure my layman's interpretation will be corrected soon enough.

    No need for correction. Your summation is entirely accurate.
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    Wyndahoi said
    sf_swimmer saidI think threatening language should be moderated and the perpetrator probably banned from the website.

    The site should address slander/libel because they may be legally liable for it.

    Personal attacks are annoying and distracting, but usually the remedy to stop them becomes worse than the problem ... e.g., P.C. timidity, perpetual victim mentality, stifling of conversation. Better to have a thick skin and ignore or defuse personal attacks.


    Actually owners of a platform are not generally liable for the content users post. And libel laws in the USA are extremely tight. You have to prove that it was indeed false, the person making the statement did or shouldve known it was false and that the falsehood harmed you. Courts generally favor free speech.

    But I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure my layman's interpretation will be corrected soon enough.


    And you aren't American so...

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    HottJoe saidYou've been using your STI crusade to marginalize a certain group. If it's not self evident why that would make people turn on you, then the basics of human nature are beyond your comprehension.


    Uglyjoe, all that I can see is I am thick skinned and me attitude to people putting shit on me online is 'bring it on f**kers' coz I know as well they do that they have nothing left and it often says so much about their character.

    Since you like to through around sloppy character assassinations of me then I think it's appropriate to point out that your arrogance to think people would find you attractive which there is no evidence of both in appearance or your online demeanour, I have renamed you Uglyjoe which is more beffitmg and hence the name you will be referred to for all forums where I address or respond to you.

    This post is not so much about me but the way some people behave when their point of view is challenged and that some members of RJ are belittled online for no reason. Not everyone is like me, I appreciate positive feedback and have lots of it. It's in my email as personal messages an none of anyone's business.

    Some people find sites like this an outlet into the gay world and when they are insulted for posting a view that you don't like, that instead of being challenged and potentially altered, it gets a negative re-Inforcemeat. My friend & RJ member NICKK knows me well and as he is a good mate I would listen to his advise over anything said from someone like you. NICKK was one if those guys who was isolated and this site provided inspiration to come out and be the awesoem young guy he is now but I wonder if he had posted more and received the sort of responses you and some other idiots throw out on here regularly for your own amusement

    Regarding me not knowing human nature?? Hey looser I am a University qualified sociologist who has had input into government and NGO major policy reforms some of which even now are utilised in the USA. I have signed confidentiality agreements so don't bother asking for details but I"ll happily post a pic of my university degree I can do so at some point in time. What are your credentials??? I never asked for other peoples but since your throwing stones put up or shut up
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    Oct 28, 2014 4:27 AM GMT

    I remember Count/Counterpoint, a funny original SNL skit, its subjects are too PC for today so its hard to find any of these on you tube or vimeo icon_confused.gif



    Dan Aykroyd Said What? The Things We Laughed at in '78 Have Become Right-wing Talking Points

    http://www.bubblews.com/news/4542-dan-aykroyd-said-what-the-things-we-laughed-at-in-03978-have-become-right-wing-talking-points


    Dan Aykroyd: Tonight on "Point/Counterpoint", Jane and I will argue Federal Aid for Abortions. Jane will take the Point for Federal Aid, and I will take the Counterpoint against. Jane?

    Jane Curtin: Safe abortions have always been available to the rich, Dan. You simply want to deny them to the poor, and if you succeed, poor woman will be forced to get them anyway. They'll be forced into the alleys with hangers, plungers and vacuum cleaners, risking death or mutilation. But you'd like that, wouldn't you, Dan, you sadistic, elitist, sexist, racist, anti-humanist pig!

    Dan Aykroyd: Jane, you ignorant, misguided slut! Once again, you missed the point entirely. [ enraged ] Why should I pay hard-earned dollars so welfare tarts can have sex anytime they want, without regards to consequences? Haven't these bimbos heard of abstinence? I, myself, haven't had sex for two years - and I'm rich! Why should I foot the bill for killing unborn infants, anyway? I'll pay for something practical like sterilization - but abortions? Never! With one exception - if I had been around when your mother was having you, not only would I have paid for the abortion, but I would have performed it myself!*
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    Wyndahoi said
    sf_swimmer saidI think threatening language should be moderated and the perpetrator probably banned from the website.

    The site should address slander/libel because they may be legally liable for it.

    Personal attacks are annoying and distracting, but usually the remedy to stop them becomes worse than the problem ... e.g., P.C. timidity, perpetual victim mentality, stifling of conversation. Better to have a thick skin and ignore or defuse personal attacks.


    Actually owners of a platform are not generally liable for the content users post. And libel laws in the USA are extremely tight. You have to prove that it was indeed false, the person making the statement did or shouldve known it was false and that the falsehood harmed you. Courts generally favor free speech.

    But I'm not a lawyer, I'm sure my layman's interpretation will be corrected soon enough.


    And you aren't American so...



    You think because I live in Montreal I'm no American? I've lived here since July but was born and raised in upstate NY.
  • frogman89

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    Oct 28, 2014 10:27 AM GMT
    Sydney, it's interesting how accuse others of what you do. You describe your own behavior. Don't you see the irony?
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    frogman89 saidSydney, it's interesting how accuse others of what you do. You describe your own behavior. Don't you see the irony?


    Sydneyflop reminds me of a prior rj member from Australia who was known for playing these weak games. If he didn't have a verified account I would be inclined to believe it was this nurse who had the name "aussie" something in his screen name.

    He's still here, still delusional, still spouting literal gibberish.
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    Oct 31, 2014 7:48 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]MuchMoreThanMuscle said[/cite]If your pictures have already been stolen then its pretty pointless to hide.

    I'm not bitter but the likes of you sour me. There are only three people on this site that I don't care for and you're one of them. You all three are like triplets separated at birth. Gasbags spreading libel on the site.

    Just because I shit on you in defense to your lies and personal attacks doesn't make me a bitter person. But that is typical of someone like you to come to grossly inaccurate conclusions. You think the world revolves around you. If someone doesn't take your shit you conclude by telling yourself, "something must be wrong with him because I'm a superstar and I'm Scruffyslit and I'm flawless, damn it."[/quo
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    Shown above Here is an example taken from the people who throw out the biggest insults

    I have many more from him and his mates
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    Oct 31, 2014 10:17 AM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidMuchMoreThanMuscle said If your pictures have already been stolen then its pretty pointless to hide.

    I'm not bitter but the likes of you sour me. There are only three people on this site that I don't care for and you're one of them. You all three are like triplets separated at birth. Gasbags spreading libel on the site.

    Just because I shit on you in defense to your lies and personal attacks doesn't make me a bitter person. But that is typical of someone like you to come to grossly inaccurate conclusions. You think the world revolves around you. If someone doesn't take your shit you conclude by telling yourself, "something must be wrong with him because I'm a superstar and I'm Scruffyslit and I'm flawless, damn it."[/quote]

    Shown above Here is an example taken from the people who throw out the biggest insults

    I have many more from him and his mates

    Oh NOW you can quote? You don't ever quote when it comes to your anti-HIV agenda but NOW YOU FUCKING CAN? You just make yourself look more and more ridiculous with every post you place.

    Sydneyrugbyjock73 said
    HottJoe saidYou've been using your STI crusade to marginalize a certain group. If it's not self evident why that would make people turn on you, then the basics of human nature are beyond your comprehension.


    Uglyjoe, all that I can see is I am thick skinned and me attitude to people putting shit on me online is 'bring it on f**kers' coz I know as well they do that they have nothing left and it often says so much about their character.

    Since you like to through around sloppy character assassinations of me then I think it's appropriate to point out that your arrogance to think people would find you attractive which there is no evidence of both in appearance or your online demeanour, I have renamed you Uglyjoe which is more beffitmg and hence the name you will be referred to for all forums where I address or respond to you.



    Exhibit A. Right from this Thread.
    Oh and just so you know: I for example do consider HottJoe attractive and his "demeanour" amusing. Don't generalize your opinion. You will find that people on here actually very rarely agree with you.
  • Bowyn_Aerrow

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    Nov 04, 2014 12:21 AM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidI have noticed a few times that subject matter is commented on with direct personalised slander and even thinly veiled threatening language to in order to force opponents of their views to remove themselves from the conversation. Should those persons be able to continue to do that and is RJ doing enough to weed them out?


    Depends on the context.

    We all have our good days and out bad days, we all have subjects that annoy us and bring out the bad. The occasional slip out of civility is acceptable, to a point.

    If its done again and again for no other purpose than to be uncivilized, then Exile from civilization (or voted off the island) is appropriate.
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    Sydneyrugbyjock73 saidMuchMoreThanMuscle said If your pictures have already been stolen then its pretty pointless to hide.

    I'm not bitter but the likes of you sour me. There are only three people on this site that I don't care for and you're one of them. You all three are like triplets separated at birth. Gasbags spreading libel on the site.

    Just because I shit on you in defense to your lies and personal attacks doesn't make me a bitter person. But that is typical of someone like you to come to grossly inaccurate conclusions. You think the world revolves around you. If someone doesn't take your shit you conclude by telling yourself, "something must be wrong with him because I'm a superstar and I'm Scruffyslit and I'm flawless, damn it."[/quote]

    Shown above Here is an example taken from the people who throw out the biggest insults

    I have many more from him and his mates

    Oh NOW you can quote? You don't ever quote when it comes to your anti-HIV agenda but NOW YOU FUCKING CAN? You just make yourself look more and more ridiculous with every post you place.

    Sydneyrugbyjock73 said
    HottJoe saidYou've been using your STI crusade to marginalize a certain group. If it's not self evident why that would make people turn on you, then the basics of human nature are beyond your comprehension.


    Uglyjoe, all that I can see is I am thick skinned and me attitude to people putting shit on me online is 'bring it on f**kers' coz I know as well they do that they have nothing left and it often says so much about their character.

    Since you like to through around sloppy character assassinations of me then I think it's appropriate to point out that your arrogance to think people would find you attractive which there is no evidence of both in appearance or your online demeanour, I have renamed you Uglyjoe which is more beffitmg and hence the name you will be referred to for all forums where I address or respond to you.



    Exhibit A. Right from this Thread.
    Oh and just so you know: I for example do consider HottJoe attractive and his "demeanour" amusing. Don't generalize your opinion. You will find that people on here actually very rarely agree with you.

    Find me one thread where i posted insults but I was not personally insulted first?? Go ahead I'm waiting, also it ps very suspicious that you and your two HIV poz muscled FB have been sticking together.

    You are sticking your nose into something that is none of your business. I had always been respectful even when disagreeing with up you prior of to this issue yet you jumped in with all the same emotional responses that the other two do. If that means your Poz then I can understand it more of which is your business except for those you sleep with that is.

    Maybe your planning on or a actually a FB of one or both of those guys. Please own up as it sure looks like it. Also go for it with Joe I wouldn't touch either of you and don't care if you would with me
  • frogman89

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    Nov 05, 2014 5:41 PM GMT
    ^

    As I said. You get more and more ridiculous with every post you place.

    I'm reacting to this because you propagandize. You spread huge lies while you are rude and intolerant. You are toxic to this forum.
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    Nov 05, 2014 9:42 PM GMT
    one thing i cant stomach is the personal attacks! they are disgusting! calling people ugly, this needs to stop! .
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    guido4life saidone thing i cant stomach is the personal attacks! they are disgusting! calling people ugly, this needs to stop! .

    Only ugly people call others ugly. They are just too insecure about themselves.
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    Nov 06, 2014 12:55 PM GMT
    frogman89 said^

    As I said. You get more and more ridiculous with every post you place.

    I'm reacting to this because you propagandize. You spread huge lies while you are rude and intolerant. You are toxic to this forum.


    I'm pretty sure your a robot as you have the same response everytime so run away little boy
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    Nov 06, 2014 1:14 PM GMT
    Sydneyrugbyjock73 said
    frogman89 said^

    As I said. You get more and more ridiculous with every post you place.

    I'm reacting to this because you propagandize. You spread huge lies while you are rude and intolerant. You are toxic to this forum.


    I'm pretty sure your a robot as you have the same response everytime so run away little boy

    *you're