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    Oct 27, 2014 5:37 PM GMT
    The battle over which restroom and locker room people should be allowed to use seems to be raging across America. I don't think gender identity should have any bearing on this issue, but rather your sexual anatomy. Personally, I would not want any female anatomy in a men's restroom or locker room and wouldn't really feel comfortable in a restroom and locker room with anyone who doesn't have a penis. If you have a sex change, then come on in. lol
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    Oct 27, 2014 5:55 PM GMT
    is it Miller time yet?
  • tj85016

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    Oct 27, 2014 6:25 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidis it Miller time yet?


    somewhere, yes
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    Oct 27, 2014 6:45 PM GMT
    tj85016 said
    Sharkspeare saidis it Miller time yet?


    somewhere, yes

    The OP knows what I'm talking about. I suspect he won't reply though.
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    Oct 27, 2014 10:06 PM GMT
    I agree.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 27, 2014 10:13 PM GMT
    I still remember the story when I was in high school... 2 female friends of mine had been drinking and went into a Taco Bell, then went into a man's restroom to relieve themselves. One of them, Marie, was overweight and just sat on the sink, which collapsed.

    They managed to get out as the water flowed out under the door and a male customer was heading into toward the restroom. They were laughing so hard as they ran out of the place.

    I wasn't there, but I've heard about that one for years.... they told me there was only one toilet and the rest urinals.... so that was the reason the sink became a toilet....

    Not sure why they didn't go to the woman's restroom, but they thought it was the right one.....hahaha.

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    Oct 27, 2014 10:13 PM GMT
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  • buddycat

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    Oct 27, 2014 10:53 PM GMT
    I have been in men's restrooms and fitting rooms where women walk in freely and it is seriously annoying. I don't know why they think they have to the right to do this, employee or non-employee.
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    Oct 28, 2014 4:10 AM GMT
    If I have to go, I have absolutely no problem using a single-user women's restroom because I know they do the same, and I leave THEIR bathroom CLEANER.
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:29 AM GMT
    Women are just as gross as men when it comes to bathroom etiquette. I don't want to walk into a bathroom stall and see bloody tampons floating in the toilet, or tossed on the floor. Fuhhh.
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:32 AM GMT
    xrichx saidWomen are just as gross as men when it comes to bathroom etiquette. I don't want to walk into a bathroom stall and see bloody tampons floating in the toilet, or tossed on the floor. Fuhhh.

    I dunno; I've seen way too many toilets in men's room where someone has left the seat down and pissed all over it. Even in supposedly classy venues.
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    Oct 28, 2014 5:34 AM GMT
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    xrichx saidWomen are just as gross as men when it comes to bathroom etiquette. I don't want to walk into a bathroom stall and see bloody tampons floating in the toilet, or tossed on the floor. Fuhhh.

    I dunno; I've seen way too many toilets in men's room where someone has left the seat down and pissed all over it. Even in supposedly classy venues.

    There are some fucked up people out there. Particularly, the ones that smear shit all over the walls.
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    Oct 28, 2014 8:07 AM GMT
    xrichx said
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    xrichx saidWomen are just as gross as men when it comes to bathroom etiquette. I don't want to walk into a bathroom stall and see bloody tampons floating in the toilet, or tossed on the floor. Fuhhh.

    I dunno; I've seen way too many toilets in men's room where someone has left the seat down and pissed all over it. Even in supposedly classy venues.

    There are some fucked up people out there. Particularly, the ones that smear shit all over the walls.

    People smear shit over walls? Where? That's fucked upicon_eek.gif
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    Oct 28, 2014 11:22 AM GMT
    http://news.yahoo.com/the-new-face-of-transgender-youth-231106807.html

    I used to think along the lines of the OP, but fortunately I have met and made friends with transgender people and realize its a way more complicated issue and an ounce of empathy goes a long way. Also stop viewing the restroom as a sexualized experience and you may find that whatever naked bits you're seeing doesn't matter...
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    Oct 28, 2014 11:52 AM GMT
    pasfu31 saidhttp://news.yahoo.com/the-new-face-of-transgender-youth-231106807.html

    I used to think along the lines of the OP, but fortunately I have met and made friends with transgender people and realize its a way more complicated issue and an ounce of empathy goes a long way. Also stop viewing the restroom as a sexualized experience and you may find that whatever naked bits you're seeing doesn't matter...


    And who sees anyone else's naked bits in the bathroom anyway?!?
    If you don't have a penis youre going to be using a stall anyway. One percent or less of people are trans. So your chances of being in a bathroom with one is low. Your chances of knowing it are even lower. It's so not a big deal.
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    Oct 28, 2014 12:22 PM GMT
    I run into women using the men's restrooms in US airports and stadiums fairly often. I know one of the reasons in older sports stadiums is that they were originally designed based on far fewer female attendance numbers expected than today, so that now the women's rooms develop waiting lines. That's not true in the modern US airports in which I've also seen this happen, however.

    I've never seen them get hassled in there, although it is disconcerting as I'm standing at a row of non-partitioned urinals and hear the clip-clop of women's high heels right behind me. Of course you know what would happen if a man tried to use the ladies room in the US: he'd likely find himself talking with stadium, airport or mall security in no time.

    On the other hand, I've been in gay clubs where the women have a clearly marked restroom. Yet some guys feel free to use them. Despite the mens room being larger and not full. I don't understand that uncouth behavior.
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    Oct 28, 2014 3:36 PM GMT
    michael61 saidThe battle over which restroom and locker room people should be allowed to use seems to be raging across America. I don't think gender identity should have any bearing on this issue, but rather your sexual anatomy. Personally, I would not want any female anatomy in a men's restroom or locker room and wouldn't really feel comfortable in a restroom and locker room with anyone who doesn't have a penis. If you have a sex change, then come on in. lol


    So if a male with female anatomy came into the restroom and saw you, why would that make you uncomfortable? I promise you that the female anatomy will not jump at you. ;) Seriously though, I think it would be a good idea to ask yourself what about it makes you feel uncomfortable. As well as asking yourself how logical the reasoning is.
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    Oct 28, 2014 3:43 PM GMT
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    xrichx saidWomen are just as gross as men when it comes to bathroom etiquette. I don't want to walk into a bathroom stall and see bloody tampons floating in the toilet, or tossed on the floor. Fuhhh.

    I dunno; I've seen way too many toilets in men's room where someone has left the seat down and pissed all over it. Even in supposedly classy venues.

    I'm glad you got my subtext which is that women are way dirtier.

    I once worked for one of the world's top law firms in Manhattan. We're not talking a Denny's or a gas station with loads of itinerants pissing on seats and scrawling on walls, but a place where the restrooms were used mostly by professionals who had to work late, and working late myself I'd sometimes ask the janitors cleaning the bathrooms who were messier and dirtier, men or women. Each and every one, including the women janitors, said "women." I didn't press them as to why because I assumed the reason was why their bathrooms in college dorms were so dirty, i.e. pancake makeup caked on every fixture (the buckets of toiletries and drying clothes covering and lining every surface I figured didn't apply to office bathrooms). Only later when I was older and my bathroom needs grew more urgent did I discover the real reason - toilet paper they use to line the toilet set and discard on the floor along with their used napkins, tampons and greasy makeup tissues. My sexist theory as to why women are always so much messier in women's rooms, and a disproportionate amount of single women are so dirty and messy in their homes, is that they figure at some point they'll be cleaning bathrooms for the rest of their lives for some man or kid and until then they're coasting.

    As for men pissing on the toilet seat, that's so true that in unisex bathrooms I often leave the toilet seat up so that no woman will have to use a piss-covered seat and what's my reward? Being screamed for leaving the seat up. I guess being a woman means having cramps and urinary needs so urgent that they can't be bothered to look before they sit and women everywhere are falling into toilet bowls due to selfish men leaving the seat up.
  • HndsmKansan

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    Oct 28, 2014 3:49 PM GMT
    It really can become a major health issue. I know of several male friends that simply use the sink as a urinal if the toilet or urinals are too dirty. If a pubic restroom is offered, they must be kept clean.
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    Oct 28, 2014 4:07 PM GMT
    michael61 said...I...wouldn't really feel comfortable in a restroom and locker room with anyone who doesn't have a penis. If you have a sex change, then come on in. lol


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    http://health.usnews.com/health-news/articles/2014/02/21/modern-war-wounds-can-devastate-vets-sexual-emotional-health
    FRIDAY, Feb. 21, 2014 (HealthDay News) -- The tools of war have changed. With the increased use of powerful explosive devices, men and women patrolling on foot in bomb-laced areas of combat are increasingly suffering traumatic injuries to the groin and genitals, experts say.

    Those injuries can pose complex long-term sexual and psychological challenges.

    It is hard to even imagine having your genitals crushed, burned or ripped off in a blast by a makeshift bomb, said Dr. Chris Gonzalez, the lead author of a new review article published recently in The Journal of Men's Health. "For some, it's even worse than losing a limb," he said.


    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/21/beyond-the-battlefield-afghanistan-genital-injuries_n_1335356.html
    Before they went off to fight in Afghanistan, the guys of 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines talked quietly about their deepest fear. Not dying. Not losing a leg or an arm.

    It was having their genitals ripped off, burned away or crushed in the fiery blast of an improvised explosive device.

    This was no idle concern to young men bursting with testosterone. The makeshift bombs known as IEDs are taking a frightening toll in Afghanistan, the blasts shearing off arms and legs, ripping through soft flesh, crushing organs and bone, and driving dirt, rocks and filth deep into torn flesh -- often leaving the genitals shredded or missing. Some guys said they'd rather be dead.


    http://www.theafa.org/article/war-and-male-genital-trauma/
    The wars in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past decade have resulted in over 50,000 United States combat related injuries. Genitourinary (GU) trauma accounted for roughly one in twenty of all these injuries. The vast majority of these injuries were puncturing (penetrating) in nature and most were as a result of improvised explosive devices (IEDs). A breakdown of the genito-urinary injuries to the external genitalia was as follows: scrotum in 29%, testis in 9%, and penis in 14%.1 The aftermath of all these injuries from both a physical and mental standpoint are as yet unknown. Blast injuries to the male external genitalia are much different than those injuries seen in civilian practice. Civilian penetrating trauma is typically secondary to gun shot or knife wounds. Blast injuries from IEDs commonly injure the lower extremities in addition to the external genitalia. Typically the wounds are grossly contaminated with debris from the blast. Initial treatment of the wounds depends on the overall severity of the patient's injuries and the concurrent need for damage control resuscitation and surgery.


    So sorry that you find living on the planet has inconvenienced you in any way. We certainly want you to be completely comfortable with yourself when you piss in public.
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    Oct 28, 2014 4:54 PM GMT
    I remember a public rest room I saw in Korea , it wasn't assigned a gender , there was a trough type thing for guys to pee into and holes in the floor for females.

    If a guy had to dump he squatted over the hole , and at any time using this facility guy's and girls are in there at the same time.
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    Oct 28, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidI run into women using the men's restrooms in US airports and stadiums fairly often. I know one of the reasons in older sports stadiums is that they were originally designed based on far fewer female attendance numbers expected than today, so that now the women's rooms develop waiting lines. That's not true in the modern US airports in which I've also seen this happen, however.

    I've never seen them get hassled in there, although it is disconcerting as I'm standing at a row of non-partitioned urinals and hear the clip-clop of women's high heels right behind me. Of course you know what would happen if a man tried to use the ladies room in the US: he'd likely find himself talking with stadium, airport or mall security in no time.

    On the other hand, I've been in gay clubs where the women have a clearly marked restroom. Yet some guys feel free to use them. Despite the mens room being larger and not full. I don't understand that uncouth behavior.


    Once, at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis, I accidentally used the women's rest room in the west bank library. That part of the building was symmetrical and the signs were up high where one would not see them unless looking for them, so it was an easy mistake to make. After I was in the stall for a few minutes, I noticed provision to discard feminine products at which point I realized that I was in the wrong rest room. Then, I heard female voices. I lifted my feet from the floor so no one could see men's shoes under the door. I was just about panic stricken and imagined that if caught, I might be arrested. When everything became quiet, I made a B line for the door.
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    Oct 28, 2014 8:20 PM GMT
    I once used an unmarked toilet in a gay bar and when I came out two lesbians berated me for using the women's toilet. It seemed like they had decided their duty for the night was to be the toilet police. Whatever makes you happy I guess, although they were very angry about me using it. In Brighton some wag has scratched the skirt off of a women's public toilet sign so it looks like a men's toilet. The toilet attendant told me off there, but I don't really care.
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    Oct 28, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
    metta8 said
    michael61 saidThe battle over which restroom and locker room people should be allowed to use seems to be raging across America. I don't think gender identity should have any bearing on this issue, but rather your sexual anatomy. Personally, I would not want any female anatomy in a men's restroom or locker room and wouldn't really feel comfortable in a restroom and locker room with anyone who doesn't have a penis. If you have a sex change, then come on in. lol


    So if a male with female anatomy came into the restroom and saw you, why would that make you uncomfortable? I promise you that the female anatomy will not jump at you. ;) Seriously though, I think it would be a good idea to ask yourself what about it makes you feel uncomfortable. As well as asking yourself how logical the reasoning is.


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    Oct 28, 2014 8:57 PM GMT
    Ohno saidI once used an unmarked toilet in a gay bar and when I came out two lesbians berated me for using the women's toilet. It seemed like they had decided their duty for the night was to be the toilet police. Whatever makes you happy I guess, although they were very angry about me using it. In Brighton some wag has scratched the skirt off of a women's public toilet sign so it looks like a men's toilet. The toilet attendant told me off there, but I don't really care.

    Yep. At the BART train stations here they're single person restrooms/WCs with locking doors and one time the men's was in use and nobody was waiting for the women's so I used it. When I came out a woman was waiting and she started screaming at me. It was the only time I'd wished I'd left the seat down and pissed all over it; I'd like to have given her a real reason for screaming at me.