Do people in your church believe in God? Two graphs of America’s 43 largest faiths

  • metta

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    Oct 29, 2014 5:16 AM GMT
    Do people in your church believe in God? Two graphs of America’s 43 largest faiths



    - See more at: http://tobingrant.religionnews.com/2014/10/24/belief-god-atheists-graphs-churches-religions-faiths/
  • HottJoe

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    Oct 29, 2014 4:02 PM GMT
    Nah, they're all just a bunch of tax dodgers.
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    Oct 29, 2014 4:55 PM GMT
    I find hope in this graph and perhaps quite a bit of misunderstanding or misperception particularly concerning where Muslims wind up on it...

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    Look! They're down there towards the sane people. And the crazies like the Mormons and the born-agains, they're way up at the top. This very much reinforces my desire to maybe one day live in a Buddhist country instead of staying here. I might like to experience that breath of fresh air.

    I've already experienced life with the crazy people. I feel I've had my fill of them. And the weird thing is that you can see them coming a mile away yet they are so abundant here that they wind up in your life. A neighbor has tried preaching to me. Yikes. Jehovah Witnesses invade the sanctuary of my garden and come right up to my front door. Yikes.

    When I was a little kid, there were two younger siblings of two different friends of mine who I did not like one bit. I knew they were off. Snotty little fucking brats. You'll notice their type online, they come in various forms. Both grew up into religious freaks causing problems for their families. One born to a Jewish friend of mine became a Jew for Jesus. Yikes. And the other married another friend of mine and became a Mormon. Now she's divorcing my friend, claiming him the devil or some shit. He's been making in the high six figures all these years and recently discovered that he has no money. She's been giving it all to her church.

    These people are fucking crazy. Maybe I should have warned my friends back then, but who listens to a seven-year-old. But seriously, when they grew up into what they grew into, their life made perfect sense to me that this was their direction from childhood: crazyland.
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    Oct 31, 2014 4:39 AM GMT
    Hm, Belief in God vs. Belief in a Personal God.

    God the Creator / The Activities of a Nebula where stars are formed. Nebula creates the Star/Sun which creates its planets.

    God the Creator = the Activities of a Nebula then the Activities of a Star/Solar System.

    Personal God: Don't know what you mean. If you mean the Impersonal God is aware of a person: yes, but that's not a personal God, that's personal attention from God.
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    Oct 31, 2014 4:47 AM GMT
    God the Creator = the Activities of a Nebula then the Activities of a Star/Solar System ...

    then the Activities of the Earth and its Moon
    then the Activities of Gaia and then the Activities of our species.
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    Oct 31, 2014 5:00 AM GMT
    I don't think there's such a thing as a Personal God.

    You have your guardian angel/s or Spirit Guide, your ancestors, your sense of Savior/Christ, your natal chart and locational astrology map.

    Hm, the way the Matrix of the Solar System is snapped like a photograph at birth definitely orders one's ways but that's the cabinet of God as Solar System Matrix uniquely arranged for your personal incarnation/s.

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    Oct 31, 2014 5:11 AM GMT
    And this is why too much emphasis on personal responsibility is wrong. Know humanity. Everyone is not born with their north node in house 1. Don't preach to us as if it were.
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    Oct 31, 2014 12:18 PM GMT
    What about the atheists and agnostics who are certain god exists? I'm betting they're anti-theists rather than atheists. They believe in God but don't like him.
  • LJay

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    Nov 01, 2014 10:23 PM GMT
    Because today we are in between Halloween and an election, as well as in reference to the above, it is appropriate to recall the advice of Peanuts, a very wise comic strip that says that one should never discuss religion, politics or the Great Pumpkin.
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    Nov 02, 2014 3:21 AM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidWhat about the atheists and agnostics who are certain god exists? I'm betting they're anti-theists rather than atheists. They believe in God but don't like him.


    Atheists are certain god exists?
    Agnostics are certain god exists?

    How'd you come up with that?

    Atheists and agnostics believe in God but don't like him?

    How'd you come up with atheists even believing in God?

    How'd you come up with agnostics believing in God?

    Believers in God don't always like the rules of God's game.

    Here's something I'm not too fond of about God as Solar System Matrix:

    He (the year of the Rabbit/Cat person) is your Peach Blossom.
    You (the year of the Tiger person) are not his Peach Blossom.
    He (the Peach Blossom Rabbit/Cat person) creates love triangles because he is peach blossom to your trine brothers: Tiger-Dog-Horse.

    BUT, God hooks you to him because being with him brings accomplishments, growth, and progress:

    You're Lovers in Kind for the sake of accomplishments, growth, and progress.

    BUT Tiger-Rabbit
    The Tiger's energy level and verve tends to overwhelm the easily beleaguered Rabbit. The Tiger is boisterous and fearless, while the Rabbit is understated and fainthearted. There are much better matches for both. - Shelly Wu

    How Am I Supposed to Win in Love?

    Apparently loving a Peach Blossom is a more romantic experience than being in a relationship with my trines: Dogs and Horses. And I am not a fan of un-evolved Dogs and their damn adolescent barking.

    God, though you slay me, yet will I serve you.
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    Nov 02, 2014 12:34 PM GMT
    TomSOCAL

    I'm a Deist, like Thomas Jefferson. That means that I know there is a Creator, but I don't know which religion is correct.

    Stephen/Steefen

    Deism is philosophically flawed in my opinion. When I read Age of Reason, I learned Thomas Paine became a deist. The way he explained it made it flawed. Maybe it was too human-centric, I don't remember. That was more than nine years ego when I covered the subject.

    TomSOCAL

    Since being gay is genetic, then the current translations of the Old and New Testaments are not correct.

    Stephen/Steefen

    Being gay is also spiritual-astrological.

    "Since being gay is genetic, then the current translations of the Bible are incorrect" has a big assumption. You're assuming the text in its original language corrects for the science you're referencing.

    TomSOCAL

    Even the Mormons believe that gay orientation is inborn, and not a choice, but acting on it is sinful.
    See,
    http://mormonsandgays.org/

    Where the Church stands:
    The experience of same-sex attraction is a complex reality for many people. The attraction itself is not a sin, but acting on it is. Even though individuals do not choose to have such attractions, they do choose how to respond to them. With love and understanding, the Church reaches out to all God’s children, including our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters.


    Stephen/Steefen

    You're a baseball player, but you should never play baseball because doing so is a sin. Don't live your identity.
    Don't live. We murder you.
    The church reaches out to your living death--a waste of life, a life designed but unused, given no chance to be respectable.

    You're a policeman or fire fighter, but you should never work as a policeman or fire fighter because doing so is a sin. Don't live your identity.
    Don't live. We murder you.
    The church reaches out to your living death--a waste of life, a life designed but unused, given no chance to be respectable.

    You're a swimmer, ballerina, doctor, physicist, explorer, cook ... but you should never do these things because doing so is a sin. Don't live your identity.
    Don't live. We murder you.
    The church reaches out to your living death--a waste of life, a life designed but unused, given no chance to be respectable.

    Steefen
    author of
    The Greatest Bible Study in Historical Accuracy, 1st Edition
    (2nd Edition to be published soon)
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    Nov 02, 2014 12:51 PM GMT
    TomSOCAL said

    Even though individuals do not choose to have such attractions


    A man goes to a spa.
    The receptionist asks, "Do you prefer a male or female massage practitioner?
    The man chooses the extra strength and the gender bonding of the male practitioner (even if there is a female massage practitioner of same hand size and strength as a strong man).

    A spirit is born into a natal chart.
    Its North Node is in House 1, destiny to explore self, not House 7, destiny to explore and partner with the other.
    When presented with a male friendship that can become intimate and a female friendship that can become intimate, he chooses to explore intimacy with the same, not the other.

    People can choose to engage with a human on the same side of the spectrum or the opposite side of the spectrum.
  • muscleboundfe...

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    Nov 02, 2014 7:06 PM GMT
    This is about belief in a personal God not in God. Its really about the structure of your religious community and how much it mediates your relationship with God.