Smart People Listen To Radiohead, Dumb People Listen To Beyoncé, Study Finds

  • tj85016

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    Nov 01, 2014 8:50 AM GMT
    Now you can substantiate to today’s generation why that '60s and '70s era’s music was objectively "better," as JPMorgan's CIO Michael Cembalest has previously noted, and furthermore, researchers also found that popular music has gotten a lot louder (as SAT scores have plunged.. hhmm?) However, as Consequence of Sound notes, a software application writer by the name of Virgil Griffith has charted musical tastes based on the average SAT scores of various college institutions... and the results are.. interesting. Bob Dylan, The Shins, Radiohead, and Counting Crows are the favorite bands of smart people. Meanwhile, Lil Wayne, Beyoncé, The Used, and gospel music comes in at the lower end of the spectrum — or, as Griffith puts it, is music for dumb people.

    http://consequenceofsound.net/2014/10/smart-people-listen-to-radiohead-and-dumb-people-listen-to-beyonce-according-to-new-study/

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    Nov 01, 2014 9:15 AM GMT
    As someone who hates tv I wonder if it's also part of the equation? In other words, are the lower SAT scoring people spending more time in front of the boob tube?
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    Nov 01, 2014 9:48 AM GMT
    you know what this study unintentionally concluded that white people are more intelligent than blacks
  • frogman89

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    Nov 01, 2014 9:57 AM GMT
    People who like Beethoven seem to be extraordinarily smart. They are ahead of everyone.
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    Nov 01, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
    If they were really smart, they would actually label the axes of their graphs.icon_rolleyes.gif
    Note that the data is also limited to Facebook users...

    OK, I had to go look to see where they found campuses with average SAT scores in the 700's and even one at 665! No surprise... bunch of little church skools in the deep south. Plus Alabama State, Broward Community College, Univeristy of Arkansas, and CUNY.

    Not sure what it means (if anything) that individual artists scored high but genres as a whole scored low. e.g. "Beethoven" is a high outlier but "classical" is scored relatively low.
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    Nov 01, 2014 8:10 PM GMT
    I dunno. Counting Crows is ranked pretty high. I have to question the validity of this chart. icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 01, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
    xrichx saidI dunno. Counting Crows is ranked pretty high. I have to question the validity of this chart. icon_lol.gif

    As is Bob Dylan. For me listening to him is like listening to fingernails on a chalkboard.
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    Nov 02, 2014 3:02 AM GMT
    "Jazz" (an entire meta-genre of often complex and subtle music spanning nearly a century now) is given as an exceedingly narrow range near the bottom of the chart..

    "System of a Down" as a single narrow act apparently encompasses a wide variety of average scores.

    Basically the dumbass who made this chart didn't even clean up his input data after scraping last.fm to make the correlations meaningful; worse, he didn't actually provide enough (read: as much as you'd have to describe on the GRE basic stats questions) information to describe the statistical distribution for each. This only proves something about one person's intelligence.

    Finally, as mindgarden pointed out, it appears everything is counted by the school average SAT, not by the individual. So even if he knew basic statistics, and processed his data correctly, it was guaranteed to be mostly meaningless.

    (Pazzy makes a damn good point too.)
  • bishop65

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    Nov 03, 2014 3:03 PM GMT
    I call shenanigans...
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    Nov 03, 2014 3:05 PM GMT
    I sense bullshit. Paul McCartney listens to Beyonce. Is he a moron then?
  • FRE0

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    Nov 03, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal saidAs someone who hates tv I wonder if it's also part of the equation? In other words, are the lower SAT scoring people spending more time in front of the boob tube?


    The term "boob tube" must change. TV sets no longer have tubes.
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    Nov 03, 2014 6:31 PM GMT
    Apparently no one who presided over or conducted this study was 'smart enough to know' that even the college board (the creators of the SAT) admit that it should not be used to asses or predict intelligence.


    I got a 2260 and I love me some beyonce.

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    Nov 03, 2014 6:53 PM GMT
    What a load of bollocks tbh. I love Beyonce, and I also love Bach (real intellectual music). I take offence at being labelled dumb icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 03, 2014 7:22 PM GMT
    "Study Finds" or study claims?


    It claims no difference found between test takers with a preference for "beyonce" vs "jazz" and lots of other stuff
  • Svnw688

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    Nov 03, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
    Absolutely not.

    First, at best this is a correlation, and I'd dispute that. There is no causative factor here, so the music does not "make" you dumb--as the graphic/title state. It just go happens that certain groups like certain types of music, and because humans are conformist assholes, those traits are reinforced under a feedback effect (e.g., when you go to college you plaster up a Nirvana and Counting Crows poster and buy a shirt with a red solo cup on it that shows you enjoy beer pong). Beer pong does not MAKE you smart. It's just something almost ALL college kids do--myself included through graduation.

    Second, anybody who's ever been subjected to listening to Guster's "Fa Fa" or "4, 3, 2, 1, we're at the barrel of a gun...." or Counting Crow's depressing "I am colorblind, coffee black and egg white," and then wants to walk around with their nose up in the air is kidding themselves.

    This is the lamest attempt at "finding" truth that I've seen in a while, and quite frankly smacks as a less-than-thinly veiled racist and class-ist piece. What's next, a study funded by JCrew showing that wearing popped collars MAKES you smarter?
  • Trontastic

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    Nov 03, 2014 8:24 PM GMT
    At the moment, I'm listening to Queen. What does that make me?
  • Svnw688

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    Nov 03, 2014 8:26 PM GMT
    Trontastic saidAt the moment, I'm listening to Queen. What does that make me?


    Queen is on there, about 1050, average to slightly above average....if the "study" is to be believed icon_cool.gif