Why are Republicans so ANGRY? If you're Republican,what are your reasons? If not, what's your guess?

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    Nov 01, 2014 3:35 PM GMT
    For Republicans, what's going on that infuriates you most?
    Everyone else, what are you hearing from your Republican friends or by observing conservative media?
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    Nov 01, 2014 4:07 PM GMT
    The anger is never about what it claims to be about---that's why they keep changing the source of their fury every week or so (IRS, Benghazi!!!, now Ebola).

    What they're angry about is that the United States is fundamentally a changed place and they don't like the changes. It is younger, browner, less religious, and increasingly liberal (at least on social issues) and they feel marginalized. Old modes of behavior are no longer acceptable (sexism, gay-hate, racism) and they're not sure how to behave in the new environment. Many of them resort to yelling "PC" anytime someone calls them out on their behaviors, but what they're really saying is "you're making me uncomfortable". That's part of what's behind anti-marriage people. They feel profoundly uncomfortable and they're genuinely shocked that a majority of Americans no longer share those views.
  • Destinharbor

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    Nov 01, 2014 4:35 PM GMT
    Hate has always been a unifying force. Republican leadership (and mouthpieces) just uses it as a tool for fundraising and to get out the vote. Most Republicans I know are pretty nice people one-on-one but they still respond to the them vs us mentality when it comes to politics. They just see it as in their best interest which is selfish but they see it as self reliant.
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    Nov 01, 2014 5:09 PM GMT
    were t the democrats angry years back when prez Bush was in office? This is the same thing with Obama.


    what people are saying:
    -is the increasing crop of new voters will not relate much to the current republican rhetoric. In a few yeas look for a change in republican platform and this will happen quickly. Remember how big anti marriage equality was for republicans 2 years ago but this election its gone.
    -The mid terms look good for republicans and they will win. Stupid; as this will completely paralyze what little is left of the American government
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    Nov 01, 2014 5:15 PM GMT
    pellaz saidangry republicans
    were t the democrats angry years back when prez Bush was in office?

    angry democrats
    what am i hearing; the increasing crop of new voters are not relating much to the current republican rhetoric. The mid terms look good and they will win. Stupid as this will completely paralyze what little is left of the American government
    Oh yeah during the Bush years that is all we heard was the democrats bitter anger with just about everything because they didn't have the White House in their hands. I am no fan of G.W. Bush but I am no fan of Obama as well. Both are mediocre presidents.
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    Nov 01, 2014 5:35 PM GMT
    roadbikeRob said... no fan of G.W. Bush but I am no fan of Obama as well. Both are mediocre presidents.


    many people thought Bush was a disaster.
    Obama, did well for what he was left with.


    politics reflects the dark side human nature. You have to ask how you personally benefit as a gay man. the gay agenda is fragile and could suffer a set back with the wrong people in office. do you really think we could have done as good choosing any other alternative than Obama. No.
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    Nov 01, 2014 5:38 PM GMT
    pellaz saidwere t the democrats angry years back when prez Bush was in office? This is the same thing with Obama.


    This, this, a thousand times this.

    It's one reason my own falling out with the Democrats I knew ultimately led me to become totally disillusioned with the party following my 2000 Nadermania. I kept trying to tell the partisans I knew during Bush's first year and a half to tone it the fsck down and wait until he'd actually *done* something before blaming him for everything.

    I kept trying to tell them that if you don't scale it back now, it will be too late by the next time you get your own guy in office.

    I think I may be some sort of clairvoyant. The totally useless kind that only predicts the stupidest things that will happen in the future, and then only the obvious ones that everyone else just doesn't *want* to see.

    At any rate, though, I'll say it again: You can't tone down the other party's rhetoric. Ever. You can only tone down your own party's rhetoric, and that is a monumental undertaking requiring a great deal of persistence and discipline on the part of a lot of individuals. If you slip up and lose your head, you risk losing your entire contribution to this end.
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    Nov 01, 2014 5:42 PM GMT
    In reference to the OP, there *are* real actual threats to rural ways of life which will never be addressed by the Democratic party in its current form. Most of them are greatly exaggerated, but they are real enough to create a genuine concern. When concerns are ignored, they easily turn to fear; when fear is allowed to fester, anger is a natural by-product.

    No idea about the urban Rush listeners though. None of them are about to lose a their great-grandparents' family farm
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    Nov 01, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidThe anger is never about what it claims to be about---that's why they keep changing the source of their fury every week or so (IRS, Benghazi!!!, now Ebola).

    What they're angry about is that the United States is fundamentally a changed place and they don't like the changes. It is younger, browner, less religious, and increasingly liberal (at least on social issues) and they feel marginalized. Old modes of behavior are no longer acceptable (sexism, gay-hate, racism) and they're not sure how to behave in the new environment. Many of them resort to yelling "PC" anytime someone calls them out on their behaviors, but what they're really saying is "you're making me uncomfortable". That's part of what's behind anti-marriage people. They feel profoundly uncomfortable and they're genuinely shocked that a majority of Americans no longer share those views.


    +1!
  • tazzari

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    Nov 01, 2014 6:35 PM GMT
    were t the democrats angry years back when prez Bush was in office? This is the same thing with Obama.

    In all honesty, I can't remember anti-Bush rhetoric ever achieving the depths that anti-Obamaism has reached. Suing Bush? No. Vowing to ruin his presidency? No. Questioning his citizenship? No. Racial slurs? No.

    Sharkspeare puts it well. Though I prefer to say "some conservatives," as I know a few reasonable ones who aren't so fear-filled.

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    Nov 01, 2014 6:46 PM GMT
    yetanotherphil said there *are* real actual threats to rural ways of life which will never be addressed by the Democratic party in its current form. Most of them are greatly exaggerated, but they are real enough to create a genuine concern.



    Which particular threats to rural ways of life are you thinking of?
    And how do you feel Republicans are addressing these threats?


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    Nov 01, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
    Determinate said
    yetanotherphil said there *are* real actual threats to rural ways of life which will never be addressed by the Democratic party in its current form. Most of them are greatly exaggerated, but they are real enough to create a genuine concern.



    Which particular threats to rural ways of life are you thinking of?
    And how do you feel Republicans are addressing these threats?




    I never said the Republican party actually helps. Family farms often run on the verge of bankruptcy, especially surrounding inheritance events, because farm property is so tempting to tax and assess at rates more appropriate to dense urban areas (where the revenue potential for similar value on paper would be much higher and the associated debt typically lower). The Republican party doesn't help with this unless they get their way and taxes go down for people who are legitimately well off. Rural Republican *voters*, being the political hostages they are, are left to wallow in their fear and anger.

    AGAIN, I never said that the Republican party solves any of these problems. In fact, they have an obvious vested interest in those problems. But they have a narrative which actually speaks to the real fears of many small farmers, and the Democratic party does not (and quite possibly never will). THAT is what I was saying.
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    Nov 02, 2014 7:02 PM GMT
    yetanotherphil said
    Determinate said
    yetanotherphil said there *are* real actual threats to rural ways of life which will never be addressed by the Democratic party in its current form. Most of them are greatly exaggerated, but they are real enough to create a genuine concern.



    Which particular threats to rural ways of life are you thinking of?
    And how do you feel Republicans are addressing these threats?




    I never said the Republican party actually helps. Family farms often run on the verge of bankruptcy, especially surrounding inheritance events, because farm property is so tempting to tax and assess at rates more appropriate to dense urban areas (where the revenue potential for similar value on paper would be much higher and the associated debt typically lower). The Republican party doesn't help with this unless they get their way and taxes go down for people who are legitimately well off. Rural Republican *voters*, being the political hostages they are, are left to wallow in their fear and anger.

    AGAIN, I never said that the Republican party solves any of these problems. In fact, they have an obvious vested interest in those problems. But they have a narrative which actually speaks to the real fears of many small farmers, and the Democratic party does not (and quite possibly never will). THAT is what I was saying.
    Also lets not forget the small rural towns that are now entrenched in poverty because of the loss of so many family owned farms. The big corporations came in and bought out many family farms which resulted in heavy job losses for the local economy. Many small rural towns are resembling most of our older northern cities, boarded up, rundown, and in steady decline. Both the republicans and the democrats don't seem to care about the serious problems faced by small towns and rural areas.
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    Nov 03, 2014 6:09 AM GMT
    eastern Colorado is running out of water, seems to be effecting both farms & cities. A political jesus is not going to save them
  • Destinharbor

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    Nov 03, 2014 5:14 PM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    Destinharbor saidHate has always been a unifying force. Republican leadership (and mouthpieces) just uses it as a tool for fundraising and to get out the vote. Most Republicans I know are pretty nice people one-on-one but they still respond to the them vs us mentality when it comes to politics. They just see it as in their best interest which is selfish but they see it as self reliant.


    Indeed, hate has always been a unifying force, and Charlie-the-tax-cheat Rangel has used it for years:


    Veteran Rep. Charlie Rangel (D-N.Y.) had some harsh words for the Republican Party during a Thursday campaign rally for New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D).

    As he has done repeatedly before, Rangel compared some members of the GOP to confederates from the Civil War era. But at the Thursday evening event, he added that they "believe that slavery isn't over."

    "We have to win. We have to be able to send a national message with Andrew Cuomo. And the thing is: Everything we believe in — everything we believe in — they hate. They don't disagree — they hate! They think if you didn't come from Europe 30 years ago, you didn't even make it. Some of them believe that slavery isn't over and they and think they won the Civil War!" Rangel shouted.

    In contrast, Rangel said the Democratic Party is doing "God's work" on issues important to the American people.

    "And so what we have to do is send a collective voice," he said of the upcoming midterm elections. "Everything we're doing is God's work: education, healthcare, affordable housing, [protecting against] discrimination, paying people the minimum wage."


    http://www.businessinsider.com/charlie-rangel-some-republicans-believe-that-slavery-isnt-over-2014-10

    Rangel is playing to his somewhat paranoid constituency. But remember, even paranoids have enemies. And it is the Republican Party and platform that is singling out enemies and creating hysteria whenever they can. Individual Dems may do that but the party doesn't. Going back to Nixon, Republicans have used fear to win.
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    Nov 03, 2014 8:18 PM GMT
    Republicans are angry yet the most violent hellholes in the country are Democrat-voting cities.

    I guess criticizing Chairman Obama is a far worse display of anger than killing someone. I'd love to know how the thought process of these perverted leftists works. icon_confused.gif

    Jail survey: 7 in 10 felons register as Democrats
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    Nov 03, 2014 9:58 PM GMT
    I've seen Democrats (liberals) get their panties is a wad just as often as Republicans (conservatives), especially on this site.

    This thread is beyond stupid.
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    Nov 03, 2014 10:19 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidI've seen Democrats (liberals) get their panties is a wad just as often as Republicans (conservatives), especially on this site.

    This thread is beyond stupid.

    Ah, another worshipper at the Altar of False Equivalency. Well, it's popular even if it's silly.
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    Nov 03, 2014 10:35 PM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidThe anger is never about what it claims to be about---that's why they keep changing the source of their fury every week or so (IRS, Benghazi!!!, now Ebola).

    What they're angry about is that the United States is fundamentally a changed place and they don't like the changes. It is younger, browner, less religious, and increasingly liberal (at least on social issues) and they feel marginalized. Old modes of behavior are no longer acceptable (sexism, gay-hate, racism) and they're not sure how to behave in the new environment. Many of them resort to yelling "PC" anytime someone calls them out on their behaviors, but what they're really saying is "you're making me uncomfortable". That's part of what's behind anti-marriage people. They feel profoundly uncomfortable and they're genuinely shocked that a majority of Americans no longer share those views.


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    Nov 04, 2014 1:46 AM GMT
    Ah yes, the old Reagan AIDS myth.

    You're pretty lazy or at least very dishonest (not surprising coming from a liberal). I'd love to know how a president who didn't acknowledge the existence of AIDS spent over a billion dollars in AIDS research through HHS alone during his time in office. Reagan more than doubled federal spending on AIDS for every one of the 8 years he was in the White House.

    http://fas.org/spp/civil/crs/96-293.pdf (see page 3)

    The next president in office should spend 10x that amount on researching why leftists are pathological liars. Are you just born this way or is it some sort of virus?
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    Nov 04, 2014 2:13 AM GMT
    AaronH20P saidRepublicans are angry yet the most violent hellholes in the country are Democrat-voting cities.

    I guess criticizing Chairman Obama is a far worse display of anger than killing someone. I'd love to know how the thought process of these perverted leftists works. icon_confused.gif

    Jail survey: 7 in 10 felons register as Democrats
    Detroit, Flint, St Louis, Baltimore those are all violent cities that have been ruined by 50 to 60 years of democratic monopoly rule and that is no bullshit. That is the absolute truth. The democratic party destroyed these four once proud and prosperous cities along with most other older northern cities. That is historical fact.