THE MEANS FOR A DATE: "Providing comfort during political defeat"

  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 05, 2014 4:40 PM GMT
    It certainly wasn't the makings for a good night. The right wing loon Kansas governor unexpectedly re-elected in a very close race and the independent Kansas senate candidate defeated by a "do nothing"...
    so I decided to call it a night and vaguely remember the phone ringing...

    This morning a message from a reasonable republican man I know, left a message that I was a "hot Kansas democrat", and that it "just didn't work out this year and I should consider letting him buy me dinner and provide comfort at this moment of crises"

    Crises? No, I was a little disappointed, but I'm not that upset.. 2016 awaits! As for the date, he's a great guy and so it looks like a dinner date this weekend.

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    Nov 05, 2014 4:47 PM GMT


    Right on, and it sounds like it's going to be a sweet date!

    I have some very good Repub friends as well (just NOT on here). They're hoping their votes will be about their Party doing something positive instead of past obstruction. *fingers crossed*
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    Nov 05, 2014 4:53 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidIt certainly wasn't the makings for a good night. The right wing loon Kansas governor unexpectedly re-elected in a very close race and the independent Kansas senate candidate defeated by a "do nothing"...

    That's an important point. Quite a number of these Republican victories were with very slim numbers, not a voter landslide. Yes, a greater number of them won this cycle, but just squeaking by.

    And I think a lot of it is the result of the "Citizens United" decision, allowing virtually unlimited money into US elections. With slick, round-the-clock media marketing, that Democrats can't match, voters can be deceived.
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    Nov 05, 2014 4:56 PM GMT
    meninlove said

    Right on, and it sounds like it's going to be a sweet date!

    I have some very good Repub friends as well (just NOT on here). They're hoping their votes will be about their Party doing something positive instead of past obstruction. *fingers crossed*

    Nah, it'll be the same as before: repeal Obamacare (ACA), block gays from having marriage and other civil rights, oppressing women and minorities, giveaways to corporations, the usual Republican pattern. Only intensified now.
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    Nov 05, 2014 4:58 PM GMT
    Please. All these gays identifying as bi when there's no such thing as bipartisan. You are, or you aren't.
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    Nov 05, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    meninlove said

    Right on, and it sounds like it's going to be a sweet date!

    I have some very good Repub friends as well (just NOT on here). They're hoping their votes will be about their Party doing something positive instead of past obstruction. *fingers crossed*

    Nah, it'll be the same as before: repeal Obamacare (ACA), block gays from having marriage and other civil rights, oppressing women and minorities, giveaways to corporations, the usual Republican pattern. Only intensified now.


    I take the other tack, Art. They will want to win the next Prez election, so will have to do just the opposite for it to happen.

    Before all they had to do was obstruct, now they will actually have to DO. This should be very interesting.
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    Nov 05, 2014 5:03 PM GMT
    eagermuscle saidPlease. All these gays identifying as bi when there's no such thing as bipartisan. You are, or you aren't.


    Sure there is. Something I notice about US folks is that many have forgotten a few allegorical things about your country, and gov'ts.

    Your symbol is an Eagle. It has two wings, a left and a right. How does the eagle soar? With one wing or two? *winks*
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    Nov 05, 2014 5:16 PM GMT
    Okay; color me bicurious.
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    Nov 05, 2014 10:50 PM GMT
    I've dated Republicans
    But it never ended well
  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 06, 2014 2:13 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare saidI've dated Republicans
    But it never ended well


    I've dated republicans and it has ended ... well with them in a compromised position....hahahaha

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  • Apparition

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    Nov 06, 2014 2:29 AM GMT
    i think this will be the end of the republican party completely. They will have to DO stuff and they wont be able too, and obama will get fed up and the last week will signing statement a ton of stuff they hate.

    the jesus freaks/teaparty looking like whackos on tv every day as they tack on extra crap that will look outrageous, the democrats can just sit back and filibuster every single thing they do with no debate whatsover. The republicans wont have the votes to break it, and they can hardly say "you should compromise" when they did the same thing.

    then they will try to gut seniors benefits, and the democrats should abstain, and that will be the end of the GOP.
    Look for the rise of the "grey party" by the end of the year, made up of the few frustrated central anarchist type republicans.
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    Nov 06, 2014 4:01 AM GMT
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    HndsmKansan saidIt certainly wasn't the makings for a good night. The right wing loon Kansas governor unexpectedly re-elected in a very close race and the independent Kansas senate candidate defeated by a "do nothing"...

    That's an important point. Quite a number of these Republican victories were with very slim numbers, not a voter landslide. Yes, a greater number of them won this cycle, but just squeaking by.

    And I think a lot of it is the result of the "Citizens United" decision, allowing virtually unlimited money into US elections. With slick, round-the-clock media marketing, that Democrats can't match, voters can be deceived.



    This has been discussed before, I wasn't sure what it meant so I had to kook it up and see what effect it had on this midterm icon_confused.gif

    Gerrymandering
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerrymandering

    In the process of setting electoral districts, gerrymandering is a practice that attempts to establish a political advantage for a particular party or group by manipulating district boundaries to create partisan advantaged districts. The resulting district apportionment is known as a gerrymander (/ˈdʒɛriˌmændər/); however, that word can also refer to the process. When used to allege that a given party is gaining disproportionate power, the term gerrymandering has negative connotations

    Gerrymandering is effective because of the wasted vote effect. By packing opposition voters into districts they will already win (increasing excess votes for winners) and by cracking the remainder among districts where they are moved into the minority (increasing votes for eventual losers), the number of wasted votes among the opposition can be maximized. Similarly, with supporters holding narrow margins in the unpacked districts, the number of wasted votes among supporters is minimized.

    While the wasted vote effect is strongest when a party wins by narrow margins across multiple districts, gerrymandering narrow margins can be risky when voters are less predictable. To minimize the risk of demographic or political shifts swinging a district to the opposition, politicians can create more packed districts, leading to more comfortable margins in unpacked ones.
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    Nov 06, 2014 4:12 AM GMT
    Apparition saidi think this will be the end of the republican party completely. They will have to DO stuff and they wont be able too, and obama will get fed up and the last week will signing statement a ton of stuff they hate.

    the jesus freaks/teaparty looking like whackos on tv every day as they tack on extra crap that will look outrageous, the democrats can just sit back and filibuster every single thing they do with no debate whatsover. The republicans wont have the votes to break it, and they can hardly say "you should compromise" when they did the same thing.

    then they will try to gut seniors benefits, and the democrats should abstain, and that will be the end of the GOP.
    Look for the rise of the "grey party" by the end of the year, made up of the few frustrated central anarchist type republicans.



    There is always the religious tea party republican war machine, as they have done in the past, attack on us soil followed by war, brings the country together through fear, fear is how they keep the public in line, fear is how they have won elections icon_rolleyes.gif