How Republicans Conned The American People Into Giving Them Control Of The Senate

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    Nov 05, 2014 9:22 PM GMT
    http://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/05/republicans-conned-american-people-giving-control-senate.html

    It was the last sentence about making Obama a one-term president that got all of the attention, but it was his second sentence that was revealing. Republicans had a plan to take back the government. Step one was to win back the House, which they did in 2010. Step two was to win back the Senate, which they accomplished in 2014. Step three has always been to win back the White House in 2016.

    The genius of the plan was that it was a hostage situation. Republicans took the legislative process hostage and refused to pass anything. Senate Republicans obstruction legislation big and small all with the goal of building frustration and discontent with government. After the American people had become enraged by “broken Washington,” Republicans promised that Washington could be fixed if they were given control of the Senate.

    In 2016, it won’t be red state Democrats, but blue state Republicans who will be on the ballot fighting for their seats. Republicans won’t have Obama to blame anymore. The GOP will be held accountable by a bigger electorate.

    Given these factors, it will surprise no one if the Senate confidence men and women meet their 2016 demise at the hands of their own con.

    What happened last night might look scary, but it's a disaster of our own making. This is what we get when young people sit on their asses instead of voting—old white people decide who will make laws primarily affecting the much younger, the much browner. We don't have to let the out-of-touch paranoia of the elderly dictate the direction of the country, but we have, over and over, and the damage continues to pile up in our system like poison.
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    Nov 05, 2014 10:33 PM GMT
    This pattern was revealed in 2009, when Republicans vowed to lock up Congress to cause voter dissatisfaction and bring them back into power. It worked in 2010, it worked a little more in 2012, and it worked big time in 2014. US voters are not very sophisticated, which Republicans correctly bet on.

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  • LEANDRO_NJ

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    Nov 05, 2014 10:41 PM GMT
    If you all think that the last eight years were bad, and of course lets blame President Obama!? think again, and just wait how quickly things are going to get even worse under the current balance of power! Republicans are not just going to sit around and cooperate, they are going to screw all of us who voted against them in the past eight years! american voters are the dumbest and most uneducated citizens on the planet! and this election proofs it!
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    Nov 05, 2014 10:51 PM GMT
    LEANDRO_NJ saidIf you all think that the last eight years were bad, and of course lets blame President Obama!? think again, and just wait how quickly things are going to get even worse under the current balance of power! Republicans are not just going to sit around and cooperate, they are going to screw all of us who voted against them in the past eight years! american voters are the dumbest and most uneducated citizens on the planet! and this election proves it!

    Agreed. Remember, Republican Congressional leaders are still spending taxpayer money to fight gay civil rights in the courts. They're gonna come after us with a vengeance now, to further reinforce their bigoted voter base of Right Wing extremists.
  • tj85016

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    Nov 05, 2014 11:16 PM GMT
    more like how America got conned thinking Obama could be an effective President - hell the guy doesn't even want to be there.

    if it wasn't for the Federal Reserve, his term in office would be an utter failure
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 06, 2014 1:15 AM GMT
    Also lets just stop believing all the nonsense that the Millennial generation is predominately progressive, liberal, and pro democrat. There are a significantly large number of Millennials who are conservative and tend to support the GOP. Especially younger people from the southern states, they tend to be more conservative and religious and also vote in more elections than their progressive and liberal counterparts in the cities and suburbs up north and on the West Coast.
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    Nov 06, 2014 1:56 AM GMT
    Americans vote like they are cheering for a baseball team. They pay no attention to the issues or what is happening, just which color uniform the players are wearing. In an overwhelming number of states, voters elected Republican candidates who expressly oppose the issues the same voters stand for. Hmmm, single-issue politics are a bitch.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 06, 2014 2:25 AM GMT
    kxd7 saidAmericans vote like they are cheering for a baseball team. They pay no attention to the issues or what is happening, just which color uniform the players are wearing. In an overwhelming number of states, voters elected Republican candidates who expressly oppose the issues the same voters stand for. Hmmm, single-issue politics are a bitch.
    That is the whole damned problem in the US, too many single issue voters who fail to look at the big picture.
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    Nov 06, 2014 3:17 AM GMT
    I am glad this baboon is OUT!

    Harry Reid
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    Nov 06, 2014 4:21 AM GMT
    southbeach1500 said
    2bnaked saidI am glad this baboon is OUT!

    Harry Reid


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    You mean buffoon.
  • musclmed

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    Nov 06, 2014 4:38 AM GMT
    scruffLA saidhttp://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/05/republicans-conned-american-people-giving-control-senate.html

    It was the last sentence about making Obama a one-term president that got all of the attention, but it was his second sentence that was revealing. Republicans had a plan to take back the government. Step one was to win back the House, which they did in 2010. Step two was to win back the Senate, which they accomplished in 2014. Step three has always been to win back the White House in 2016.

    The genius of the plan was that it was a hostage situation. Republicans took the legislative process hostage and refused to pass anything. Senate Republicans obstruction legislation big and small all with the goal of building frustration and discontent with government. After the American people had become enraged by “broken Washington,” Republicans promised that Washington could be fixed if they were given control of the Senate.

    In 2016, it won’t be red state Democrats, but blue state Republicans who will be on the ballot fighting for their seats. Republicans won’t have Obama to blame anymore. The GOP will be held accountable by a bigger electorate.

    Given these factors, it will surprise no one if the Senate confidence men and women meet their 2016 demise at the hands of their own con.

    What happened last night might look scary, but it's a disaster of our own making. This is what we get when young people sit on their asses instead of voting—old white people decide who will make laws primarily affecting the much younger, the much browner. We don't have to let the out-of-touch paranoia of the elderly dictate the direction of the country, but we have, over and over, and the damage continues to pile up in our system like poison.


    You need to look at polls from young people "millennials" a little closer. They are not lock step with the progressive movment as you might thing.

    Our country has a history of divided government. The difference is that in the last 6 years

    Simply not passing your opponents agenda cannot be considered "Obstruction".

    In turn , not negotiating at all in my mind is to be derelict of ones duty as a President.

    Multiple sources chronic Obama as a aloof idealist who has no desire to negotiate with his rivals.

    Last in the Senate the majority controls what bills go for a vote. The House passed over 300 bills, most never went for Senate consideration.

    LBJ, Carter and Clinton could deal, whats different here?

    I suggest reading BoB Woodwards book the Price of Politics.

    Ironically , if it were not for Biden where would we be. He is apparently the only member of the Executive Branch that knows how to make a deal.
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    Nov 06, 2014 5:12 AM GMT
    musclmed said
    scruffLA saidhttp://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/05/republicans-conned-american-people-giving-control-senate.html



    You need to look at polls from young people "millennials" a little closer. They are not lock step with the progressive movment as you might thing.

    Our country has a history of divided government. The difference is that in the last 6 years

    Simply not passing your opponents agenda cannot be considered "Obstruction".

    In turn , not negotiating at all in my mind is to be derelict of ones duty as a President.

    Multiple sources chronic Obama as a aloof idealist who has no desire to negotiate with his rivals.

    Last in the Senate the majority controls what bills go for a vote. The House passed over 300 bills, most never went for Senate consideration.

    LBJ, Carter and Clinton could deal, whats different here?

    I suggest reading BoB Woodwards book the Price of Politics.

    Ironically , if it were not for Biden where would we be. He is apparently the only member of the Executive Branch that knows how to make a deal.



    Idealist? yes, aloof? no, You need to study and do your own personality testing before you start judging others. This test is pretty accurate by the way. I too am an idealist, according to Myers-Briggs, only <16% of the population are this type personality, so we are rare in comparison most are of the do-er or follower. What I found interesting is Oprah Winfrey is also an idealist and I have been following her for years as many others have, John Lennon you can add to. We idealists run in same circles has we have the same personality, are natural born leaders and have high degrees of integrity. Every personality type has there negative side as well. Please give Myers-Briggs a try, for yourself, to see why you think so negative about the idealist personality when there are so few of us to begin with. I do advertise my idealist personality on my resume to make sure I connect with like minded individuals or groups.

    Myers-Briggs Type Indicator
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator

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    Nov 06, 2014 5:26 AM GMT
    scruffLA said
    musclmed said
    scruffLA saidhttp://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/05/republicans-conned-american-people-giving-control-senate.html



    You need to look at polls from young people "millennials" a little closer. They are not lock step with the progressive movment as you might thing.

    Our country has a history of divided government. The difference is that in the last 6 years

    Simply not passing your opponents agenda cannot be considered "Obstruction".

    In turn , not negotiating at all in my mind is to be derelict of ones duty as a President.

    Multiple sources chronic Obama as a aloof idealist who has no desire to negotiate with his rivals.

    Last in the Senate the majority controls what bills go for a vote. The House passed over 300 bills, most never went for Senate consideration.

    LBJ, Carter and Clinton could deal, whats different here?

    I suggest reading BoB Woodwards book the Price of Politics.

    Ironically , if it were not for Biden where would we be. He is apparently the only member of the Executive Branch that knows how to make a deal.



    Idealist? yes, aloof? no, You need to study and do your own personality testing before you start judging others. This test is pretty accurate by the way. I too am an idealist, according to Myers-Briggs, only <16% of the population are this type personality, so we are rare in comparison most are of the do-er or follower. What I found interesting is Oprah Winfrey is also an idealist and I have been following her for years as many others have, John Lennon you can add to. We idealists run in same circles has we have the same personality and are natural born leaders. Every personality type has there negative side as well. Please give Myers-Briggs a try, for yourself, to see why you think so negative about the idealist personality when there are so few of us to begin with. I do advertise my idealist personality on my resume to make sure I connect with like minded individuals or groups.



    Very nice thesis. Too bad he did not run on that ideal.

    He ran on being a healer and one that compromises.

    There is simply no evidence of that in 6 years. However there is evidence of this in just about every President in the last 50 years.

    Can you mention 1 bipartisan thing he has tried or negotiated? Even members of his own party chronicle how he never deals or contacts them.

    As for doing my own psychoanalysis , well that seems to be a response of someone who has very few facts to come back at.

    NY TIMESIn interviews, nearly two dozen Democratic lawmakers and senior congressional aides suggested that Mr. Obama’s approach has left him with few loyalists to effectively manage the issues erupting abroad and at home and could imperil his efforts to leave a legacy in his final stretch in office.


    NY TIMES #2/cite]Asked to characterize his relationship with the president, Mr. Manchin, a centrist Democrat who has often been a bridge builder in the Senate, said: “It’s fairly nonexistent. There’s not much of a relationship.”[/quote]

    [quote][cite]NY Times #3
    Senator Claire McCaskill, the Missouri Democrat who was an early supporter of Mr. Obama’s presidential bid, said that if her fellow Democrats were hoping for Mr. Obama to transform into a Lyndon B. Johnson late in his second term, they should quit waiting.


    [url]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/19/us/aloof-obama-is-frustrating-his-own-party.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMedia&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1&referrer=[/url]

    One does not even have to debate the pros or cons of a progressive agenda here. Your champion , our President feels we should just follow along because of his idealism and gravitas.

    So again I say we would have been all better off, liberal and conservative with someone else, probably just about anyone including yourself.
    How many opportunities were wasted because Obama is too cool for Washington?

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    Nov 06, 2014 5:34 AM GMT
    musclmed said
    scruffLA said
    musclmed said
    scruffLA saidhttp://www.politicususa.com/2014/11/05/republicans-conned-american-people-giving-control-senate.html



    You need to look at polls from young people "millennials" a little closer. They are not lock step with the progressive movment as you might thing.

    Our country has a history of divided government. The difference is that in the last 6 years

    Simply not passing your opponents agenda cannot be considered "Obstruction".

    In turn , not negotiating at all in my mind is to be derelict of ones duty as a President.

    Multiple sources chronic Obama as a aloof idealist who has no desire to negotiate with his rivals.

    Last in the Senate the majority controls what bills go for a vote. The House passed over 300 bills, most never went for Senate consideration.

    LBJ, Carter and Clinton could deal, whats different here?

    I suggest reading BoB Woodwards book the Price of Politics.

    Ironically , if it were not for Biden where would we be. He is apparently the only member of the Executive Branch that knows how to make a deal.



    Idealist? yes, aloof? no, You need to study and do your own personality testing before you start judging others. This test is pretty accurate by the way. I too am an idealist, according to Myers-Briggs, only <16% of the population are this type personality, so we are rare in comparison most are of the do-er or follower. What I found interesting is Oprah Winfrey is also an idealist and I have been following her for years as many others have, John Lennon you can add to. We idealists run in same circles has we have the same personality and are natural born leaders. Every personality type has there negative side as well. Please give Myers-Briggs a try, for yourself, to see why you think so negative about the idealist personality when there are so few of us to begin with. I do advertise my idealist personality on my resume to make sure I connect with like minded individuals or groups.



    Very nice thesis. Too bad he did not run on that ideal.

    He ran on being a healer and one that compromises.

    There is simply no evidence of that in 6 years. However there is evidence of this in just about every President in the last 50 years.

    Can you mention 1 bipartisan thing he has tried or negotiated? Even members of his own party chronicle how he never deals or contacts them.

    As for doing my own psychoanalysis , well that seems to be a response of someone who has very few facts to come back at.

    NY TIMESIn interviews, nearly two dozen Democratic lawmakers and senior congressional aides suggested that Mr. Obama’s approach has left him with few loyalists to effectively manage the issues erupting abroad and at home and could imperil his efforts to leave a legacy in his final stretch in office.


    [url]http://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/08/19/us/aloof-obama-is-frustrating-his-own-party.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSumSmallMedia&module=first-column-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=1&referrer=
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  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 07, 2014 2:02 AM GMT

    Well I am sure that the democrats are drawing up plans on how to con the American people to vote for the hapless Hillary ho for President in 2016. Dishonesty and con artists exist on both sides of the aisle.
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    Nov 07, 2014 4:33 AM GMT
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    Well I am sure that the democrats are drawing up plans on how to con the American people to vote for the hapless Hillary ho for President in 2016. Dishonesty and con artists exist on both sides of the aisle.


    YOU B@STARD that LADY stood by her husband after his affair, and you have the AUDACITY TO CALL HER A HO! You're an ugly old smelly C*NT.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 07, 2014 11:22 AM GMT
    AnOriginal said
    roadbikeRob said
    Well I am sure that the democrats are drawing up plans on how to con the American people to vote for the hapless Hillary ho for President in 2016. Dishonesty and con artists exist on both sides of the aisle.


    YOU B@STARD that LADY stood by her husband after his affair, and you have the AUDACITY TO CALL HER A HO! You're an ugly old smelly C*NT.
    She only stood by him because she had a bigger prize in her eyes, succeeding him as President of the US. That plan was completely foiled in 2008 and hopefully it will be foiled again in 2016 because this bitch is only out for her own self aggrandizement. Plus there are allegations that she had her own little affairs on the side while he was governor of Arkansas. She is a power hungry harpy out just to make a big name for herself. You are a brain dead, moronic idiot. Go fuck yourselficon_mad.gif
  • LEANDRO_NJ

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    Nov 09, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    I hate discussing politics, I hate politics, period! unfortunately sometimes you have to back up the party that have done more to protect my rights as a gay man! Republicans have done ZERO, and the few that do, I question their agenda!? which I highly suspect is purely done out of political and societal pressures!

    I don't understand what a politician's personal life have to do with standing up for my gay rights? I give a damn about what anyone does behind close doors, so as long as they respect what I do behind mine! Personally this ongoing argument about exposing a politician's personal life is done in very poor taste, from both sides of the opposition.

    It is true there are a dozen more important issues to worry about! so please rather then resorting to personal attacks, why don't we bring into this discussion the social issues that affect our daily lives, and the rights to be who we are as individuals, not as an interest group!

    This kind of heated and senseless arguments here rings close to home! my brother was a Republican up until 2008, and although we never got into a heated argument, we both did have but much respect for each others differences in political views! he turned Democrat, not in support of its politics, but because in support of his gay brother (me), and also because he realized the "Republican Party" as a group gives a damn about the minorities in our society. It is not my saying so, but the Republican party have a track history of being racist, prejudice, inducing hate crimes, and being sexist towards anyone different from the norm.

    I understand there are Republicans who support gay rights, and even in support of a more humane approach towards the Undocumented people in our country!? But what good does it do to show support and compassion to these issues by just a few, if as a group there is clearly not enough support for those same social issues, as some within the party claims to support!?

    Belonging to a political party and knowing it does not agree with social issues that you are a part of, and yet you defend and vote for it? is absurd to say the least. Why would anyone back up or vote for a political party that limits your rights, and hates you as the person you've become, is beyond me!! and that goes same for any political party, as it isn't Republican exclusive! I've known a few Democrats that are in favor of Social issues, such as of gays, but only because they want my vote. Well even if that is the case is still better then having my rights publicly denied, and being publicly humiliated for being gay!