Why straight women and bisexual men may not really exist

  • metta

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    Nov 10, 2014 12:18 AM GMT
    Why straight women and bisexual men may not really exist

    GSN speaks to Dr Qazi Rahman, the controversial scientist who says he has proof that all women are bisexual but men are either gay or straight

    - See more at: http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/why-straight-women-and-bisexual-men-may-not-really-exist250912
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    Nov 10, 2014 12:48 AM GMT
    Having personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.
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    Nov 10, 2014 9:12 AM GMT
    What is this? Some straight man's fantasy land?
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    Nov 10, 2014 1:11 PM GMT
    I want to point out that this article is over two years old.

    All the comments below were made recently, so I don't know if this was shared online on a social network or something, which could be why it's getting attention again.

    It's also poorly written and is irresponsibly titled. The study the doctor cites has been largely discredited, and the findings are contradictory to other studies that used a similar approach. Maybe you could check the date next time and look to see what else has come out before you post something like this metta8?
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    Nov 10, 2014 1:29 PM GMT
    sf_swimmer saidHaving personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.
    +1
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    Nov 10, 2014 1:36 PM GMT
    go_dreaming said... Maybe you could check the date next time and look to see what else has come out before you post something like this metta8?


    I think metta8 gets some sort of monetary remuneration for directing people to all the links he posts here.
  • stratavos

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    Nov 10, 2014 5:43 PM GMT
    sf_swimmer saidHaving personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.


    I agree with this man's sentiments.
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    Nov 11, 2014 2:47 AM GMT
    sf_swimmer saidHaving personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.


    Personal experiences are irrelevant. That doesn't prove anything, so...
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    Nov 11, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
    kevex saidBisexuality is a joke.
    That's why the word "pansexual" has gained more progress. It implies that people can be attracted to a particular body shape without having gender references attached.

    As "gay" as I seem to be, there's actually a local female I have a crush on, simply because her body is shaped the way that attracts me. I can count the number of times that's happened in my life on one hand and have enough fingers left over to masturbate.
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    Nov 11, 2014 2:55 AM GMT
    kevex said
    sf_swimmer saidHaving personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.


    Personal experiences are irrelevant. That doesn't prove anything, so...
    Statistics are based on personal experiences. Your argument is invalid.
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    Nov 11, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
    kevex said
    sf_swimmer saidHaving personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.


    Personal experiences are irrelevant. That doesn't prove anything, so...


    Really??? Care to elaborate and share your vast knowledge of sexuality??
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    Nov 11, 2014 3:09 AM GMT
    Another funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.
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    Nov 11, 2014 3:13 AM GMT
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    kevex said
    sf_swimmer saidHaving personally had sexual responses with women and men, I believe he's wrong.


    Personal experiences are irrelevant. That doesn't prove anything, so...
    Statistics are based on personal experiences. Your argument is invalid.


    There isn't a scientific consensus. Also, bisexuality has never been observed in non-human animals unlike homosexuality. (btw, bisexual tendencies does not mean they are bisexual)
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    Nov 11, 2014 1:05 PM GMT
    kevex saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    It seems the definition is clear: being attracted to more than one gender. But you're saying you don't know the cause? So you write it off because you want to see evidence?

    You know that they haven't proven the cause for being gay yet, right? Every study that has been done has concluded with a theory, not a definitive answer. But thanks to Lady Gaga, "born this way" has become a popular saying among LGBT circles, so without having the research to back it up, people took it and ran with it. So you could argue the same thing about being gay, that it's not a real thing or is a choice made by individuals.

    Also, bisexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom. Many animals that have been observed engaging in same-sex activity also engage in intercourse with the other sex. It's a rare case to see an animal that refuses to engage with the opposite sex, but does happen, like with those gay penguins in SF.
  • troubledyouth

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    Nov 11, 2014 7:49 PM GMT
    Is bi-bashing still a thing?

    It's always interesting to have someone explain to me that I don't really exist.

    Yeah, that never gets old.
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    Nov 11, 2014 9:39 PM GMT
    go_dreaming said
    kevex saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    It seems the definition is clear: being attracted to more than one gender. But you're saying you don't know the cause? So you write it off because you want to see evidence?

    You know that they haven't proven the cause for being gay yet, right? Every study that has been done has concluded with a theory, not a definitive answer. But thanks to Lady Gaga, "born this way" has become a popular saying among LGBT circles, so without having the research to back it up, people took it and ran with it. So you could argue the same thing about being gay, that it's not a real thing or is a choice made by individuals.

    Also, bisexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom. Many animals that have been observed engaging in same-sex activity also engage in intercourse with the other sex. It's a rare case to see an animal that refuses to engage with the opposite sex, but does happen, like with those gay penguins in SF.


    Actually one of the gay penguins since formed a relationship with a female. Also, their adoptive daughter had a relationship with a female penguin herself.
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    Nov 11, 2014 10:38 PM GMT
    go_dreaming said
    kevex saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    It seems the definition is clear: being attracted to more than one gender. But you're saying you don't know the cause? So you write it off because you want to see evidence?

    You know that they haven't proven the cause for being gay yet, right? Every study that has been done has concluded with a theory, not a definitive answer. But thanks to Lady Gaga, "born this way" has become a popular saying among LGBT circles, so without having the research to back it up, people took it and ran with it. So you could argue the same thing about being gay, that it's not a real thing or is a choice made by individuals.

    Also, bisexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom. Many animals that have been observed engaging in same-sex activity also engage in intercourse with the other sex. It's a rare case to see an animal that refuses to engage with the opposite sex, but does happen, like with those gay penguins in SF.



    Epigenetics is the most accepted theory of what causes sexual orientation. It's not hereditary but it is genetic. Also, I said bisexual tendencies not homosexuality in animals. All animals (including humans) are different. Homosexual behavior in other animals doesn't really prove anything. Now people come with an even more ridiculous concept: Pansexuality. Now what? Omnisexuality? Multisexuality? Metasexuality? ugh Also, using confirmation bias to prove bisexuality exist is rather dumb. I will still remain agnostic to the idea of bisexuality.
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    Nov 12, 2014 2:16 AM GMT
    Ohno said
    go_dreaming said
    kevex saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    It seems the definition is clear: being attracted to more than one gender. But you're saying you don't know the cause? So you write it off because you want to see evidence?

    You know that they haven't proven the cause for being gay yet, right? Every study that has been done has concluded with a theory, not a definitive answer. But thanks to Lady Gaga, "born this way" has become a popular saying among LGBT circles, so without having the research to back it up, people took it and ran with it. So you could argue the same thing about being gay, that it's not a real thing or is a choice made by individuals.

    Also, bisexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom. Many animals that have been observed engaging in same-sex activity also engage in intercourse with the other sex. It's a rare case to see an animal that refuses to engage with the opposite sex, but does happen, like with those gay penguins in SF.


    Actually one of the gay penguins since formed a relationship with a female. Also, their adoptive daughter had a relationship with a female penguin herself.

    Drama!
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    Nov 12, 2014 2:20 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    Ohno said
    go_dreaming said
    kevex saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    It seems the definition is clear: being attracted to more than one gender. But you're saying you don't know the cause? So you write it off because you want to see evidence?

    You know that they haven't proven the cause for being gay yet, right? Every study that has been done has concluded with a theory, not a definitive answer. But thanks to Lady Gaga, "born this way" has become a popular saying among LGBT circles, so without having the research to back it up, people took it and ran with it. So you could argue the same thing about being gay, that it's not a real thing or is a choice made by individuals.

    Also, bisexuality has been observed in the animal kingdom. Many animals that have been observed engaging in same-sex activity also engage in intercourse with the other sex. It's a rare case to see an animal that refuses to engage with the opposite sex, but does happen, like with those gay penguins in SF.


    Actually one of the gay penguins since formed a relationship with a female. Also, their adoptive daughter had a relationship with a female penguin herself.

    Drama!
    When can we get an EXTREMIST LIBERAL HEN like yourself to form a strong relationship with a conservative republican guyicon_question.gificon_biggrin.gif
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    Nov 12, 2014 4:37 AM GMT
    kxd7 saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    You're still too young to grasp life and its mysteries and nuances in their greater fullness. Try to keep an open mind and don't cloud your thinking with defensiveness or rigidity, and you'll have a more intuitive understanding of human beings as you mature.
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    Nov 12, 2014 4:40 AM GMT
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    kxd7 saidAnother funny thing is, bisexuals can't even define what bisexuality is. All these supposed bisexuals give different versions: You discover it, you choose it, you are born with it, everyone is innately bisexual, monosexual people can become bisexual, you can be emotionally attracted to both genders, etc. Then what the fuck is it? Also, being gay and having sex with a woman and cumming inside of her or a drunk straight dude getting a blowjob from a guy =/= Bisexuality. I need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    You're still too young to grasp life and its mysteries and nuances in their greater fullness. Try to keep an open mind and don't cloud your thinking with defensiveness or rigidity, and you'll have a more intuitive understanding of human beings as you mature.


    Nah, I've seen your comments before. You're one of those secretly straight trolls that bashes gays. Nice try though, with the whole "sexuality is fluid" "you're closed minded for not liking pussy" bullshit.
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    Nov 12, 2014 5:17 AM GMT
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    Epigenetics is the most accepted theory of what causes sexual orientation. It's not hereditary but it is genetic. Also, I said bisexual tendencies not homosexuality in animals.


    Again, it's a theory, not proof. In five years there could be another widely accepted theory that has nothing to do with epigenetics, or that the epigenetics theory is a small part of a larger system of changes in the body that cause someone to be born gay. The point is you can argue that anything doesn't exist because there is no proof, which is what you said here:

    kxd7 saidI need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    This is exactly the same thing as someone else telling you that they don't believe you're gay because there is no "proof" of how someone can actually be gay. Except you know that people can be, because you are. You have the lived experience of being gay. But that's also the only thing you have to offer to someone who says they don't believe you.

    So why then would it unacceptable for you to take someone's lived experience of having been attracted to, in relationships with and sexually aroused by more than one sex? What could that person possibly gain from trying to convince you of something other than the truth? Why does it even matter to you how someone defines their sexuality? So what if they call themselves pansexual or omnisexual?
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    Nov 12, 2014 5:30 AM GMT
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    kxd7 said
    Epigenetics is the most accepted theory of what causes sexual orientation. It's not hereditary but it is genetic. Also, I said bisexual tendencies not homosexuality in animals.


    Again, it's a theory, not proof. In five years there could be another widely accepted theory that has nothing to do with epigenetics, or that the epigenetics theory is a small part of a larger system of changes in the body that cause someone to be born gay. The point is you can argue that anything doesn't exist because there is no proof, which is what you said here:

    kxd7 saidI need evidence, not personal experiences or vague pseudo-scientific articles.


    This is exactly the same thing as someone else telling you that they don't believe you're gay because there is no "proof" of how someone can actually be gay. Except you know that people can be, because you are. You have the lived experience of being gay. But that's also the only thing you have to offer to someone who says they don't believe you.

    So why then would it unacceptable for you to take someone's lived experience of having been attracted to, in relationships with and sexually aroused by more than one sex? What could that person possibly gain from trying to convince you of something other than the truth? Why does it even matter to you how someone defines their sexuality? So what if they call themselves pansexual or omnisexual?



    See, that's the problem with "bisexuals" and why most people never take them seriously. They're very preachy. They're worse than vegans and crossfitters combined. Like really, nobody cares how complex your sexuality is. Take that shit to tumblr. NO need to scream it Lady Gaga style. No1curr. Also, unfortunately, people are allowed to believe whatever they want. In my case, I'm just skeptical not a non-believer.
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    Nov 12, 2014 2:40 PM GMT
    Your right, you can believe whatever you want. But it seems like a waste of energy to be actively against something, rather than accepting it as a possibility.

    Also, for someone who frequently calls out certain users for being trolls, you have quite a few troll-y behaviours of your own. Rather than answer my question, you deflect it and say I'm being too preachy. You then throw vegans and crossfiters in, as if they aren't entitled to eat and exercise the way they want. It sounds like your more interested in baiting than actually having a discussion.

    It also sounds like you're really insecure. Need a hug? icon_lol.gif
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    Nov 12, 2014 3:00 PM GMT
    go_dreaming saidYour right, you can believe whatever you want. But it seems like a waste of energy to be actively against something, rather than accepting it as a possibility.

    Also, for someone who frequently calls out certain users for being trolls, you have quite a few troll-y behaviours of your own. Rather than answer my question, you deflect it and say I'm being too preachy. You then throw vegans and crossfiters in, as if they aren't entitled to eat and exercise the way they want. It sounds like your more interested in baiting than actually having a discussion.

    It also sounds like you're really insecure. Need a hug? icon_lol.gif



    Having an opinion that doesn't align with yours is not trolling. But hey since you're unable to convince me, you just call me a troll. Also, insecure? Pffft lol I'm not the one that's confused about my sexuality. Good day. icon_wink.gif