Shimano vs Avid -- Hydraulic Brakes

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    Nov 11, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    Hayes are out of the game. I have a set of those that totally suck (Dyno Sport).

    However...I recently purchased a bike with Avid brakes (in my profile pic). They really do work well. They're very "grippy" and stop on a dime. However, the "pro" bleed kit was like $60+ online. And I needed to buy that because the bike was from the UK, so the front and rear brake levers were reversed (back brake lever was on the left side).

    Then I found Shimano Deore hydro brakes online for $93...also from the UK, but I already have a pro bleed kit for Shimano, so swapping lines was a non-issue. It took less than an hour to swap them out, clip the lines to my desired length, quick-bleed them to pop out the bubbles, and be on the road.

    My personal opinion: Avid makes good stuff but they're too much of a pain in the ass to work on. Shimano makes good stuff and it's easy to work on. Hayes can kiss my bicycle-seat-chaffed ass.
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    Nov 11, 2014 2:41 PM GMT
    paulflexes saidHayes are out of the game. I have a set of those that totally suck (Dyno Sport).

    However...I recently purchased a bike with Avid brakes (in my profile pic). They really do work well. They're very "grippy" and stop on a dime. However, the "pro" bleed kit was like $60+ online. And I needed to buy that because the bike was from the UK, so the front and rear brake levers were reversed (back brake lever was on the left side).

    Then I found Shimano Deore hydro brakes online for $93...also from the UK, but I already have a pro bleed kit for Shimano, so swapping lines was a non-issue. It took less than an hour to swap them out, clip the lines to my desired length, quick-bleed them to pop out the bubbles, and be on the road.

    My personal opinion: Avid makes good stuff but they're too much of a pain in the ass to work on. Shimano makes good stuff and it's easy to work on. Hayes can kiss my bicycle-seat-chaffed ass.

    Which hydraulics did I see on your bike when you pedaled from Hollywood, FL to Wilton Manors? How do the Deore perform compared to the Avid?

    BTW, I PREFER my front brake to be the right hand lever, because that's how all modern motorcycles and scooters are. It's less intuitive for me when the front brake is on the left. (The rear brake is usually a right foot pedal on motorcycles, while some scooters with CVT and no clutch use a left hand lever like bicycles)
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    Nov 11, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
    Art_Deco said
    paulflexes saidHayes are out of the game. I have a set of those that totally suck (Dyno Sport).

    However...I recently purchased a bike with Avid brakes (in my profile pic). They really do work well. They're very "grippy" and stop on a dime. However, the "pro" bleed kit was like $60+ online. And I needed to buy that because the bike was from the UK, so the front and rear brake levers were reversed (back brake lever was on the left side).

    Then I found Shimano Deore hydro brakes online for $93...also from the UK, but I already have a pro bleed kit for Shimano, so swapping lines was a non-issue. It took less than an hour to swap them out, clip the lines to my desired length, quick-bleed them to pop out the bubbles, and be on the road.

    My personal opinion: Avid makes good stuff but they're too much of a pain in the ass to work on. Shimano makes good stuff and it's easy to work on. Hayes can kiss my bicycle-seat-chaffed ass.

    Which hydraulics did I see on your bike when you pedaled from Hollywood, FL to Wilton Manors? How do the Deore perform compared to the Avid?

    BTW, I PREFER my front brake to be the right hand lever, because that's how all modern motorcycles and scooters are. It's less intuitive for me when the front brake is on the left. (The rear brake is usually a right foot pedal on motorcycles, while some scooters with CVT and no clutch use a left hand lever like bicycles)
    Those were Shimano SLX...same as Deore, but slightly lighter material. Both Shimano and Avid perform very well, but Shimano is easier to bleed; and Shimano uses a one-finger lever (very short) instead of the longer two-finger lever. That makes it much easier to tap/modulate the brakes at high speed while maintaining better control.

    As for the placement for front/rear levers, that's really more of a personal choice since all the other bikes I've had were right-rear left-front. It's kinda dangerous to accidentally use the wrong brake when flying downhill into a turn at high speed.