Michael Brown's parents address United Nations

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    Nov 11, 2014 11:05 PM GMT

    You got to be kidding me, the U.N.? Well, the U.N. is also concerned with the water shut offs in Detroit, since when has the United Nations become so concerned with US-local city specific issues? Is the Martin family invited too? If the U.N. really cared, why not do something to curb the gun violence, murder rate and car jacking's in the entire US instead of picking one fire breathing story? icon_rolleyes.gif

    Im sorry, are these people worthy of a U.N. audience?

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/11/us/ferguson-brown-parents-u-n-/index.html
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 12, 2014 1:31 AM GMT

    Well since Detroit's financial woes followed by bankruptcy and recently exit from bankruptcy have made international news, both the emergency financial manager and the mayor should be granted an opportunity to speak at the UN regarding Detroit's current situation and what is planned ahead for that city.
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    Nov 12, 2014 1:40 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Well since Detroit's financial woes followed by bankruptcy and recently exit from bankruptcy have made international news, both the emergency financial manager and the mayor should be granted an opportunity to speak at the UN regarding Detroit's current situation and what is planned ahead for that city.

    Why? It's not the international community's business
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    Nov 12, 2014 1:50 AM GMT
    Sharkspeare said
    roadbikeRob said
    Well since Detroit's financial woes followed by bankruptcy and recently exit from bankruptcy have made international news, both the emergency financial manager and the mayor should be granted an opportunity to speak at the UN regarding Detroit's current situation and what is planned ahead for that city.

    Why? It's not the international community's business
    Neither is the situation in Ferguson, Missouri.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 12, 2014 2:07 AM GMT
    Isn't the UN supposed to get involved when a minority group within a country is being suppressed and attacked by militarized police? They'd be present in any other country where human rights violations were taking place.
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    Nov 12, 2014 2:53 AM GMT
    HottJoe saidIsn't the UN supposed to get involved when a minority group within a country is being suppressed and attacked by militarized police? They'd be present in any other country where human rights violations were taking place.
    Well only if a group of people are being wrongfully oppressed, not a teenaged thief being shot by police. The situation in Ferguson, Missouri is an internal affair and does not concern the UN especially when it has very serious humanitarian situations in places like Uganda, Syria, Russia, and North Korea.
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    Nov 12, 2014 7:23 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    HottJoe saidIsn't the UN supposed to get involved when a minority group within a country is being suppressed and attacked by militarized police? They'd be present in any other country where human rights violations were taking place.
    Well only if a group of people are being wrongfully oppressed, not a teenaged thief being shot by police. The situation in Ferguson, Missouri is an internal affair and does not concern the UN especially when it has very serious humanitarian situations in places like Uganda, Syria, Russia, and North Korea.



    We, the gay community, have been oppressed by the religious right wing nuts in this country, like forever. Why then are 'we' not, or have not been invited to present our hate crime statistics and killings to the United Nations counsel to once and for all stop the brutal killings, attacks, hatred and discrimination on our people?

    I am sure being 'friends' with the US Attorney General office got these people their appointment with world leaders. But do world leaders really care what happened in local small town USA? Are the Browns and Martins speaking for our entire country including LGBT hatred or are these people only interested in their own community?

    Please, someone get our LGBT leaders an appointment with the UN, we had enough workplace discrimination icon_mad.gif
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 12, 2014 3:46 PM GMT
    scruffLA said
    roadbikeRob said
    HottJoe saidIsn't the UN supposed to get involved when a minority group within a country is being suppressed and attacked by militarized police? They'd be present in any other country where human rights violations were taking place.
    Well only if a group of people are being wrongfully oppressed, not a teenaged thief being shot by police. The situation in Ferguson, Missouri is an internal affair and does not concern the UN especially when it has very serious humanitarian situations in places like Uganda, Syria, Russia, and North Korea.



    We, the gay community, have been oppressed by the religious right wing nuts in this country, like forever. Why then are 'we' not, or have not been invited to present our hate crime statistics and killings to the United Nations counsel to once and for all stop the brutal killings, attacks, hatred and discrimination on our people?

    I am sure being 'friends' with the US Attorney General office got these people their appointment with world leaders. But do world leaders really care what happened in local small town USA? Are the Browns and Martins speaking for our entire country including LGBT hatred or are these people only interested in their own community?

    Please, someone get our LGBT leaders an appointment with the UN, we had enough workplace discrimination icon_mad.gif

    What's going in Ferguson is more reminiscent of the Stonewall uprising in 1969 than anything going on in the gay community in the U.S. today.

    It's not like the cops throw tear gas at a gay pride parade.icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 12, 2014 4:07 PM GMT
    No, what happened in Ferguson - and what might well recur if the grand jury returns no bill of indictment - is more reminiscent of the riots of the '60s, in which the black underclass senselessly destroyed large swaths of America's major cities, and after which the authorities foolishly appeased their trumped up demands, with resounding damage to cities, educational institutions, and society overall. The UN has no jurisdiction here and revealed itself as foolish for even taking the time to hear the gripes of this thug's survivors.
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    Nov 12, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidNo, what happened in Ferguson - and what might well recur if the grand jury returns no bill of indictment - is more reminiscent of the riots of the '60s, in which the black underclass senselessly destroyed large swaths of America's major cities, and after which the authorities foolishly appeased their trumped up demands, with resounding damage to cities, educational institutions, and society overall. The UN has no jurisdiction here and revealed itself as foolish for even taking the time to hear the gripes of this thug's survivors.

    Racial profiling is unconstitutional. Nothing is sacred in a country that uses tyranny against its own citizens.
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    Nov 12, 2014 4:45 PM GMT
    It's just sad that gay men who owe their rights to people who once stood up to the police have no respect for other minorities that are currently persecuted by the same police. The hypocrisy is sickening.
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    Nov 12, 2014 7:15 PM GMT
    Let the UN audience decide who they listen to. When one wants them to listen, one makes the effort.
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    Nov 12, 2014 8:21 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidIt's just sad that gay men who owe their rights to people who once stood up to the police have no respect for other minorities that are currently persecuted by the same police. The hypocrisy is sickening.


    I fully agree, but unfortunately, that sort of thing is not uncommon.

    The Pilgrims migrated to colonial North American to escape religious persecution. It's not that they were opposed to persecution; it's just that they did not want to be the ones who were persecuted. So, at the earliest opportunity, they persecuted the Native Americans who had helped them survive the first winter.

    In only slightly earlier times, black Americans faced serious persecution. Of course it's not entirely over, but it's not nearly so bad as it once was. One would assume that because they know what it is like to face persecution, black Americans would work for equality for everyone, yet many blacks oppose equality for gay men and women.

    So we should not be surprised that some gay men and women fail to stand up for the rights of others. Of course, people who will not stand up for the rights of others have no right to complain when no one will stand up for them.

    In the case at hand, our knowledge of what actually happened is incomplete. From news reports, it certainly appears to be a case of serious police misconduct. It definitely should be carefully investigated instead of being subjected to the usual coverup.
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    Nov 12, 2014 11:43 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidIt's just sad that gay men who owe their rights to people who once stood up to the police have no respect for other minorities that are currently persecuted by the same police. The hypocrisy is sickening.


    No, what's "sickening" is your ignoring the facts. Gays by no means "owe" their rights to anyone but ourselves and those of us who've worked for them in courts and legislatures over the years. Exactly what have YOU done in that regard??? And your premise of police-persecuted minorities is also a false one. You must've bought a Michael Brown t-shirt sized too small.
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    Nov 13, 2014 1:06 AM GMT
    HottJoe said
    MGINSD saidNo, what happened in Ferguson - and what might well recur if the grand jury returns no bill of indictment - is more reminiscent of the riots of the '60s, in which the black underclass senselessly destroyed large swaths of America's major cities, and after which the authorities foolishly appeased their trumped up demands, with resounding damage to cities, educational institutions, and society overall. The UN has no jurisdiction here and revealed itself as foolish for even taking the time to hear the gripes of this thug's survivors.

    Racial profiling is unconstitutional. Nothing is sacred in a country that uses tyranny against its own citizens.
    What racial profilingicon_question.gif There was no racial profiling. The cops just caught a young thug who wanted to rob a corner store. Granted the police overreacted but there was no racial profiling. You sound absolutely ridiculous every time you open your yap and start playing the race card. You are definitely too liberal for your own good. Grow up and get out of your ultra liberal fantasyland and come back into the real world.
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    Nov 13, 2014 10:25 AM GMT
    The UN is as useless and as worthless as the paper it's charter is written on.
  • HottJoe

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    Nov 13, 2014 3:49 PM GMT
    White men denying that racial profiling exists are like straight men denying that homophobia exists.
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    Nov 13, 2014 3:53 PM GMT
    HottJoe saidWhite men denying that racial profiling exists are like straight men denying that homophobia exists.


    Who [the hell] are you to speak for white men, or anyone other than your own misperceiving self? Lots of guilt going on there, HJ, despite the swagger inherent in your handle.
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    Nov 13, 2014 3:55 PM GMT
    ^This thread shows how ignorant "the greatest generation?" of white republicans are when it comes to the reality of racial inequality in the U.S.icon_idea.gif
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    Nov 13, 2014 7:19 PM GMT
    HottJoe said^This thread shows how ignorant "the greatest generation?" of white republicans are when it comes to the reality of racial inequality in the U.S.icon_idea.gif


    You're as wrong on the facts as you are in interpreting them. If by "the greatest generation" you mean Tom Brokaw's generation that fought and won WWII, simple reference to my age would have set you right, if not straight, on my status as a baby boomer. As for the "reality of racial inequality in the U.S.," it's been perpetuated more by the Democrats' permissive, appeasement-based safety net of social programs that has become twisted into a frayed hammock about to fall apart, than even by the black underclass's stubborn refusal to take advantage of the opportunities offered by it other than for short-lived, materialistic gratification that has left their families in shambles. Check your obsessive, guilt-based need to deny your own heritage and work on the obvious anger issues that drive you to it. Or, as the left likes to say, "get help, now."
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    Nov 13, 2014 7:39 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    HottJoe said^This thread shows how ignorant "the greatest generation?" of white republicans are when it comes to the reality of racial inequality in the U.S.icon_idea.gif


    You're as wrong on the facts as you are in interpreting them. If by "the greatest generation" you mean Tom Brokaw's generation that fought and won WWII, simple reference to my age would have set you right, if not straight, on my status as a baby boomer. As for the "reality of racial inequality in the U.S.," it's been perpetuated more by the Democrats' permissive, appeasement-based safety net of social programs that has become twisted into a frayed hammock about to fall apart, than even by the black underclass's stubborn refusal to take advantage of the opportunities offered by it other than for short-lived, materialistic gratification that has left their families in shambles. Check your obsessive, guilt-based need to deny your own heritage and work on the obvious anger issues that drive you to it. Or, as the left likes to say, "get help, now."

    You sound like Rush Limbaugh. He's a racist too.
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    Nov 13, 2014 10:21 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    HottJoe saidIt's just sad that gay men who owe their rights to people who once stood up to the police have no respect for other minorities that are currently persecuted by the same police. The hypocrisy is sickening.


    No, what's "sickening" is your ignoring the facts. Gays by no means "owe" their rights to anyone but ourselves and those of us who've worked for them in courts and legislatures over the years. Exactly what have YOU done in that regard??? And your premise of police-persecuted minorities is also a false one. You must've bought a Michael Brown t-shirt sized too small.


    Actually, the Darren Wilson t-shirt (a Gilson) is rather nice. Unfortunately people in der Schweiz have no idea of its meaning, which leads to long explanations, then an "ah."
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    Nov 14, 2014 2:43 AM GMT
    lol the UN, might as well call the Girl Scouts
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    Nov 14, 2014 3:04 AM GMT
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    pazzy said
    MGINSD saidNo, what happened in Ferguson - and what might well recur if the grand jury returns no bill of indictment - is more reminiscent of the riots of the '60s, in which the black underclass senselessly destroyed large swaths of America's major cities, and after which the authorities foolishly appeased their trumped up demands, with resounding damage to cities, educational institutions, and society overall. The UN has no jurisdiction here and revealed itself as foolish for even taking the time to hear the gripes of this thug's survivors.



    well, i know you don't like black people. thank you for telling me where you stand.



    Yep, he stands for ending the generational slavery of black people in America courtesy of the welfare state brought to us by Democrats.




    I had to quote this, it's so assinine in SB reasoning it's a keeper.
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    Pazzy are you agreeing with SouthBeach on the following?

    "Yep, he stands for ending the generational slavery of black people in America courtesy of the welfare state brought to us by Democrats."