Dog Park - The Gay Web Series

  • metta

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    Nov 12, 2014 2:44 AM GMT
    Dog Park - The Gay Web Series

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    http://www.towleroad.com/2014/11/new-gay-web-series-dog-park-proves-that-all-men-are-dogs-video.html


    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdnmndPZj7cZJh_1VIH7bog
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    Nov 12, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
    Why does anything featuring gay men have to be soooo stereotypical?
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    Nov 12, 2014 2:20 PM GMT
    Because we all "get" stereotypes. Even straight roles fit into one stereotype or another. And whether we want to admit it or not we are all stereotypes of sorts. The problem is when the stereotype slips into caracature.
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    Nov 12, 2014 2:34 PM GMT
    UndercoverMan saidBecause we all "get" stereotypes. Even straight roles fit into one stereotype or another. And whether we want to admit it or not we are all stereotypes of sorts. The problem is when the stereotype slips into caracature.



    Well, catering to stereotypes isn't the only problem with this. Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex? And the acting is atrocious! Speaking of stereotypes, aren't gay men supposed to be good actors?
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    Nov 12, 2014 4:05 PM GMT
    Given the already cringe-worthy banter, would it have been funnier if they used the line "I forgot my eyepatch, er, ipad" ?

    Hopefully future episodes will eschew stereotyping for more realistic behaviors.

    Like showing that while they're using the dog run as an excuse to socialize they'll ignore their own dogs attacking another dog, after which they'll lie and blame the other dog's owner. And then have buttsecks with him.
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    Nov 12, 2014 6:27 PM GMT
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    UndercoverMan saidBecause we all "get" stereotypes. Even straight roles fit into one stereotype or another. And whether we want to admit it or not we are all stereotypes of sorts. The problem is when the stereotype slips into caracature.



    Well, catering to stereotypes isn't the only problem with this. Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex? And the acting is atrocious! Speaking of stereotypes, aren't gay men supposed to be good actors?


    "Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex?" Because our sex lives are THE primary thing that separates us from heterosexuals. Everything else is just as dry and mundane day to day living problems as heterosexuals - work, paying bills, insurance, car repairs, zzzzzz.

    And no! Gay men are HORRIBLE "actors," especially the "straight" acting ones.
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    Nov 12, 2014 7:08 PM GMT
    LOL i'm gonna be happy as fuck when there's a gay series that's a high action thriller, crime based, or detective based.
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    Nov 12, 2014 7:55 PM GMT
    Presumably the main character will be deeper, and everyone else will be more stereotypical. That's not a bad thing. If it can work in novels and other movies, it can work here too.

    Stereotypes are never wholly incorrect. They reveal truths about things, however partial. They're useful tools in a movie/novel to get us to caricature certain beliefs and actions.
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    Nov 12, 2014 8:08 PM GMT
    KJSharp saidPresumably the main character will be deeper, and everyone else will be more stereotypical. That's not a bad thing. If it can work in novels and other movies, it can work here too.

    Stereotypes are never wholly incorrect. They reveal truths about things, however partial. They're useful tools in a movie/novel to get us to caricature certain beliefs and actions.


    Good point. I think the only disappointing thing is that someone can look at characters like captain america, nathan drake, james bond, etc and will bodly state "that could never be a gay man" and they will probably be right lol
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    Nov 12, 2014 8:17 PM GMT
    Hmmm, Chris Evans, Daniel Craig... those could never be gay men?

    You sure, bro?
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    Nov 12, 2014 8:54 PM GMT
    bro4bro saidHmmm, Chris Evans, Daniel Craig... those could never be gay men?

    You sure, bro?


    Lol tell me one gay character that resembles james bond on a tv show or movie
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    Nov 13, 2014 2:32 AM GMT
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said
    UndercoverMan saidBecause we all "get" stereotypes. Even straight roles fit into one stereotype or another. And whether we want to admit it or not we are all stereotypes of sorts. The problem is when the stereotype slips into caracature.



    Well, catering to stereotypes isn't the only problem with this. Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex? And the acting is atrocious! Speaking of stereotypes, aren't gay men supposed to be good actors?


    "Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex?" Because our sex lives are THE primary thing that separates us from heterosexuals.



    That's kind of my point. Why must a film about gay men be about what makes us "different?" Why can't there just be a show that features us in the same daily struggles as our straight counterparts?
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    Nov 13, 2014 5:03 AM GMT
    tmac said

    Lol tell me one gay character that resembles james bond on a tv show or movie


    Ummm... Maverick and Iceman in Top Gun?

    Batman and Robin (Clooney and O'Donnell) in Batman and Robin?

    Admittedly the sex was all off camera...
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    Nov 13, 2014 11:59 AM GMT
    bro4bro said
    tmac said

    Lol tell me one gay character that resembles james bond on a tv show or movie


    Ummm... Maverick and Iceman in Top Gun?

    Batman and Robin (Clooney and O'Donnell) in Batman and Robin?

    Admittedly the sex was all off camera...


    I give you credit for trying but we both know those aren't legit answers lol
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    Nov 13, 2014 4:59 PM GMT
    Scruffypup saidWhy does anything featuring gay men have to be soooo stereotypical?


    This. It's infuriating, not to mention insulting.
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    Nov 13, 2014 11:25 PM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    UndercoverMan said
    Scruffypup said
    UndercoverMan saidBecause we all "get" stereotypes. Even straight roles fit into one stereotype or another. And whether we want to admit it or not we are all stereotypes of sorts. The problem is when the stereotype slips into caracature.



    Well, catering to stereotypes isn't the only problem with this. Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex? And the acting is atrocious! Speaking of stereotypes, aren't gay men supposed to be good actors?


    "Why does every problem gay men ever seem to have is about sex?" Because our sex lives are THE primary thing that separates us from heterosexuals.



    That's kind of my point. Why must a film about gay men be about what makes us "different?" Why can't there just be a show that features us in the same daily struggles as our straight counterparts?


    Because even a show about straights' daily struggles is BORING! The only reason Friends and Seinfeld were entertaining was because the characters were caricatures.

    Honestly, I would prefer there were no obviously gay characters in the movies, TV shows, theater, etc. (unless the production is about a historical figure like Oscar Wilde, Quentin Crisp, etc.) because the writers, whether straight or gay, will inevitably resort to stereotypes and caricatures. It's almost a given.
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    Nov 14, 2014 4:20 AM GMT
    OK, so here's some "legit" answers...

    On TV, Spartacus featured some gay gladiators - is that butch enough for ya? Yeah they were relatively minor characters, but they were not defined by their sexuality. It was more like, "Oh and by the way, these two alpha bull studs are fucking each other..."

    If you need a non-stereotypical gay lead character in a major motion picture, the best example that comes to mind is Val Kilmer (as Gay Perry) in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He's a competent and professional private eye (or private dick?) who happens to be gay. He can even be sort of a tough guy when it matters. Sure, they have a little fun with his gayness - it's a comedy, after all (his ring tone is "I Will Survive", for Christ's sake) - but for the most part he plays the "straight man" to Robert Downey Jr's comic buffoon. They very easily could have made his character straight, with no significant change to the plot. But then we would have missed out on the classic line: "Don't quit your gay job!"

    So, why don't we see more movies like that? Because Hollywood is in the business of making money. It isn't an art show. The major studios won't run the risk of alienating 90% of their audience with a gay hero. And the independent gay filmmakers know what their audiences overwhelmingly want to see - stereotypes, the more blatant and burlesqued the better. Maybe when gay people finally get tired of drag shows we'll see somebody take a chance on a gay James Bond or Indiana Jones. But until that happens, you can bet they'll be sticking to the path of least resistance and playing to a ready-made audience.
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    Nov 14, 2014 5:38 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidOK, so here's some "legit" answers...

    On TV, Spartacus featured some gay gladiators - is that butch enough for ya? Yeah they were relatively minor characters, but they were not defined by their sexuality. It was more like, "Oh and by the way, these two alpha bull studs are fucking each other..."

    If you need a non-stereotypical gay lead character in a major motion picture, the best example that comes to mind is Val Kilmer (as Gay Perry) in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He's a competent and professional private eye (or private dick?) who happens to be gay. He can even be sort of a tough guy when it matters. Sure, they have a little fun with his gayness - it's a comedy, after all (his ring tone is "I Will Survive", for Christ's sake) - but for the most part he plays the "straight man" to Robert Downey Jr's comic buffoon. They very easily could have made his character straight, with no significant change to the plot. But then we would have missed out on the classic line: "Don't quit your gay job!"

    So, why don't we see more movies like that? Because Hollywood is in the business of making money. It isn't an art show. The major studios won't run the risk of alienating 90% of their audience with a gay hero. And the independent gay filmmakers know what their audiences overwhelmingly want to see - stereotypes, the more blatant and burlesqued the better. Maybe when gay people finally get tired of drag shows we'll see somebody take a chance on a gay James Bond or Indiana Jones. But until that happens, you can bet they'll be sticking to the path of least resistance and playing to a ready-made audience.


    +1, Bravo
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    Nov 14, 2014 8:14 AM GMT
    bro4bro saidOK, so here's some "legit" answers...

    On TV, Spartacus featured some gay gladiators - is that butch enough for ya? Yeah they were relatively minor characters, but they were not defined by their sexuality. It was more like, "Oh and by the way, these two alpha bull studs are fucking each other..."

    If you need a non-stereotypical gay lead character in a major motion picture, the best example that comes to mind is Val Kilmer (as Gay Perry) in Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. He's a competent and professional private eye (or private dick?) who happens to be gay. He can even be sort of a tough guy when it matters. Sure, they have a little fun with his gayness - it's a comedy, after all (his ring tone is "I Will Survive", for Christ's sake) - but for the most part he plays the "straight man" to Robert Downey Jr's comic buffoon. They very easily could have made his character straight, with no significant change to the plot. But then we would have missed out on the classic line: "Don't quit your gay job!"

    So, why don't we see more movies like that? Because Hollywood is in the business of making money. It isn't an art show. The major studios won't run the risk of alienating 90% of their audience with a gay hero. And the independent gay filmmakers know what their audiences overwhelmingly want to see - stereotypes, the more blatant and burlesqued the better. Maybe when gay people finally get tired of drag shows we'll see somebody take a chance on a gay James Bond or Indiana Jones. But until that happens, you can bet they'll be sticking to the path of least resistance and playing to a ready-made audience.


    and that's exactly my point icon_biggrin.gif