Michigan's REPUBLICAN Governor Rick Snyder encouraged the REPUBLICAN state legislature to add LGBT protections to the state's Civil Rights Act by end of year.

  • metta

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    Nov 12, 2014 7:04 PM GMT
    Republican Governor Asks Republican Legislature To Pass LGBT Protections By The End Of The Year

    Michigan's Republican Governor Rick Snyder encouraged the Republican state legislature to add LGBT protections to the state's Civil Rights Act before the end of the year.


    "What seems to have motivated Governor Snyder is not the makeup of the legislature, but his cronies in the business world - the ones to whom he gave a tax cut paid for by raising property taxes on retirees. The Michigan Competitive Workforce Coalition, whose members include AT&T, Google and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, have all publicly supported amending Elliott-Larsen, and have been lobbying lawmakers behind the scenes - including Governor Snyder. That was the Democrats strategy all along, and it seems to have worked."


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/republican_governor_asks_legislature_to_pass_lgbt_protections_by_the_end_of_the_year
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    Nov 12, 2014 11:37 PM GMT
    God forbid that a GOPer should do ANYTHING remotely benefiting "the gay 'community'" w/o it being second-guessed and analyzed ad infinitum. Me, I'll take it on face value as another nail in the coffin of gay leftists who won't give the GOP its due. Let's see some analysis of that - and then follow the money, from our pockets to HRC's coffers and thence to the DNC.
  • tazzari

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    Nov 13, 2014 12:25 AM GMT
    The last paragraph indicates less a change of hear than a shrinking wallet. Nonetheless, even the GOP is slowly realizing that it has lost the culture battles and will loose everything else if it doesn't listen to actual people.
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    Nov 13, 2014 1:19 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]MGINSD said "give the GOP its due,[/quote]

    When it comes to issues of LGBT EQUALITY could you tell us what "due" you feel is owed to the GOP?
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    Nov 13, 2014 1:38 AM GMT
    Determinate said[quote][cite]MGINSD said "give the GOP its due,


    When it comes to issues of LGBT EQUALITY could you tell us what "due" you feel is owed to the GOP?[/quote]

    As an entity, the GOP in recent decades has not done very well where civil rights are concerned. It is done especially poorly regarding fair treatment for LGBT persons. However, there have always been a few people in the GOP who have supported equality for LGBT persons, so one should not assume that membership in the GOP always means lack of support for LGBT equality.
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    Nov 13, 2014 1:54 AM GMT
    http://www.mlive.com/lansing-news/index.ssf/2014/11/michigan_gay_rights_gop_bill_w.html
    LANSING, MI — Republican state Rep. Frank Foster is preparing to introduce a gay rights bill in the Michigan House, and he’s prepared to “have most everyone not like what I’m doing.”

    The long-awaited legislation would add sexual orientation protections to Michigan’s Elliott-Larsen Civil Rights Act, which prohibits discrimination in the workplace, housing market and places of public accommodation.

    But the bill does not include “gender identity and expression” language for transgender residents, as sought by a coalition of large employers and LGBT rights groups pushing for legislative action by the end of the year....

    ...Michigan is one of 29 states without LGBT protections, a fact that the Michigan Competitive Workforce Coalition argues makes it harder for the state and its employers to attract top talent...

    ...“Removing gender identity and expression protections from non-discrimination legislation is not a compromise--it is an abandonment of our own community,” Stacey Long Simmons of the National LGBTQ Task Force said in a statement.

    Critics say any gay rights update to Elliott-Larsen could jeopardize religious freedom for business owners who may not want to offer or participate in a service that runs counter to their beliefs.

    House Speaker Jase Bolger, R-Marshall, has previously said he is exploring the possibility of pairing an Elliott-Larsen amendment with a Michigan version of the “Religious Freedom Restoration Act.”
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    Nov 13, 2014 2:00 AM GMT
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/politics/the-gop-s-gay-rights-reboot-20140713
    July 13, 2014 Inside the offices of Republican gay-rights groups, a strategy is forming to convince party leaders to strip opposition to gay marriage from the GOP platform.

    The target, operatives say, is to see party leaders drop their support for a gay-marriage ban in time for the Republican National Convention in summer 2016.

    It's a long shot, but Republican gay-rights lobbyists think they can build on the momentum provided by courts nationwide and the belief that, philosophically, the GOP's social conservatives are fighting a battle that puts them well out of step with the majority of the country, and that could demographically doom national aspirations.
  • roadbikeRob

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    Nov 13, 2014 2:02 AM GMT
    [quote][cite]metta8 said[/cite]Republican Governor Asks Republican Legislature To Pass LGBT Protections By The End Of The Year

    Michigan's Republican Governor Rick Snyder encouraged the Republican state legislature to add LGBT protections to the state's Civil Rights Act before the end of the year.


    "What seems to have motivated Governor Snyder is not the makeup of the legislature, but his cronies in the business world - the ones to whom he gave a tax cut paid for by raising property taxes on retirees. The Michigan Competitive Workforce Coalition, whose members include AT&T, Google and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, have all publicly supported amending Elliott-Larsen, and have been lobbying lawmakers behind the scenes - including Governor Snyder. That was the Democrats strategy all along, and it seems to have worked."


    http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/republican_governor_asks_legislature_to_pass_lgbt_protections_by_the_end_of_the_year[/quo You cannot give the democrats full credit on this one. Governor Rick Snyder always impressed me as an independent, moderate republican who did the right thing by being cautious with social issues during his first term to build up a solid record with the people of Michigan. His evolving support of equality for gays is a way of telling all the NARROW MINDED BIBLE THUMPING SCREWBALLS to go fuck themselves. Rick Snyder has done a very good job governing Michigan and his tough love policies have restored the state's fiscal health which has helped put it on the road to recovery. Now hopefully the legislature will follow his recommendations for including protections for gays in the state's civil rights laws. The GOP definitely needs more leaders like Rick Snyder in their ranks. Not all republicans are racist and homophobic like they are unfairly perceived on here by the ultra leftist lunatics.
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    Nov 13, 2014 2:47 AM GMT
    roadbikeRob said
    Not all republicans are racist and homophobic like they are unfairly perceived on here by the ultra leftist lunatics.

    I don't think all Republicans are perceived as racist and homophobic (and misogynist and xenophobic), just the vast majority of them. Because they are.
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    Nov 13, 2014 10:37 AM GMT
    ", there have always been a few people in the GOP who have supported equality for LGBT persons"


    May God bless their timid souls. They never disturbed the bigots who overwhelmed their party.
  • 24hourguy

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    Nov 13, 2014 1:54 PM GMT
    One isolated incident of doing the right thing is hardly enough to undo 30+years of asshole-behavior, let alone any kind of "proof" that suddenly republicans don't hate gay people

    I'm sure there's a profit motive behind it
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    Nov 13, 2014 2:28 PM GMT
    MGINSD saidGod forbid that a GOPer should do ANYTHING remotely benefiting "the gay 'community'" w/o it being second-guessed and analyzed ad infinitum. Me, I'll take it on face value as another nail in the coffin of gay leftists who won't give the GOP its due. Let's see some analysis of that - and then follow the money, from our pockets to HRC's coffers and thence to the DNC.

    Do you ever stop with the bitterness? Ever?
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    Nov 13, 2014 3:44 PM GMT
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    MGINSD saidGod forbid that a GOPer should do ANYTHING remotely benefiting "the gay 'community'" w/o it being second-guessed and analyzed ad infinitum. Me, I'll take it on face value as another nail in the coffin of gay leftists who won't give the GOP its due. Let's see some analysis of that - and then follow the money, from our pockets to HRC's coffers and thence to the DNC.

    Do you ever stop with the bitterness? Ever?


    What you call "bitterness," and others "hate," I call telling it like it is. If you don't like it, fine, disagree, but to call it either of the above simply reveals misperception on your part, if not dissembling.
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    Nov 13, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
    Determinate said", there have always been a few people in the GOP who have supported equality for LGBT persons"


    May God bless their timid souls. They never disturbed the bigots who overwhelmed their party.


    There's nothing "timid" about going into the belly of the beast, as other gay GOPers and I have for decades, to confront those who are anti-gay - "homophobic" is such an inaccurate, mindless word - with the reality of what it is to be a gay GOPer, how we share the same essential GOP values short of the religious right ones, and how, by our example, gays are hardly the wierded-out perverts that they perceive from viewing the counterproductive antics of our more radical "co-sexualists."
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    Nov 13, 2014 5:48 PM GMT
    MGINSD said
    Determinate said", there have always been a few people in the GOP who have supported equality for LGBT persons"


    May God bless their timid souls. They never disturbed the bigots who overwhelmed their party.


    There's nothing "timid" about going into the belly of the beast, as other gay GOPers and I have for decades, to confront those who are anti-gay - "homophobic" is such an inaccurate, mindless word - with the reality of what it is to be a gay GOPer, how we share the same essential GOP values short of the religious right ones, and how, by our example, gays are hardly the wierded-out perverts that they perceive from viewing the counterproductive antics of our more radical "co-sexualists."

    Yeah, because gays are so perverted for wanting to get married.icon_rolleyes.gif
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    Nov 13, 2014 5:56 PM GMT
    It's a bit too late for the GOP to ever claim leadership on this issue. The best they can do is beg our forgiveness and accept their role as abdicators.
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    Nov 13, 2014 6:56 PM GMT
    theantijock saidIt's a bit too late for the GOP to ever claim leadership on this issue. The best they can do is beg our forgiveness and accept their role as abdicators.


    Just who is the "our" to whom you refer? I can't recall any gay leadership candidates on the last Election Day. And, "we're a rainbow," remember?
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    Nov 13, 2014 7:10 PM GMT
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    MGINSD said
    Determinate said", there have always been a few people in the GOP who have supported equality for LGBT persons"


    May God bless their timid souls. They never disturbed the bigots who overwhelmed their party.


    There's nothing "timid" about going into the belly of the beast, as other gay GOPers and I have for decades, to confront those who are anti-gay - "homophobic" is such an inaccurate, mindless word - with the reality of what it is to be a gay GOPer, how we share the same essential GOP values short of the religious right ones, and how, by our example, gays are hardly the wierded-out perverts that they perceive from viewing the counterproductive antics of our more radical "co-sexualists."

    Yeah, because gays are so perverted for wanting to get married.icon_rolleyes.gif


    So, again, other than misreading and twisting others' posts to suit your agenda, exactly what have YOU done to advance gay rights???
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    Nov 13, 2014 8:06 PM GMT
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    theantijock saidIt's a bit too late for the GOP to ever claim leadership on this issue. The best they can do is beg our forgiveness and accept their role as abdicators.


    Just who is the "our" to whom you refer? I can't recall any gay leadership candidates on the last Election Day. And, "we're a rainbow," remember?


    "Our" = not the GOP. Duh!

    You might want to wait until after a few generations have past before you crank up your revisionism machinery. Oh, wait, but by then you'll be dead too. Okay, you might as well give your shit your best shot now but I don't think it will take. Good luck with that.

    And, shit is not a color in the rainbow, and don't you forget it.

    Your seeking kudos from our true colors which have been shining through all along is cute, like a puppy dog seeking favor after it's peed all over the carpet, but not so easy to get that stink out.

    The man of La Mancha fighting his own party blowhards windmills will have to find self satisfaction from within. We have no biscuit for you. We won our Gay Rights for us and for you. You get to come along for that ride but, frankly, we don't give a flying fuck about you anymore.

    FYI: "we" = not the GOP

    FFYI (further for your info) GOP = Gobs Of Poop
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    Nov 16, 2014 5:35 AM GMT
    MGINSD said
    HottJoe said
    MGINSD said
    Determinate said", there have always been a few people in the GOP who have supported equality for LGBT persons"


    May God bless their timid souls. They never disturbed the bigots who overwhelmed their party.


    There's nothing "timid" about going into the belly of the beast, as other gay GOPers and I have for decades, to confront those who are anti-gay - "homophobic" is such an inaccurate, mindless word - with the reality of what it is to be a gay GOPer, how we share the same essential GOP values short of the religious right ones, and how, by our example, gays are hardly the wierded-out perverts that they perceive from viewing the counterproductive antics of our more radical "co-sexualists."

    Yeah, because gays are so perverted for wanting to get married.icon_rolleyes.gif


    So, again, other than misreading and twisting others' posts to suit your agenda, exactly what have YOU done to advance gay rights???
    What has CuckooJoe from Minneapolis done to advance gay rightsicon_question.gif Answer: just his usual playing the race card and spewing out his usual extreme leftist propaganda along with being a blind sycophant to the democratic party.