Why gay guys are fit

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    Nov 21, 2014 7:26 AM GMT
    So I remember watching a clip on YouTube recently where a gay guy explains why gay guys want to be fit. He says that it's because we understand what an attractive body is and we try to replicate it or something a long the lines of that.

    It pissed me off because I have never once gone to the gym because being gay has suddenly enlightened me as to what a great body is.

    I am just curious to all the gym junkies out there as to why you go to the gym. I do it because I want to be able to date attractive muscular men and in order to do that I need to have put the same time and commitment into improving myself as they have.

    And on the other end of the scale guys who don't go to the gym, why don't you and do you think it's a big deal in gay culture?
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    Nov 21, 2014 7:33 AM GMT
    Because gay men are like women. They are obsessed with the way they look. They want to find prince charming with their abs. Sad truth is, most never find what they are looking for no matter how fit they are which explains why so many are single.
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    Nov 21, 2014 8:44 AM GMT
    You already answered your questions:

    I do it because I want to be able to date attractive muscular men and in order to do that I need to have put the same time and commitment into improving myself as they have.

    Even those who don't go to the gym lust after well built guys, but when they are faced with rejection they complain how everyone is superficial. Most of the time it's some rejected fat guy.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Nov 21, 2014 8:51 AM GMT
    kxd7 saidBecause gay men are like women. They are obsessed with the way they look. They want to find prince charming with their abs. Sad truth is, most never find what they are looking for no matter how fit they are which explains why so many are single.


    I don't think this statement is true at all. If all you have is a great body, it won't keep a guy for long. A good body is the icing on he cake, but the cake is what you look for, the quality inside it. Handsome face doesn't hurt either!
  • Bowyn_Aerrow

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    Nov 21, 2014 1:23 PM GMT
    shawnyshawn3 said

    And on the other end of the scale guys who don't go to the gym, why don't you and do you think it's a big deal in gay culture?


    I don't go to a gym. I work out by mowing, blowing, trimming and all of this taking care of 2 acres of lawn and garden I do for a living.

    I'm technically underweight, 6'1" at 140 pounds.

    I think its to big of a deal for gay culture, because it leads to people saying things and believing things like this:

    "I do it because I want to be able to date attractive muscular men and in order to do that I need to have put the same time and commitment into improving myself as they have."

    Do yourself a favor, go dig up some 1970's gay porn and ask yourself why is it that we as a 'culture' have moved so far away from that standard of 'hotness' to the modern shaved, muscle bloated bodies of modern porn stars.


    Clue: Our porn has changed and thus changed us.

    The switch from 1970's lean, hairy, mustached 'normal Joe' to waxed, hairless, muscle bound 'stud' was started in the 1980's right after HIV/SIDS broke into the scene. The move was because of the fallcy that HIV had a look, and that if you looked healthy - super healthy you were healthy.

    By the time porn companies figured out that no that wasn't the case, they had already warped the minds of gay men to expect muscle, hairless bodies.

    Things have gotten progressively worse, and porn from both straight and gay venues and had a huge impact on sexuality in this century.

    http://theblot.com/gay-porn-warping-gay-minds-7722609

    Makes for a good read. A good start if you really want to know why it is that muscles are so 'attractive' and why so many gay men are pining for a muscle stud over looking to 'normal' guys or their own peers.




  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 21, 2014 2:14 PM GMT
    For me it really is about a whole host of things.. being the best man I can in terms of health and wellness, taking responsibility and being a good role model to friends and family. I like being healthy, like looking and feeling great. It is a small investment of time and I totally am into the process

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  • 5100s

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    Nov 21, 2014 2:48 PM GMT
    __morphic__ saidYou already answered your questions:

    I do it because I want to be able to date attractive muscular men and in order to do that I need to have put the same time and commitment into improving myself as they have.

    Even those who don't go to the gym lust after well built guys, but when they are faced with rejection they complain how everyone is superficial. Most of the time it's some rejected fat guy.


    This topic came up about a month or so ago. The above tells the entire story for me and I suspect a lot of other men.

    And it worked for me. For a guy who was just not bad looking at best lifting weights enabled me to connect with some very handsome and muscular men, who by the way tended to be very nice.

    Now that I'm 59, of course, it's much more difficult but I had my day and now it's time for others.
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    Nov 21, 2014 2:50 PM GMT
    Because there is this huge agenda in the gay community about being fit and sexy. Fitness, I believe, is more than a physical statement: it's a personality statement, too. I mean, when I see a fit guy I can assume that he likes to take care of himself, and I'm attracted to that because I would want my BF/whomever to be healthy. Plus, it looks kind of awkward when you're the fit guy and your BF is skinny lol. The media is definitely pushing the whole buff, masculine agenda, and people, especially in my generation, are so engrossed in it, so it's no surprise that it's a huge fetish and turn on for most guys. Most people that are famous were at some point very fit in their lives, and most porn stars/models are in great shape, so add up what I've said and you can understand why people (not only gay men) enjoy a great physique...
  • BTBruce

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    Nov 21, 2014 3:11 PM GMT
    Interesting angle on the gay porn impact mentioned above.

    For me, what got me working out was being in a bar one night (years ago) and seeing 2 totally hot, lean muscled, shirtless guys dirty dancing. I figured if I was ever going to "get" some of that for myself, I'd better do my best to assimilate.

    I definitely began working out to gain the approval of others but, along the way it has also been a great way to meditate, spend time with myself and clear my head of stress, etc. It's now more for myself than others.
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    Nov 21, 2014 3:22 PM GMT
    Most of the gay guys I have met in my life are not fit. They may go to the gym, or play a sport, but they are not fit.

    Sure, the population of fit gay guys is probably enough to make a sizable minority. Even out of those guys, I would guess that the motivation for most of them is insecurity and self-esteem issues. Those who have a genuine interest in health, sports, etc. probably make up an even smaller minority.

    Of course, that's all anecdotal evidence and could mean nothing, but when someone says something about how most gay guys are fit I tend to roll my eyes. By the way, it sounds like the video you watched was by Davey Wavey. icon_rolleyes.gif

    As for me, initially my motivation was appearance based. But I found that I started making the most progress when I stopped obsessing about the specifics, like weight, body fat percentage, how much I could lift, etc. Now I focus on how I feel in regards to my mood, energy and flexibility. Those are much better ways of measuring progress.

    Plus, it's so much more rewarding to train for strength than for size.

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    Nov 21, 2014 3:25 PM GMT
    Damn I feel like an oddball. I never began fitness with the intention of getting hot guys. I got into fitness because I wanted to keep up in martial arts, and I stay motivated even further because I want to do parkour . I currently suck at it but one day I'll be a pro
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    Nov 21, 2014 3:32 PM GMT
    I workout to be strong and healthy. The looks are a side benefit. But they are more visual proof to myself of my hard work.
    One of the reasons why I love crossfit is because the point is to be functionally strong and able to do muscle ups. Not to be the next cover of men's fitness.
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    Nov 21, 2014 3:46 PM GMT
    Some gay guys are fit because they want to be.

    Some gay guys aren't fit because they're too lazy, too physically impaired to workout, or they're just more attracted to larger/squishier bodies. The latter is very rare, and the vocal former are the ones who bitch about superficiality.
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    Nov 21, 2014 3:51 PM GMT
    Wyndahoi saidI workout to be strong and healthy. The looks are a side benefit. But they are more visual proof to myself of my hard work.
    One of the reasons why I love crossfit is because the point is to be functionally strong and able to do muscle ups. Not to be the next cover of men's fitness.
    I agree on the magazine cover but I want to be looked at by other men and women and by myself in the mirror as a body that could be on the cover of a magazine like that! icon_redface.gif

    paulflexes saidSome gay guys are fit because they want to be.
    Some gay guys aren't fit because they're too lazy, too physically impaired to workout, or they're just more attracted to larger/squishier bodies and want one for themselves. The latter is very rare, and the vocal former are the ones who bitch about superficiality.
    Fixed! icon_biggrin.gif
    My point is it's not just gay guys; though it's pretty natural that gay/bi men appreciate the male body with a higher frequency within the population than non-gay/bi-men.
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    Nov 21, 2014 3:58 PM GMT
    kxd7 saidBecause gay men are like women. They are obsessed with the way they look. They want to find prince charming with their abs. Sad truth is, most never find what they are looking for no matter how fit they are which explains why so many are single.



    You're a hideous creature both inside and out. What could you possibly know about sex and relationships?
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    Nov 21, 2014 4:02 PM GMT
    kxd7 saidBecause gay men are like women. They are obsessed with the way they look. They want to find prince charming with their abs. Sad truth is, most never find what they are looking for no matter how fit they are which explains why so many are single.


    No.

    You are like a woman

    Fleshy, puffy, bitchy and constantly bleeding.

    You should leave fatboy
  • wesv

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    Nov 21, 2014 4:27 PM GMT
    Gay men want to attract men. Men are sex driven and are more into looks.
  • Destinharbor

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    Nov 21, 2014 4:42 PM GMT
    It's many things. First, mainstream media noticed that women actually like sexy men. The Marky Mark Times Square phenomenon. Beefcake became a staple of advertising. Then movies. Tom Cruise "playing with the boys." Arnold brought bodybuilding into the mainstream but mainly by putting out damn good movies. Gay guys were naturally pleased with that and as with women, started to try to look like what they saw in magazines and movies. Then we started noticing how good it felt to be healthy and lean and liked looking fit, defined and muscular. It's all good. And it's not just gay guys. Though the obsession with the male form in straight guys is kind of curious.
  • Destinharbor

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    Nov 21, 2014 5:26 PM GMT
    Ya, it has increased with media attention but it isn't necessarily a bad thing as you suggest. Why is putting some effort into looking good a bad thing? There are some jerks who think the way you describe but they are in the minority and they would have been jerks about something else if it wasn't looks. Usually they're just stupid and trying to find something to make themselves distinctive. Though some guys are just natural born assholes. Gay and straight.
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    Nov 21, 2014 5:48 PM GMT
    shawnyshawn3 saidSo I remember watching a clip on YouTube recently where a gay guy explains why gay guys want to be fit. He says that it's because we understand what an attractive body is and we try to replicate it or something a long the lines of that.

    It pissed me off because I have never once gone to the gym because being gay has suddenly enlightened me as to what a great body is.

    I am just curious to all the gym junkies out there as to why you go to the gym. I do it because I want to be able to date attractive muscular men and in order to do that I need to have put the same time and commitment into improving myself as they have.

    And on the other end of the scale guys who don't go to the gym, why don't you and do you think it's a big deal in gay culture?


    You and the YouTube guy are basically saying the same thing. You go to the gym because you want to date hot people. The whole time and dedication thing is a bull shit way to feel less vain.

    I go to the gym to be healthier and to look like many of the men I looked up to as a kid.
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    Nov 21, 2014 5:50 PM GMT
    MikemikeMike said
    kxd7 saidBecause gay men are like women. They are obsessed with the way they look. They want to find prince charming with their abs. Sad truth is, most never find what they are looking for no matter how fit they are which explains why so many are single.


    I don't think this statement is true at all. If all you have is a great body, it won't keep a guy for long. A good body is the icing on he cake, but the cake is what you look for, the quality inside it. Handsome face doesn't hurt either!


    It seems many gay men just want the icing. The substance of the cake is a vestigial limb.
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    Nov 21, 2014 5:52 PM GMT
    For thousands of years, people became attracted to one another when they met, taking in a person's body, mind, character, and personality all at once. Then things like grindr came along and changed that, allowing us real access only into how a person looks, and thereby making that the primary determinant for whether one would ever meet another.

    This is one reason why gay men on average seem more fit than everyone else. I think the other is more primal. Men are on average attracted more to physical beauty, and women to personal qualities. When men are judging men and those men are the ones judging back, the importance of physical attractiveness naturally increases.

    So, OP, I think that that youtube video is wrong, and the reason you expressed is a clearer prism into the phenomenon you describe.

    *Interesting post above on gay porn as well, just thought I'd note that as another interesting element to all this*
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    Nov 21, 2014 6:13 PM GMT
    KJSharp saidFor thousands of years, people became attracted to one another when they met, taking in a person's body, mind, character, and personality all at once. Then things like grindr came along and changed that, allowing us real access only into how a person looks, and thereby making that the primary determinant for whether one would ever meet another.

    This is one reason why gay men on average seem more fit than everyone else. I think the other is more primal. Men are on average attracted more to physical beauty, and women to personal qualities. When men are judging men and those men are the ones judging back, the importance of physical attractiveness naturally increases.

    So, OP, I think that that youtube video is wrong, and the reason you expressed is a clearer prism into the phenomenon you describe.

    *Interesting post above on gay porn as well, just thought I'd note that as another interesting element to all this*


    I disagree that grindr is what changed things. I started to go to gay bars in Chicago in the summer of 1977 and and it was all about looks and body. Men weren't trying to go home with other men for their minds, characters, or personalities.

    And I don't think we did it because we were shallow or insecure. We did it because it was so much fun to fool around with a handsome, muscular guy. Now that I'm older and that part of my life has receded into the past for the most part, I'm quite content.

    But I agree that men seem innately more connected to physical beauty. We're probably just hard-wired that way from when our monkey group split off from the other mammals.

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    Nov 21, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    I can honestly say, the overriding reason I stay fit is to stay healthy.
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    Nov 21, 2014 6:58 PM GMT
    this would explain, happily, gays rebel..., fit? maybe, hairless, hell no.. icon_razz.gif



    enter the hipster


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    enter the bear


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