Investing on the Stock Exchange

  • bushman

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    Nov 21, 2014 10:41 AM GMT
    Hi
  • tj85016

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    Nov 21, 2014 1:34 PM GMT
    just buy the S&P500, the Fed runs the entire mess anyway - other than a few companies, it's a rigged game

    you always have to consider FX rates when investing overseas

    don't be surprised at a 2008 redux
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    Nov 21, 2014 4:50 PM GMT
    I work in the securities markets here in Chicago as an advisor. I don't give out recommendations or advice on these non-compliant message boards. But if you want to have a serious, objective discussion on things here in the US markets, feel free to contact me with a personal email to my profile here for another way to contact you. I'm a pretty good and vast source of knowledge.

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    P.S. I love Australia, can't wait to build my second vacation home down there. Been working this year on putting in my application for permanent residency visa down there. Just need to come up with the extra $7000.
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    Nov 21, 2014 6:17 PM GMT
    I would check out www.fool.com. They have a lot of message boards where people engage in all sorts of discussions regarding investing. I've made some great buys following the advice on there that makes sense. There's also an American radio show called "Money Talk" that you can probably find online ... the host seems to have a very sound approach to investing (e.g., no-load index funds).
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    Nov 21, 2014 7:19 PM GMT
    I just sold my Australian index stock. It has been underperforming compared to the S&P 500 for 2 years. There is no logic to the stock market . It's all perception, check for instance Tesla or Amazon . Amazon has made less money in its lifetime than Apple makes in one quarter. It's PE is 743!
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    Nov 21, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
    Like tj85016 said, FX is a big consideration when investing cross border, unless you are already earning income in the other country. How are the US and Aussie dollars going to trade in the future? Who knows - there have been big changes in the past.

    Also - foreign taxes if you are looking for dividends. A 5% dividend subject to a 20% tax is really only a 4% dividend, unless there is a favorable tax treaty. Something you should investigate before buying foreign stocks.

    The US economy is beginning to boom, but different sectors are doing differently. Europe is in a recession - it has to recover at some point - but who knows when. Could be next year, or it could be 5 years from now. Japan is a mystery - huge changes in direction from one week to another. China has some profitable companies - like Alibaba - (which is legally based in some Carribean island now), but there is no real law or regulation in China - so none of their accounting can be trusted.

    PM me if you want to talk.
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    Nov 21, 2014 8:59 PM GMT
    A great way to start is to decide whether you are a growth, income, momentum or value investor. For example, I am a growth investor who looks for stocks with a consistently rising EPS and, usually, price. I use sector rotation and stock screeners to find the right stocks for me and I avoid small oil or biotech companies. I also use funds to follow macro trends.

    Once you have decided what type of investor you want to be you have your cues for further reading e.g. A value investor would benefit from reading The Intelligent Investor.
  • vhotti26

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    Nov 21, 2014 10:20 PM GMT
    tj85016 saidjust buy the S&P500, the Fed runs the entire mess anyway - other than a few companies, it's a rigged game


    I have managed to outperform the S&P 500 despite its strong performance consistently in the past 6 months since I opened my portfolio.
  • rip12

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    Nov 22, 2014 1:32 AM GMT
    now thats an interesting question - im assuming u can buy u.s. issues off the asx or u have to buy them directly from the nyse etc.?

    and how does the currency fluctuation affect your purchases? if u have to buy off the u.s. exchanges then you have to purchase in usd correct? then you have the cost of conversion from aud to usd which i would imagine could get pricey?

    i would imagine your better bet would be to invest in funds on the asx that represent a segment of the u.s. market? thats how its done in this country i believe?
  • Apparition

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    Nov 22, 2014 2:00 AM GMT
    you cant go wrong investing in who is going to profit from the demise of the boomers.
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    Nov 22, 2014 4:53 AM GMT
    Stock exchange is a suckers bet. Buy real estate. The Chinese have been scooping up properties all over the US. They know the Chinese government is going to fall some day soon. They're making plans.. coming to the US for maternity tourism, and buying investment properties. I'm sure you're noticing the same thing happening in Australia.
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    Nov 22, 2014 6:45 AM GMT
    xrichx saidStock exchange is a suckers bet. Buy real estate. The Chinese have been scooping up properties all over the US. They know the Chinese government is going to fall some day soon. They're making plans.. coming to the US for maternity tourism, and buying investment properties. I'm sure you're noticing the same thing happening in Australia.

    Unless one is very rich, it's a hell of a lot easier to diversify a stock portfolio than real estate. $1 million might buy a single piece of real estate; it could buy p0ositions in 100 securities, such that one would have little risk.
  • Webster666

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    Nov 22, 2014 7:57 AM GMT
    dobromir saidI work in the securities markets here in Chicago as an advisor. I don't give out recommendations or advice on these non-compliant message boards. But if you want to have a serious, objective discussion on things here in the US markets, feel free to contact me with a personal email to my profile here for another way to contact you. I'm a pretty good and vast source of knowledge.

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    P.S. I love Australia, can't wait to build my second vacation home down there. Been working this year on putting in my application for permanent residency visa down there. Just need to come up with the extra $7000.



    I'm wondering why someone who was successful as a securities market advisor would need to locate the rather small sum of $7000.
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    Nov 22, 2014 12:26 PM GMT
    I put several thousand in a multi-asset growth fund (mostly equities) for a few years and made diddly squat from it. I'll stick to the bank. Even though the interest rates are poor, I sleep much better now.
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    Nov 22, 2014 2:50 PM GMT
    Let us know if you've checked out www.morningstar.com.

    This is an interesting thread to me because I have no idea what you mean that the U.S. market is a different ball game than the Australian market. Please explain.

    It's partly my own shortcoming because while I know how the Chinese market of 2004-2008 was a different ball game than the U.S. market, I would have thought the Australian market was as mature as the U.S. market.

    Sure, that's just one way markets differ. I'm not exactly sure why you'd say Australia is much different from say New York or London.

    Where I'm coming from is that mutual fund managers, 2004-2008, were more likely to be cautious about China than Australia.

    As for not knowing markets, I'm still mad that I didn't understand that a silver fund would not follow the silver market. What a wasted opportunity being informed why the silver market was appreciating but not only did the silver fund not lag, it flatlined.

    So, maybe that's a risk that may be on your radar: you have expectations about the Australian market that do not necessarily carry over to the U.S. market.
  • davfit

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    Nov 22, 2014 3:18 PM GMT
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    Nov 22, 2014 5:38 PM GMT
    Ex_Mil8 saidI put several thousand in a multi-asset growth fund (mostly equities) for a few years and made diddly squat from it. I'll stick to the bank. Even though the interest rates are poor, I sleep much better now.

    In the US, we have banks' preferred stocks - pay dividends (around 6+%) even when the common stock gets no dividend payment. And, because of recent regulatory changes, the banks now have to maintain a much higher minimum rate of capital - so the preferred stocks are not going away any time soon.
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    Nov 22, 2014 6:30 PM GMT
    Webster666 said
    dobromir saidI work in the securities markets here in Chicago as an advisor. I don't give out recommendations or advice on these non-compliant message boards. But if you want to have a serious, objective discussion on things here in the US markets, feel free to contact me with a personal email to my profile here for another way to contact you. I'm a pretty good and vast source of knowledge.

    Louis icon_biggrin.gif

    P.S. I love Australia, can't wait to build my second vacation home down there. Been working this year on putting in my application for permanent residency visa down there. Just need to come up with the extra $7000.



    I'm wondering why someone who was successful as a securities market advisor would need to locate the rather small sum of $7000.


    Because some of us actually budget our money that prudently tight and place funding priorities on other things first instead of pretending that money grows on trees and spending other people's money like they do in California, and particularly San Fransisco. Some of us actually watch our budgets instead of taxing and spending what others work for.
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    Nov 22, 2014 7:08 PM GMT
    Oh my! Such vitriol ^ from a handsome guy. The market is a bit bloated. I would wait until after the new year.
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    Nov 22, 2014 7:21 PM GMT
    The market is currently over- valued.

    There too many amateurs looking for a quick fortune.

    A long deceased relative of Mine once said there is no great secret to fortune making. Buy low and sell dear.

    She was woman who made a killing back in the days when women were supposed concentrate on needlepoint .

    China is poised to rival the United States as a World Economic Power.

    The level of corruption is horrendous however.

    Female babies are regularly killed because Males have more status and parents are discouraged from having more than one child.

    There are enormous profits to be made in Russia.

    But You must be in bed with horrifically dangerous people.

    Decide how much You really need to live a life of comfort and act accordingly.




    I married a couple rich Husbands.

    Selling My Soul to the Devil would have a better option...

  • HndsmKansan

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    Nov 22, 2014 7:24 PM GMT
    I'm a financial advisor, so I trade stocks on all exchanges on a regular basis. My focus isn't on stock trading per se, but rather on long term investments. I find it makes life easier, my phone ring less and I sleep better.

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    Nov 22, 2014 8:51 PM GMT
    Cash saidThe market is currently over- valued.

    There too many amateurs looking for a quick fortune.

    A long deceased relative of Mine once said there is no great secret to fortune making. Buy low and sell dear.

    She was woman who made a killing back in the days when women were supposed concentrate on needlepoint .

    China is poised to rival the United States as a World Economic Power.

    The level of corruption is horrendous however.

    Female babies are regularly killed because Males have more status and parents are discouraged from having more than one child.

    There are enormous profits to be made in Russia.

    But You must be in bed with horrifically dangerous people.

    Decide how much You really need to live a life of comfort and act accordingly.




    I married a couple rich Husbands.

    Selling My Soul to the Devil would have a better option...


    I'll admit to being confused - I thought from other posts that you were quite content with the choices you made in your past love life. Selling your soul to the devil would have been a better option than marrying rich husbands? Or - selling the soul would be a better option than getting into bed (figuratively) with Russians and Chinese tycoons??
  • rip12

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    Nov 22, 2014 10:49 PM GMT
    got to thinking about this more and had forgotten that in the usa we can buy adr's (american depository receipts) for companies located outside the usa

    if i recall correctly they trade exactly the same as stocks, pay dividends, etc. - there is a small tax that is due (on dividends) in the country where the company is domiciled at the end of the year but it is negligible

    does australia have the same thing or an equivalent?

    alot of people prefer investing in mutual funds - thats fine if you dont want to spend alot of time and are willing to take what you get - there are thousands of them but only a few that are worth owning

    i have some interest in this so am willing to spend time doing research, talking to others who know, etc. and havent done too badly investing in individual issues and certain derivatives

    know however its a long term proposition - fortunes rarely are made overnight - if u do it methodically over a long period of time it is not only possible, but likely, youll find yourself in a much better position than others just at the time you need it
  • thadjock

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    Nov 23, 2014 6:16 AM GMT
    Webster666 said


    I'm wondering why someone who was successful as a securities market advisor would need to locate the rather small sum of $7000.


    yeah i was wondering the same thing, "second vacation home" was the red flag for me.


  • bushman

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    Nov 23, 2014 9:20 AM GMT
    You know some of the replies have been good,I recon.

    However the penny doesn't always drop.
    Its only when u sit down for a beer (infront off the camp fire) and think about different replies it happens!

    Yeah well, thanks for the response guys