Prostate Cancer 2: The Rehabilitation

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    Oct 01, 2007 7:19 PM GMT
    I still have 42 more days of pills to take in my cancer treatment, but I am getting rambuncious and wanna get up and get moving again. I guess the testosterone-blocking therapy is wearing off and my testosterone is coming back. YAY!

    So on this thread, I intend to chronicle my rehabilitation progress. Again, my point is to show you guys what it is like to have prostate cancer... beyond the "oh, that's curable." GET CHECKED! I know guys in a very bad way with PC in their early 40s ...and guys who have had it in their 20s. So it is never too early to GET CHECKED!

    I have joined my local Golds Gym and hired a personal trainer there. I am looking forward to getting the guidance, motivation, and accountability that I will need to restore my body.

    The testosterone-blocking therapy makes the body lose both muscle and bone mass. But you gain weight... guess what kind? ... icon_lol.gif

    My GP has restricted my worksout to prohibit heavy lifting... not sure what that means, but I will find out from the personal trainer.

    My cancer dr just called and wasn't sure why my heavy lifting was restricted. He thinks my bones should be fine. Ok, whatever, I didnt intend to run in there and go wild pumping iron anyway. My body is a mess after all this therapy over more than a year. It is gonna take sometime to get back to normal.

    Ok...I start on Thursday. I will be back then.
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    Oct 05, 2007 7:16 PM GMT
    Continued success on yr road to recover. Don't be in a giant rush and hurt yrself. Glad y'r urging everyone to get checked. I get a PSA every year. Luckily our newspaper hee has a free drive every June and I jump to it.
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    Oct 05, 2007 8:10 PM GMT

    Try the Strong & Lean workout here. Low weights, but it royally kicks butt!

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    Oct 06, 2007 4:16 PM GMT
    Thank you, gentlemen, for your encouragement.

    I am sure all the information that I need is right here on Realjock. But I know that I can not sufficiently discipline myself at this time to stick to a workout plan or diet. I need the personal trainer to monitor me and hold me accountable. I have been thru so much I am a wreck both mentally and physically.

    I had my first session with my personal trainer. It was basically an indoctrination session on "Medicine bad, holistic good." Ok, fine. As long as he doesn't drag this indoctrination out too long. Let's get to the eating and working out.

    After his lecture, I went out in the gym and worked out on a few machines that worked basic combinations of muscles. I only used 30 lbs (10 lbs for the military press) and today, two days later, I am sore all over. OMG! I am a wreck.

    Oh well, a journey starts with a single step. I will go to the gym again today and take my second step to fitness and good health.

    Upwards and Onwards! ... icon_biggrin.gif
  • MikemikeMike

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    Oct 06, 2007 7:17 PM GMT

    def keep us posted!! Gald to see you on your way to what I hope is a very speedy recovery!!

    Thanks for bringing this to everyone's attension. Prostate and colon cancer seem to be something men don't like to talk about, but should. Get tested for both annually!!

    Peace good luck-Caslon cyber hug! icon_smile.gif

    be well!

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    Oct 07, 2007 4:12 AM GMT
    Thank you, Mike3. I appreciate the encouragement and cyber hug (that made me smile).

    I worked out for 2 hours today. Slowly, low weights. But boy when I was finished, I felt like I had a low grade fever...and I have felt that way this whole evening. I think it is just the body being over stimulated by the workout. I have sat on my butt so long that the bod has forgotten what it's like to move. Also, I am sure my muscles and bones have lost a lot of the cellular organelles, like mitochrondia, to make the energy and process the physical stimulationn of the exercise.

    I was hoping the workout would tire me out so I wouldnt need sleeping pills. I can see that aint's 12:15 AM.
  • Alan95823

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    Oct 07, 2007 4:20 PM GMT
    Caslon, I applaud your spirit and your attitude in dealing with your cancer. It sounds like they're doing hormone therapy with you, and having watched 2 guys at work go through it I have a pretty good idea how that can mess with your emotions, which makes your attitude even more remarkable.

    I wish more guys were conscious of the possible results of this kind of cancer... they might get checked more often. In some cases, the docs will perform a prostatectomy and an orchiectomy. After I found out what those were, I made getting my PSA test done annually a priority, in spite of the fact that my doc thinks I'm having it checked 10 years early.

    Best of luck in your recovery, and big hugs in your direction.

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    Oct 07, 2007 10:34 PM GMT, that's not too early.

    There is a fellow in my cancer support group who is 41. He just had his prostate, seminal vesicles, and I dont know what else taken out. And there was cancer beyond everywhere they cut.

    He is just beginning hormone therapy and thinks he is starting to have hot flashes.
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    Oct 11, 2007 12:07 AM GMT
    Ok. Today I had my first "workout" session with my personal trainer.

    First, thing he did was test my balance. Evidently, one needs to have his stabilizer muscles built and coordinated before you start pumping iron much.

    So I had to do a bunch of balancing exercises, like stand on one leg, and some exercises in the mats that are hard to describe.

    Bottom line: my legs are weak at balancing. my hips and torso are pretty good, but the muscles need strengthening.

    I was pretty jittery in holding these exercises for a minute or more. He said that is ok, because the jitter is the nerves learning how work to maintain balance.

    He said in a month I will be steady as a rock.

    Tomorrow I meet with him about nutrition.
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    Oct 12, 2007 1:31 AM GMT
    Ok, today I filled how health and diet questionnaires for the PT. He started me on the nutrition spiel. OMG...nothing in my house is worth eating. It is all poison or has been poisoned. Only organic foods have any nutrients and no bad things that mess up the body's metabolism.

    Ok...I will try this. Fortunately, there is an organic market right on the way home from the gym. "MOM"...My Organic Market.

    Oh...and I have to take caster oil for the Omega 3.

    And he said, that if I want to do it, I can go thru some kind of "cleansing." ... icon_eek.gif

    I got a couple of books to read: The Diet Cure, and The 100 Year Lie.

    Diet Cure: The 8-Step Program to Rebalance Your Body Chemistry and End Food Cravings, Weight Problems Mood Swings-Now

    These are the kind of problems the book talks about:
    ..Depleted Brain Chemistry-the real story behind "emotional" eating. [Ok I have read this chapter. Your moods, motivation, sense of well-being, and cravings to eat are controlled by simple neurotransmitters made from 4 amino acids. Provide those amino acids and you can control your urges and how you feel]
    ..Malnutrition Due ot Low-Calorie Dieting - the numboer one cause of overeating, weight gain, bulimia and anorexia
    ..Unstable Blood Sugar - carbohydrate addiciton, hypoglycemia, diabetes, and adrenal exhaustion
    ..Unrecognized Low Thyroid Function - tired, cold, and overweight
    ..Food Addictions and Allergice Reactions - the three culprits
    ..Hormonal Havoc - PMS, menopause, and the food-mood connection
    ..Yeast Overgrowth - a hidden cause of food cravings
    ..Fatty Acid Deficiency - why you can't stop eating chips, cheese, and fries

    The Hundred-Year Lie: How to Protect Yourself from the Chemicals That Are Destroying Your Health


    Ah another new adventure....never a dull moment! icon_biggrin.gif
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    Oct 13, 2007 3:03 AM GMT
    ok, I am eating the organic cereal I am allowed....only a tad this side of bark and twigs. ... icon_eek.gif ... i hope my teeth hold out gnawing on this stuff ... icon_lol.gif ... honestly....i am going to have jaw muscles to put T. Rex to shame ... icon_rolleyes.gif

    I can see that I am gonna be ready to kill somebody for a chocolate eclair in about a week
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    Oct 13, 2007 5:22 AM GMT
    Ok, I am taking Cod Liver Oil. And I immediately felt the effects of it. I noticed that my hands got warm within 20 - 30 minutes.

    "Fish oil stimulates blood circulation and increases the breakdown of fibrin, a compound involved in clot and scar formation."

    Omega 3 Fatty Acid
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    Oct 14, 2007 2:34 PM GMT
    L-tyrosine and L-phenylalanine for Dopamine/norepinephrine, mental focus

    GABA...calmness and relaxation

    L-phenylalanine/D-phenylalanine...endorphin... pyschologic and physical pain relief, pleasure, loving feeling

    ...serotonin....emotional stability, self-confidence

    Melatonin for sleep
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    Oct 15, 2007 11:26 PM GMT
    Worked out again today. Still building the stabilizer muscles. The new exercise today was standing straight up with arms straight out in front of me, and then pulling on an elastic rope. First to one side, turning around and doing it to the other side.

    I nearly fainted. I can not believe how out of shape I am. How much this is taking out of me. I could hardly breathe and my heart was pumping like crazy. And I am still working on just standing up!

    After the whole workout, I had to sit for half an hour to catch my breath and let my heart and muscles calm down.

    This personal trainer is fantastic!
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    Oct 16, 2007 12:50 AM GMT
    after having a day and a half of terrible depression...just feeling like crap and taking the day off from work sick....I took the GABA his evening...and I feel just great!!!! GABA is for calmness and relaxation.

    WOOHOO!!! ... icon_biggrin.gif ... icon_biggrin.gif ... icon_biggrin.gif ... icon_biggrin.gif ... icon_biggrin.gif
  • GeorgeNJ

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    Oct 16, 2007 2:46 AM GMT
    In my experience, when I developed an injury or when I was going thru "recovery" after a bout of kidney stones (Ouch!) last year, it took me a while to return to the place I was at before. Critical point: Progress in the 1st few weeks is slow, but after 3 or 4 weeks, the rate of progress gets faster. The key is consistency, and a regular routine.

    I'd be very interested in knowing how the amino acid treatment works for you.

    Hang in there.

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    Nov 03, 2007 9:52 PM GMT
    Ok...I just juiced my first drink...

    2 cored apples
    3 carrots
    1 celery stalk

    didnt taste bad.

    lets see...oh, quite nutrious! ... icon_biggrin.gif

    apples: vit. C good

    vitamin K excellent
    vitamin C excellent
    potassium very good
    folate very good
    dietary fiber very good
    molybdenum very good
    manganese very good
    vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) very good
    calcium good
    vitamin B1 (thiamin) good
    magnesium good
    vitamin A good
    tryptophan good
    phosphorus good
    vitamin B2 (riboflavin) good
    iron good

    vitamin A excellent
    vitamin K very good
    vitamin C very good
    dietary fiber very good
    potassium very good
    vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) good
    manganese good
    molybdenum good
    vitamin B1 (thiamin) good
    vitamin B3 (niacin) good
    phosphorus good
    magnesium good
    folate good
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    Nov 12, 2007 4:50 AM GMT
    Hope all is going well. Dude I can't believe y're 56! You go!
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    Nov 27, 2007 10:32 PM GMT
    Caslon, I came across this story of one man's alternative medicine battle against prostate cancer, and I thought it would interest you:
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    Nov 28, 2007 1:51 AM GMT
    thanks Paradox....this is interesting ...we even had the same Gleason score. ... icon_biggrin.gif