Do you have a friend who intentionally spreads HIV?

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    Nov 24, 2014 5:49 PM GMT
    I recently learned that a friend of mine that I have had for over three years does not use protection with all of his partners. He is open about his HIV status and I know he takes medication. He is a very bitter person, which is the main reason I never liked him in a romantic way, and he has this whole "well no one told me" bullshit outlook on the situation.

    IF you found out a friend of yours does this would you address them about it. I just left it alone with no real response or judgements.
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    Nov 24, 2014 5:56 PM GMT
    Do you have a friend who intentionally spreads HIV?

    No, I do not. I would not make such a person my friend, or if I found out about his behavior later I would "unfriend" him.
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    Nov 24, 2014 5:59 PM GMT
    That's plain horrid.
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    Nov 24, 2014 6:04 PM GMT
    These people are called "Gift Givers": they are HIV+ gay men that feel pleasure by infecting others with the virus. Gift Givers usually trick ignorant guys into thinking "HIV is not a big problem anymore", and some might even rape their victims to infect them.
    There is also another group called "Bug Chasers": they're healthy gay men that want to get infected.
    I'm waiting for the 2 RJ's local Gift Givers to show up and enlighten us with their ways and experiences.
  • muscleboundfe...

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    Nov 24, 2014 6:45 PM GMT
    As long as he is open to his partners about it I don't see a problem. If he is not telling them and going bareback we couldn't be friends.
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    Nov 24, 2014 7:16 PM GMT
    Art_Deco saidDo you have a friend who intentionally spreads HIV?

    No, I do not. I would not make such a person my friend, or if I found out about his behavior later I would "unfriend" him.


    THIS!
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    Nov 24, 2014 7:21 PM GMT
    This is a very charming group: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers
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    Nov 24, 2014 7:34 PM GMT
    If he doesn't disclose his status, it isn't just about being negligent, this is intentional action that can result in "significant loss", loss of health and wellness.

    If proven, prosecution should be the result.

    If he discloses his status, but still barebacks with his partners, I find that disturbing for sure.
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    Nov 24, 2014 7:51 PM GMT
    Apparently they're also into something called "STD Breeding"

    WARNING! This is fuckin sick and disgusting, dont open this if you're a sensitive soul, but I post the link so you know the kind of people out there:
    http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/photos/b0b4e3aa-88a5-4d42-9f8d-032bfcf47417

    The world is full of gift givers and STD breeding so take care of yourselves cause no one else will.
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    Nov 24, 2014 8:07 PM GMT
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    David3K saidThis is a very charming group: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers
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    i didn't know you are into that, not surprised though

    You need to take sarcasm 101.
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    Nov 24, 2014 11:44 PM GMT
    HndsmKansan saidIf he doesn't disclose his status, it isn't just about being negligent, this is intentional action that can result in "significant loss", loss of health and wellness.

    If proven, prosecution should be the result.

    If he discloses his status, but still barebacks with his partners, I find that disturbing for sure.


    And that is the bullshit of the whole situation. He is quick to blame the world for his problems! I know that if he faced legal prosecution for his actions he would take no responsibility for what he has done.
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    Nov 24, 2014 11:45 PM GMT
    muscleboundfem saidAs long as he is open to his partners about it I don't see a problem. If he is not telling them and going bareback we couldn't be friends.


    Nope. It is a clear case of don't ask don't tell.
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    Nov 24, 2014 11:46 PM GMT
    David3K saidThese people are called "Gift Givers": they are HIV+ gay men that feel pleasure by infecting others with the virus. Gift Givers usually trick ignorant guys into thinking "HIV is not a big problem anymore", and some might even rape their victims to infect them.
    There is also another group called "Bug Chasers": they're healthy gay men that want to get infected.
    I'm waiting for RJ's 2 local Gift Givers to show up and enlighten us with their ways and experiences.



    I've heard of the bug chasing situation. No he is just not telling his partners if they don't ask. He said verbatim, "I have a case full of condoms and many of them are unused!"
  • tj85016

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    Nov 25, 2014 12:35 AM GMT
    so you associate with this scum bag? why? I'd publically out the dude's activities

    I'd rat him out in a heartbeat
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    Nov 25, 2014 2:34 AM GMT
    I really wonder how much of the so-called gift giver stories online are true. I'll bet many, if not most are trolls or fundamentalists trying to spread hate and fear.
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    Nov 25, 2014 2:38 AM GMT
    I know enough HIV-poz guys who treat non-disclosure as a white lie (because they blame society for forcing them to do this just to get laid), to know that gift-giving is more of a selfish rather than a predatory behavior. It's not the "villains out there" but the "attitudes among us"
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    Nov 25, 2014 2:42 AM GMT
    David3K saidApparently they're also into something called "STD Breeding"

    WARNING! This is fuckin sick and disgusting, dont open this if you're a sensitive soul, but I post the link so you know the kind of people out there:
    http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/photos/b0b4e3aa-88a5-4d42-9f8d-032bfcf47417

    The world is full of gift givers and STD breeding so take care of yourselves cause no one else will.



    OH
    MY
    GOD

    Just when I think I've seen it all. The comments are more disturbing than the pics to be honest. Like this one: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/thread/23b747c4-8fa8-4dc1-832d-b529f6ce6e14
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    Nov 25, 2014 2:43 AM GMT
    muscleboundfem saidAs long as he is open to his partners about it I don't see a problem.



    Seriously??? So you'd be okay with someone giving someone a deadly disease as long as the other person knew? Dude, you need some fucking morals.
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    Nov 25, 2014 2:58 AM GMT
    David3K saidApparently they're also into something called "STD Breeding"

    WARNING! This is fuckin sick and disgusting, dont open this if you're a sensitive soul, but I post the link so you know the kind of people out there:
    http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/photos/b0b4e3aa-88a5-4d42-9f8d-032bfcf47417

    The world is full of gift givers and STD breeding so take care of yourselves cause no one else will.


    O.M.G. I should have heeded the warning. icon_eek.gificon_eek.gif I need eye wash.
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    Nov 25, 2014 3:00 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    OH
    MY
    GOD

    Just when I think I've seen it all. The comments are more disturbing than the pics to be honest. Like this one: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/thread/23b747c4-8fa8-4dc1-832d-b529f6ce6e14


    I seriously hope those comments were just jokes. Otherwise, they are seriously sick in the head. icon_confused.gif
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    Nov 25, 2014 3:01 AM GMT
    hentailover saidI know enough HIV-poz guys who treat non-disclosure as a white lie (because they blame society for forcing them to do this just to get laid), to know that gift-giving is more of a selfish rather than a predatory behavior. It's not the "villains out there" but the "attitudes among us"

    They blame society? They should blame themselves for not using a condom when having sex. Sadly barebacking is very common among gay men and I've noticed after they get infected they ussually are one of this

    - they advocate protection and try to warn others about what happened to them
    - become very bitter towards society and hate neg people or can't accept some just prefer not to have sex with them
    - become gift givers
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    Nov 25, 2014 3:15 AM GMT
    polfsky said
    Scruffypup said
    OH
    MY
    GOD

    Just when I think I've seen it all. The comments are more disturbing than the pics to be honest. Like this one: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/thread/23b747c4-8fa8-4dc1-832d-b529f6ce6e14


    I seriously hope those comments were just jokes. Otherwise, they are seriously sick in the head. icon_confused.gif

    These are no jokes, I clicked in various profiles and they're real. They do the poz/neg thing, pedophilia and more. These people should be exterminated from earth.

    charming guy http://people.tribe.net/castrat-syphilitic
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    Nov 25, 2014 3:20 AM GMT
    Why is that guy's asshole bleeding? Ewww
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    Nov 25, 2014 4:19 AM GMT
    David3K said
    polfsky said
    Scruffypup said
    OH
    MY
    GOD

    Just when I think I've seen it all. The comments are more disturbing than the pics to be honest. Like this one: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/thread/23b747c4-8fa8-4dc1-832d-b529f6ce6e14


    I seriously hope those comments were just jokes. Otherwise, they are seriously sick in the head. icon_confused.gif

    These are no jokes, I clicked in various profiles and they're real. They do the poz/neg thing, pedophilia and more. These people should be exterminated from earth.

    charming guy http://people.tribe.net/castrat-syphilitic



    I don't understand. At all. The guy says he's impotent because of syphilis and acts like he's happy about it. How can that be enjoyable? And how can having puss dripping out of your ass be pleasurable? This shit has to be very painful. No?
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    Nov 25, 2014 4:41 AM GMT
    Scruffypup said
    David3K said
    polfsky said
    Scruffypup said
    OH
    MY
    GOD

    Just when I think I've seen it all. The comments are more disturbing than the pics to be honest. Like this one: http://tribes.tribe.net/giftgivers/thread/23b747c4-8fa8-4dc1-832d-b529f6ce6e14


    I seriously hope those comments were just jokes. Otherwise, they are seriously sick in the head. icon_confused.gif

    These are no jokes, I clicked in various profiles and they're real. They do the poz/neg thing, pedophilia and more. These people should be exterminated from earth.

    charming guy http://people.tribe.net/castrat-syphilitic



    I don't understand. At all. The guy says he's impotent because of syphilis and acts like he's happy about it. How can that be enjoyable? And how can having puss dripping out of your ass be pleasurable? This shit has to be very painful. No?


    Like I know! I assume they're masochistics by nature they enjoy being in pain. I just cant believe the amount of truly perverted people out there, this tribe.com shit is worst site ive ever visited. You jump from one "group" to another and they get worse and worse.