Thinking about going vegetarian.

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    Nov 24, 2014 6:00 PM GMT
    Hey there,
    So I have recently been seriously considering changing my diet to vegetarian.

    I am curious at the cost (budget for food), and if this will affect my run time and recovery afterwards.

    What are your thoughts are on this, and what tips you might have for me? I am a distance runner, and eat plenty of lean protein.

    Odd question. Is protein supplements (powder etc.) available in vegetarian form?

    I also have trouble keeping my weight up, due to running often, and am curious if a vegetarian diet will affect this.

    I've been doing lots of google research, but I would like to hear your thoughts on this. icon_smile.gif

    Thanks,
    Lorenzo
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    Nov 24, 2014 9:45 PM GMT
    Be careful with a lot of vegan protein powders; a lot of them taste like dirt. I can't tell you how many I've purchased only to realize I could not choke that stuff down. This is my favorite. It tastes good and works:

    https://livesuperfoods.com/vega-sport-performance-protein.html?gclid=CKCunYqblMICFQkGaQodmCwAxw
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    Nov 25, 2014 12:14 AM GMT
    I do a veggie diet every once in a while to clean out my system.

    As for sustained veggie-only, hell no. Nothing tastes better than dead muscle fiber with nice seasonings and heated to perfection.
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    Nov 25, 2014 2:11 PM GMT
    Becoming vegetarian is one of the best/easiest ways to radically reduce your carbon footprint. I can't bring myself to take the plunge but have been cutting back on meat a lot.
    Www.1st cookbooks.com is a great website for vegetarian recipes. It's my go to.
    You do have to work harder to get adequate protein but it's doable. Especially if you eat eggs and dairy.
    Incidentally I've never heard of a protein powder that isn't vegetarian. Whey is from milk right? I have a vegan one that is OK. It's made from cranberry and pea protein.
    Tofu can be good. Don't worry about the phyto estrogens. Unless you have liver failure your body will process them just fine. I used to dislike tofu till i leaned the trick of freezing it then squeezing the water out before marinating it. Seiten is good.
    Try and stay away from processed meat substitutes. Most of them are gross and are pretty bad for you besides. You can make your own veggie burgers that are pretty good.

    Good luck!
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    Nov 25, 2014 11:57 PM GMT
    I've been a vegetarian for 21 years. My fastest marathon was 2:58. (So far. icon_biggrin.gif)

    Seriously: I don't think it will decrease your speed or your endurance one bit. I'm 43 and I can still do ten miles without working too hard.
  • Ironman4U

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    Nov 26, 2014 10:42 PM GMT
    Lots of vegetarian and vegan runners out there, so as mentioned already, you'll be ok. Check out Scott Jurek's book, Eat & Run. He is one of the most decorated ultra endurance runners of all time and he did it on a vegetarian/vegan diet. Matt Frazier has an active website with lots of resources too - www.nomeatathlete.com. As far as protein powders, I like BioChem's 100% Vegan Protein - Vanilla flavor. It's 100% plant based, gluten-free, non-GMO and Soy Free. I have a scoop in a fruit smoothie every morning. I've tried some brown rice protein powder and did not like it at all. But think it would probably work in a base with a stir fry dish.
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    Nov 27, 2014 12:16 AM GMT
    Ironman4U saidAs far as protein powders, I like BioChem's 100% Vegan Protein - Vanilla flavor. It's 100% plant based, gluten-free, non-GMO and Soy Free. I have a scoop in a fruit smoothie every morning.



    Yes but what does it taste like?
  • metta

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    Nov 27, 2014 11:14 PM GMT
    I have been a vegetarian since 1990.

    Vegetarian food is generally cheaper than eating meat.

    Vegetarian protein: there are quite a few options. Whey is an easy source to get. (not vegan)


    14 Best Vegan and Vegetarian Protein Sources
    http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20718479,00.html



    http://greatist.com/health/complete-vegetarian-proteins

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    Nov 28, 2014 7:31 AM GMT
    anyone know if something like the BioChem Vegan Protein is available in 5-10 lb containers?

    Whey protein absorbs fast, how fast does the vegan protein absorb
  • metta

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    Nov 28, 2014 7:45 AM GMT
    pellaz saidanyone know if something like the BioChem Vegan Protein is available in 5-10 lb containers?

    Whey protein absorbs fast, how fast does the vegan protein absorb


    What a terrible name for a company that sells vegan products. But to answer your question, it does not look like that one is available in large quantities. Maybe you can buy it by the case: http://countrylifevitamins.com/store/100-vegan-protein-chocolate-flavor


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    https://www.google.com/shopping/product/4240253776868405303?q=BioChem%20Vegan%20Protein%20bulk&biw=1675&bih=835&sa=X&ei=Kyh4VIeNBYGAsQTrnYCQBQ&ved=0CEsQ8wIwAQ&prds=scoring:tp
  • neon4u

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    Nov 28, 2014 1:40 PM GMT
    I use a vegan protein mix a few times a week. It's called "Raw Protein" by Garden of Life. I like the taste. Now since it's from veggies sources don't expect the powder to dissolve in liquid as would whey protein. In other words, the taste is fine but the texture might not be what you're expecting having used whey powders. The plus with this stuff is, it doesn't turn to glue in your stomach and it has fiber which is a great thing.
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    Nov 28, 2014 3:38 PM GMT
    the Garden of Life "Raw Protein" product has rice.

    Current thinking the bad of rice is it absorbs retains the toxic chemicals from the soil.
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    Nov 28, 2014 8:11 PM GMT
    Supplements:
    Vitamin K
    Omega-3
    creatine

    Vitamin D (if you ever leave Utah or start avoiding the sun for some reason)

    You can get K and some omega-3 from dairy from grassfed animals. K is the reason dairy is healthy for bones and teeth (calcium is a component of bone - calcium is extremely high in cow milk, 4 times higher than human milk - milk is good for teeth and bone, especially if you are in danger of malnutrition - associations got mixed up).
  • budri7

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    Nov 28, 2014 8:44 PM GMT
    I am kind of as I eat fish, eggs and cheese but no meat. If you eat those 3 without meat you can vary beans and lentils in and will get plenty of protein. Please do it as you could save some chickens from KFC and cows from McD's. Love you
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    Jan 08, 2015 3:28 AM GMT
    Read "Eat and Run' from Scott Jurek (my ultra-running hero). He's a vegan and one of the most revered runners in the ultra community. His running story is incredibly inspiring and the book has lots of great vegan recipes. I enjoyed the book so much I bought a copy. If you want it, hit me up. I'd be happy to pass it along. Cheers!
  • JamesItaly

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    Jan 08, 2015 10:43 PM GMT
    I have never found a protein powder unsuitable for vegetarians. Only animal product used is milk so as long as you aren't thinking of vegan then you will have no problem. (Though there are plenty of vegan alternatives too).
    Cutting out the saturated fats and animal hormones from meat will be the best thing for you and am sure it will help improve your running time.
    Learn to cook a few dishes instead of relying too much on fake meat products and you'll have more benefits.
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    Jan 09, 2015 5:13 AM GMT
    pellaz saidCurrent thinking the bad of rice is it absorbs retains the toxic chemicals from the soil.

    Not just any rice, but brown rice. And not just any toxins but the heavy metal arsenic. The arsenic is held in the rice bran. Brown rice from Texas is the worst, from California is better, even better is from Asia.

    The current issue of Consumer Reports has an update. They first reported on it several months ago.
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    Jan 09, 2015 5:20 AM GMT
    budri7 saidI am kind of as I eat fish

    Fish is animal flesh so that means to me that you're not even kind of vegetarian. Back when I was vegan I had coworkers who thought vegetarians didn't eat red meat but ate chicken and fish; wtf?

    The OP needs to figure out if he wants to eat dairy products and eggs. Some people think that milk is bad for you. Then others say that's hogwash.

    While I was vegan I didn't feel any better or anything, but I wasn't running at that time. I did lose weight, which was my objective.

    That was several years ago. I don't eat much meat and never cook any hamburger, steaks or anything. I do throw in a chicken thigh when cooking brown rice. But I don't each much meat overall.

    Looking back I think eating vegetarian didn't make me more healthy, but I did like how it made it easier to loose weight (let's face it, it's hard to eat lots of boring and insipid vegetarian dishes).

    Beans and rice are a complete amino acid mix, brown rice and lentils are still a favorite meal of mine.
  • metta

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    Jan 09, 2015 6:44 AM GMT
    A fish eating vegetarian is a pescatarian

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
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    Jan 09, 2015 7:19 AM GMT
    I'm experimenting with making bran bread with boiled and rinsed wheat bran. Next up is a loaf made with quinoa flour. It was $8+ a pound at the health food store. Ouch.

    Tonight I made a loaf with oat flour; 200 grams oat flour, 100 grams rolled oats, 200 grams wheat bran boiled and rinsed with the water pressed out. Boiling and rinsing it gets rid of its bitterness.
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    Jan 09, 2015 8:37 PM GMT
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    metta8 saidA fish eating vegetarian is a pescatarianhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
    That would be me. icon_redface.gif

    That's like having a special name for a "beef eating vegetarian."
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    Jan 13, 2015 1:49 PM GMT
    Lumpyoatmeal said
    MuchMoreThanMuscle said
    metta8 saidA fish eating vegetarian is a pescatarianhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism
    That would be me. icon_redface.gif

    That's like having a special name for a "beef eating vegetarian."


    We prefer the term carnivore. Though omnivore is more accurate.
  • MikemikeMike

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    Apr 04, 2015 6:28 AM GMT
    Facially vegetarians look older than their ageicon_exclaim.gif
    I don't eat too much but also don't ignore that I was born and grew canine teeth for a reasonicon_idea.gif
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    Apr 10, 2015 2:56 AM GMT
    I'm vegan and I feel like I recover faster. I use plant based Orgain,it's $30 for over 2.5lbs at Cos5co. Fruits and vegetables are pretty cheap,especially if you shop in season.
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    Apr 10, 2015 3:57 AM GMT
    MikemikeMike saidFacially vegetarians look older than their ageicon_exclaim.gif
    I don't eat too much but also don't ignore that I was born and grew canine teeth for a reasonicon_idea.gif


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    All of the animals above are vegetarian and they all have canines. While whales for example eat exclusively meat and yet do not have canines. I'm not promoting any type of diet but just pointing out the presence of canines does not mean you're meant to eat meat.